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Uruguay unites behind Luis Suárez after 'excessive, absurd' ban

• Football federation offers legal backing through embassy
• 'This leaves bad feeling' says national director of sport
Sid Lowe
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 21 December 2011 17.58 GMT

Luis Suárez played a major role in Uruguay's capture of the Copa América in July and the national football association stated 'its total solidarity and support' for their striker.

"Exaggerated, absurd and out of place." That was the verdict of Uruguay's national director of sport as Luis Suárez's eight-game ban became a matter of state. Players, coaches, media and the government have come out in support of the Liverpool striker, while the national football federation has offered legal backing through the Uruguayan embassy in London. The striker Sebastián Abreu insisted that Suárez has "3 million Uruguayans behind him" and the former international Richard Morales, who is black, insisted: "[Patrice] Evra should not play at being Padre Popelka." Father Ernesto Popelka is a revered former footballer, priest and psychologist.

"This [ban] leaves a bad feeling," said Ernesto Irureta, the national director of sport. "What is happening in Europe is a product of their [wider] problems, not of what happens between players – and one of those is racism. That reflects a lack of values in society. We have a country with [racial] differences but it is a long way from those in the Old Continent [Europe]. Suárez may act with words or gestures in certain moments but this ban is exaggerated, absurd and out of place."

Celso Otero, assistant to the Uruguay coach, Oscar Tabárez, described the ban as "excessive" and sought to reassure Suárez that his position with the national team "has not changed in the slightest". The captain, Diego Lugano, said: "I cannot believe it: this is a huge error that is being made. Obviously in England there is a problem with racism and they are trying to eradicate it, which is good, but this [ban] has no solid base. Luis is a victim." The national football association reiterated its "total solidarity and support" for Suárez.

A failure to allow for different cultural interpretations was at the heart of much of the criticism in a country where one newspaper ran with a huge front-page headline that simply said: "Irrational". Uruguayans do not see the use of "negro" or "negrito" to be offensive at all and Marcelo Tejera, who played for Southampton, bemoaned "a campaign to push [Suárez] out to another league".

"They [Uruguay and England] are different cultures. For us [what was said] is normal and it doesn't affect you," said Morales. "They're making a drama out of something that for us is entirely natural. But England is totally different. The only thing [Suárez] could have got wrong is not knowing that. And in any case, you have to be sure whether or not [Suárez] actually said it. Evra shouldn't play at being Father Popelka, because he's nothing like him."

Gustavo Poyet called the ban a "fiasco". Poyet drew parallels between this case and the incident at Stamford Bridge when Evra made accusations of racism against a Chelsea steward. "This is very worrying," he said. "It could happen to me or to anyone tomorrow. I could find myself in a defenceless position based on what just one person claims I have said. [After the Stamford Bridge incident] nothing was proven and no one believed [Evra]. I imagine he's happy now."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/21/uruguay-luis-suarez-racism?cat=football&type=article

Shit just got real. War?

Kenny's t-shirt

Wasn't it the club, and not Evra, who pointed out the incident at Stamford Bridge?

Shits really going down now We've got a whole country backing us now. Who knew it would get this serious?

Danny wrote:Wasn't it the club, and not Evra, who pointed out the incident at Stamford Bridge?

I think that's not really a big part of this thing tbh, and yet you lot keep trotting it out

Jord wrote:Shits really going down now We've got a whole country backing us now. Who knew it would get this serious?

Doesn't matter in the slightest I'm afraid. Nothing they say will have any impact on the case.

Cam wrote:

Danny wrote:Wasn't it the club, and not Evra, who pointed out the incident at Stamford Bridge?

I think that's not really a big part of this thing tbh, and yet you lot keep trotting it out

Not really. Just what I've read from Poyet talking about it, he seems to have quite the focus on Evra, and what he's saying there I'm pretty sure isn't right.

Laurencio wrote:

Jord wrote:Shits really going down now We've got a whole country backing us now. Who knew it would get this serious?

Doesn't matter in the slightest I'm afraid. Nothing they say will have any impact on the case.

How could you possibly know that?

Laurencio wrote:

Jord wrote:Shits really going down now We've got a whole country backing us now. Who knew it would get this serious?

Doesn't matter in the slightest I'm afraid. Nothing they say will have any impact on the case.

You won't be saying that when Uruguay launch their nukes.

Smokescreen for Cavani to join next month.

Jord wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Doesn't matter in the slightest I'm afraid. Nothing they say will have any impact on the case.

How could you possibly know that?

Because in any justice system evidence of, and from, the actual event trumps opinion of people not even relevant to the case at hand. Nothing they say can disprove that Suarez made a racist remark, as they weren't there.

Their support only matters morally and maybe to Suarez. It has no bearing on the case what so ever.

Cam wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Doesn't matter in the slightest I'm afraid. Nothing they say will have any impact on the case.

You won't be saying that when Uruguay launch their nukes.

Uruguay doesn't have nuclear weapons

Scouser_Dave wrote:

WTF is worng with this club, disgusting

YEAH! lets support racism because we dont want our best striker (sorry, only good player) to miss matches

Laurencio wrote:

Jord wrote:How could you possibly know that?

Because in any justice system evidence of, and from, the actual event trumps opinion of people not even relevant to the case at hand. Nothing they say can disprove that Suarez made a racist remark, as they weren't there.

Their support only matters morally and maybe to Suarez. It has no bearing on the case what so ever.

Cam wrote:

You won't be saying that when Uruguay launch their nukes.

Uruguay doesn't have nuclear weapons

That's what you think, they've got them stored for a situation just like this.

ViVaRooney wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

WTF is worng with this club, disgusting

YEAH! lets support racism because we dont want our best striker (sorry, only good player) to miss matches

Go away brains, and we are Liverpool football club "We do what we want"

Cam wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Because in any justice system evidence of, and from, the actual event trumps opinion of people not even relevant to the case at hand. Nothing they say can disprove that Suarez made a racist remark, as they weren't there.

Their support only matters morally and maybe to Suarez. It has no bearing on the case what so ever.




Uruguay doesn't have nuclear weapons

That's what you think, they've got them stored for a situation just like this.

Exactly, a matter of such of magnitude would demand such a response. The FA will regret this. England will regret this.

Absolutely full of proudness at the way the club has conducted itself. From the statement from the club, to the statement from Dalglish, to the statement from our players. Exceptional. It ain't unprofessional at all. It's inspiring and it's fighting for something you believe in. Most clubs would probably just just go and crawl in a corner and accept it, but we're showing why we're a special club. The level of support Suarez has received from the club is phenomenal. Couldn't be more proud. And it basically tells me, they're 100% convinced he's innocent.

It's also great to see Uruguay coming out as a country and backing Suarez. And also his fellow Uruguayian team-mates.

End of the day, all this waiting for evidence is nonsense. There ain't no fucking evidence. The only evidence there could of been...would of been personal testimonies (from players or officials) that didn't happen. Or video evidence (the video shows fuck all either). What else can their be? There's only Suarez and Evra who know what went on in that conversation. So I can't wait to see what the supposed 'evidence' is.

The whole thing smacks of desperation from the FA, they're looking to make an example and they'll try and do as they can. They're wrong.

Maxi playing behind Suarez

Quotes from Suarez's Agent saying that they are going to appeal.

are there any wigan fans? all i hear is liverpool ones

Oh my

oh my god.
fuck this.

Out of curiosity who would you lot prefer in charge? Benitez or Kenny?

rafa but that might have to do with the game currently.

Downing.

Where's the Championship Downing picture?

Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish