Would a winter break benefit the english game?

Lu❣s Suarez wrote:

Dan wrote:

Rotation.

Most clubs can't afford to have the depth to allow for rotation without seriously weakening their starting lineup.

BladeGunner wrote:It seems to happen consistently. Not to mention how players from the English Premier League tend to fail to perform in major International tournaments. Could be because of accumulated fatigue.

Laurencio wrote:I would rather get rid of the Carling Cup tbh. Now that's a useless competition.

Jordo wrote:

Laurencio wrote:I would rather get rid of the Carling Cup tbh. Now that's a useless competition.

Fuck that.

It's our only chance off getting in Europe.

Laurencio wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Fuck that.

It's our only chance off getting in Europe.

I'd rather it was changed into being a display for Premieship youngsters. Maximum 3 players above 23 in the squad or something. Would make it more competetive and more interesting, as well as reduce the strain on first team players.

Dan wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:It seems to happen consistently. Not to mention how players from the English Premier League tend to fail to perform in major International tournaments. Could be because of accumulated fatigue.

That is because they aren't good enough.

Dan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

I'd rather it was changed into being a display for Premieship youngsters. Maximum 3 players above 23 in the squad or something. Would make it more competetive and more interesting, as well as reduce the strain on first team players.

Nah, it's a chance of silverware for clubs. Look at the likes of Spurs, Birmingham that have won it. If you wanna play kids in it, play kids in it.

Barton wrote:

Dan wrote:

That is because they aren't good enough.

Yet most of these players play at the top level of European football?

Laurencio wrote:

Dan wrote:

Nah, it's a chance of silverware for clubs. Look at the likes of Spurs, Birmingham that have won it. If you wanna play kids in it, play kids in it.

When you know the other side is going to be playing their best players you are highly unlikely to play kids, unless your name is Arsene Wenger.

Dan wrote:

Barton wrote:

Yet most of these players play at the top level of European football?

In teams, made up of the best players around the world.

Dan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

When you know the other side is going to be playing their best players you are highly unlikely to play kids, unless your name is Arsene Wenger.

Isn't it a useless competition though?

Barton wrote:

Dan wrote:

In teams, made up of the best players around the world.

But as individuals the EPL has some of the best players in the world.

Dan wrote:

Barton wrote:

But as individuals the EPL has some of the best players in the world.

It does and they usually perform at the highest stage. Those in the England national side, don't because they are overrated.

Barton wrote:

Dan wrote:

It does and they usually perform at the highest stage. Those in the England national side, don't because they are overrated.

Never thought i'd see the day seeing one of you saying Steven Gerrard is overrated.

Laurencio wrote:

Dan wrote:

Isn't it a useless competition though?

Yes it is. But considering you can still win something from it, teams are motivated to go for it, and rightly so. I'm just saying it would be better for English football as a whole if there were some rules that demanded youngsters to play. Would reward decent youth-development systems.

Dan wrote:

Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Most clubs can't afford to have the depth to allow for rotation without seriously weakening their starting lineup.

Teams have coped perfectly fine for years with the schedule we play now. Those that get loads of injuries are unlucky, it happens.

Lu❣s Suarez wrote:

Dan wrote:

Teams have coped perfectly fine for years with the schedule we play now. Those that get loads of injuries are unlucky, it happens.

Unlucky? Unlucky is if one team happens to have an injury crises. That's not what is happening. ALOT OF TEAMS are having injury crises, and consistently throughout the years.

How do you explain the really high number of injuries in the EPL compared to other domestic leagues in Europe?

Dan wrote:

Lus Suarez wrote:Unlucky? Unlucky is if one team happens to have an injury crises. That's not what is happening. ALOT OF TEAMS are having injury crises, and consistently throughout the years.

How do you explain the really high number of injuries in the EPL compared to other domestic leagues in Europe?

Training methods. Training over here at most clubs is too intensive. Many foreign players and coaches have commented on this.

Dean wrote:Steven Gerrard does not play like the Englishmen. He's a bit special.

You don't get head hunted by Real Madrid (a number of years as well), Roma, Bayern Munich...if you ain't got technical ability. Best English player in the last 20 years, with considerable ease.

Lus Suarez wrote:

Dan wrote:

Training methods. Training over here at most clubs is too intensive. Many foreign players and coaches have commented on this.

So what? Are you saying that players are fatigued?

Dean wrote:Steven Gerrard does not play like the Englishmen. He's a bit special.

You don't get head hunted by Real Madrid (a number of years as well), Roma, Bayern Munich...if you ain't got technical ability. Best English player in the last 20 years, with considerable ease.