Liverpool FC Official Thread

Why would Spearing get sold?

Glen Damon wrote:

Danno wrote:To be honest our whole midfield needs a reshuffle, Gourcuff and Fernando in, Spearing out?

We certainly need a midfielder who is willing to play a risky pass. And I don't mean that in the Charlie Adam, 90 metre pass sense.

*Cough*Henderson and Gerrard*Cough*

Cam wrote:Why would Spearing get sold?

If we get another defensive midfielder.

Cadbury wrote:This soccernomics thing sounds like a bunch of shit.

It's designed to get the most out of your buck. The rules are fairly simple, and in theory work pretty well.

1. Sign players who are close to their prime (early 20s), but not in or past it (late 20s).

2. Don't sign over-priced players (someone forgot to tell them English players are over-priced)

3. Signing players with personal problems will usually mean getting them for cheap. Buy the player and spend money to help them deal with their problems, will usually result in a cheap bargain.

4. Don't sign players from "over-rated" nations such as Holland and Brazil. A slovenian talent will likely cost 2-4M, while a Brazilian will often exceed 20M after a good season.

5. Don't sign strikers, develop them, they are generally more expensive than other positions. This rule can be over-looked if the team is in need of filling the squad however.

6. Sell players before any prospective buyers are convinced the player is on the decline, also sell a player if he meets valuation estimates.

Edit:

7. Almost forgot. Don't buy players who perform well at tournaments. Their valuation goes up sharply and they may just have had a short burst of form.

I don't mind Adam playing solely due to his productivity in goals and assists, still don't think he's good enough to start every week mind.

6 has Meireles all over.

Jordo wrote:6 has Meireles all over.

And Fernando Torres

Jordo wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:We certainly need a midfielder who is willing to play a risky pass. And I don't mean that in the Charlie Adam, 90 metre pass sense.

*Cough*Henderson and Gerrard*Cough*

I should have added "able" to play that pass.

Henderson is currently the better option in central midfield rather than Gerrard, at least with Henderson he seems to play for the whole 90 minutes where as Gerrard tends to appear in short Roy of the rovers bursts then disappears for a while.

Laurencio wrote:

Mustangt125 wrote:So everybody can just shut the fuck up about it now

Alright. Who do you want brought in this summer? I read an article the other week where your owner John Henry put out a plan of challenging for a title within 2 years, and preferably winning it within 3. At the moment that is looking a tad unrealistic, but if they were to go on a bit of a spree in the summer... who knows. So who would you want?

Keep in mind that they follow a "soccernomics" trend though. Player must be in his early 20s, not be Brazilian or Dutch, preferably have some sort of problem with behaviour or similar, and can not have played well in the latest tournaments. You can overspend if it helps fill up the squad though.

I'm dead serious btw, I'm not having a go, that's genuinly the rules of soccernomics and moneyball, which your owners are quite big fans of.

Ideally, somebody like Hazard would be great. Would be great for the squad. What about the dude Merkel or something that plays opposite him on FIFA? He's good on fif

I don't know who I would want to buy exactly, you guys are exposed to much more info and more leagues, etc than I am. We need better, though. And this whole "buy english" thing can go in the shit-can.

Hoilett will be free, there's no reason not to get him. If we get him and he blows, then we sell him for a profit.

There's got to be some players from Spain or Germany we can get. What about that Muniain dude? Has he got Real written all over him already?

Looking back, I'm not sure how we didn't sign Hazard. The signs were all there. Basically.

I remember back in the Summer, when news came out we had organised a friendly with Valencia and everyone was like OMGS WE'RE SIGNING MATA!!!. Then a few weeks later we signed Downing, sad really.

I remember when we were highly linked with Eljero Elia. The rumours made it sound extremely believable.

French media reporting that Hazard has joined Spurs: http://www.francefootball.fr/#!/news...tottenham.html

Does this mean Bale's out?

If not Spurs have the league wrapped up next season with them two in the squad!

France Football are hardly the most reliable.

LFC_Grunners wrote:French media reporting that Hazard has joined Spurs: http://www.francefootball.fr/#!/news...tottenham.html

Does this mean Bale's out?

If not Spurs have the league wrapped up next season with them two in the squad!

Lennon and, less so, Van Der Vaart are more likely to be out, in my opinion.

Most likely Lennon out if anything.

Watch him flop. Of course he can hack it in France. England is a different story.

Why Lennon out? Who says Bale wants to stay? He's been heavily linked with some of the biggest clubs in Europe for a long time now, especially with Arry going I could see him on his way out soon.

Jord wrote:Watch him flop. Of course he can hack it in France. England is a different story.

Indeed if Joe Cole can do similar things in said country, perhaps Hazard isn't all he's cracked up to be.

Laurencio wrote:

Cadbury wrote:This soccernomics thing sounds like a bunch of shit.

It's designed to get the most out of your buck. The rules are fairly simple, and in theory work pretty well.

1. Sign players who are close to their prime (early 20s), but not in or past it (late 20s).

2. Don't sign over-priced players (someone forgot to tell them English players are over-priced)

3. Signing players with personal problems will usually mean getting them for cheap. Buy the player and spend money to help them deal with their problems, will usually result in a cheap bargain.

4. Don't sign players from "over-rated" nations such as Holland and Brazil. A slovenian talent will likely cost 2-4M, while a Brazilian will often exceed 20M after a good season.

5. Don't sign strikers, develop them, they are generally more expensive than other positions. This rule can be over-looked if the team is in need of filling the squad however.

6. Sell players before any prospective buyers are convinced the player is on the decline, also sell a player if he meets valuation estimates.

Edit:

7. Almost forgot. Don't buy players who perform well at tournaments. Their valuation goes up sharply and they may just have had a short burst of form.

3 is ridiculous, our dressing room will be uncontrollable.

Bellamy will sort them out.

Ibrahimovic?

John W. Henry ready to lift Liverpool’s standard after Luis Suárez furore
Rory Smith


Trying to enjoy a family vacation, John W. Henry watched the final, radioactive fallout from the Luis Suárez affair settle on Anfield from Fort Lauderdale, deep in America’s Sunshine State.

It is unlikely to have been a particularly restful holiday, such is the work that awaits him. Next week, Liverpool’s principal, principled owner will fly to Merseyside, where the storm clouds gather.

Contrary to a popular perception too easily guided by soap opera narrative, the arpeggio of apologies issued by Suárez, his club, and Kenny Dalglish, the manager, on Sunday afternoon was not orchestrated by Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool’s parent company.

There was no directive from Henry or his chairman, Tom Werner, that the Uruguayan’s failure to shake hands with Patrice Evra at Old Trafford was of such repugnant moral vacuity that contrition was compulsory. There was no kneejerk response to savage words in the New York Times, a former investor in FSG, and the Boston Globe, Henry’s local paper, demanding intervention in the closest thing the Barclays Premier League has to a pariah state.

Rather, Ian Ayre, Liverpool’s managing director, in consultation with Dalglish, established the direction the club would take and sought confirmation from his employers that they agreed with his blueprint. This was local self-determination in action. There was no American cultural imperialism.

That is not to accuse Henry of idleness, or absenteeism, a charge he and Werner have been desperate to avoid ever since replacing Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr on a rather happier October day, exactly a year before Suárez turned his spiteful tongue on Evra. That the 62-year-old will be in England within the next seven days, indeed, is evidence of how things have changed. FSG will fight for its investment.

Henry’s first job is likely to be mollifying Standard Chartered, the club’s prime, £20 million-a-season shirt sponsor, unsurprisingly unhappy to find its brand, its logo, suddenly associated rather too readily with a player charged with issuing racist abuse. There is no suggestion as yet that the bank, which boasts 1,700 branches worldwide and considerable reach in the Far East, is reassessing its involvement with the club.

Henry, though, knows that assuring them such toxicity will not be a feature of their association with Liverpool in the future will soothe troubled minds.

Although Henry will also meet Richard Scudamore, the chief executive of the Premier League, in an attempt to smooth relations with the English game’s hierarchy, it is telling that it is when the brand is imperilled that he acts. An editorial in Massachusetts costs nothing; fear rising in the Orient could be expensive indeed.

FSG, like Dalglish, has no intention of selling Suárez; anyone with the briefest knowledge of football would know that the game’s moral compass tends to point in whichever direction leads to success, that clubs do not routinely sell their best players simply to dampen an outcry, no matter how serious the offence. Henry has been long enough in sport to know that another controversy will be stirred, another hellion conjured soon enough to distract attention.

But he has also been aware, from the moment Evra first levelled his charge at Suárez, at how poisonous such an allegation might be. For the player, of course, and for the club. But most of all for the brand. Such corporate jargon is anathema to fans, no more so than those on the Kop whose traditions are pinned to their jackets and daubed on to flags. But that is what Liverpool, and all of their competitors, have become: brands that require consumers, brands that stand and fall by their sponsors.

If Henry’s investment is to work, and Liverpool are to compete once more, he needs a club he can sell worldwide. Ideally, he needs a star player.

It seemed before October that Suárez could be that cornerstone. Now that is in doubt. Player, club and brand have been damaged. It is Henry who must begin to arrest the decline, to begin the Herculean task of wiping the slate clean. There is work to be done.

Cadbury wrote:3 is ridiculous, our dressing room will be uncontrollable.

Players like Bellamy, Suarez, and Carroll all have their respective problems, yet there seems to be a good team spirit between them all.

Glen Damon wrote:

Cadbury wrote:3 is ridiculous, our dressing room will be uncontrollable.

Players like Bellamy, Suarez, and Carroll all have their respective problems, yet there seems to be a good team spirit between them all.

Downing too. Massive prick who needs to go in the summer.

He's done fuck all except get arrested.

atleaast your owners are decent human beings unlike everything/everyone else associated with the club

What's the crack with this Mbokani player we've been linked with? I think we should stay away from him, he has a brilliant record everywhere he's been besides Monaco and Wolfsburg...Can't hack it in the big leagues?

ViVaRooney wrote:atleaast your owners are decent human beings unlike everything/everyone else associated with the club

ViVaRooney wrote:atleaast your owners are decent human beings unlike everything/everyone else associated with the club

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