Liverpool FC Official Thread

Jordo wrote:

Dan wrote:

Then punch James McCarthy to the ground before shouting 'See, I am not racist!'

McCarthy ain't black.

Exactly.

Scott wrote:Liverpool's statement was professional, well read and inspiring. They showed that Liverpool are not to be messed with, and that Suarez has the full backing of the club.

I like how you keep comparing it to the Terry/Chelsea incident. You do realise that both incidents were completely different?

With all due respect, Liverpool's statement was fine for about two paragraphs. Then it went into a semi-rant.

"We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation." (Professional)

"We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken."
(Unprofessional)

"The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background." (Professional)

"LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations." (Unprofessional)

"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist." (Professoinal)

"Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team." (A bit like putting Blatter next to a black man on FIFA's website)

"He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends." (same as above)

"It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised."
(Professional)

"It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name."
(Unprofessional)

"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
(Absurdly unprofessional)



Now let's just put the professional parts together into one statement, and let's see if it comprimises Liverpool's position on Suarez:

Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.

We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

So what do we have now. We have: We do not agree, we are against racism. We consider the decision to be a strange one, and we will fight it. All the while remaining professional.

JMB_94 wrote:Suarez can play tonight? When does his ban start then?

After all the appeals have been processed.

I don't give a shit to be honest.

Jesus. Get over it.

We've all said we don't give a shit.

Please.. just stop talking. It's just boring now

I know you don't care. I just don't understand why you don't. It was entirely unecessary, why would you accept someone risking the reputation of your club, and possibly harsh penalties, for no reason? Makes no sense.

I used to care, but you've beaten it out of me

What harsh penalties are they going to give us? A fine?

Dan wrote:What harsh penalties are they going to give us? A fine?

The FA will dock our points apparently

Stop right there.

Criminal scum

Dan wrote:What harsh penalties are they going to give us? A fine?

I don't know what they will do. However, if they feel you are working against "kick it out" there's no reason why they wouldn't take a tough stance on that.

Laurencio wrote:

Dan wrote:What harsh penalties are they going to give us? A fine?

I don't know what they will do. However, if they feel you are working against "kick it out" there's no reason why they wouldn't take a tough stance on that.

We aren't working against kick it out. The FA have already said Suarez isn't a racist.

Uruguay captain Diego Lugano has backed national team-mate Luis Suarez after his Football Association punishment for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

Liverpool striker Suarez was banned for eight games and fined £40,000 after an incident with Manchester United defender Evra at Anfield on 15 October.

"I can't believe it. They're making a big mistake," Lugano said.

"Luis is a victim. I can't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He is breaking the codes of football."

Suarez, who denied the allegations, has 14 days to appeal against the decision after a six-day FA hearing found he used "insulting words", which included a reference to Evra's colour.

"We all know what kind of person Luis is and the values he has," added Paris St Germain defender Lugano on his personal website.

"It's obvious that in England there's a racism problem they're trying to eradicate. That's good but this sentence has no solid arguments."

Suarez, who has won 54 caps for his country, enjoyed success with Uruguay in the summer, scoring in the final as they won the 2011 Copa America.

The Uruguayan Embassy has declined to comment on Suarez's punishment and said they wanted "no involvement" in what they described as a "private matter".


Liverpool released a statement on Tuesday backing Suarez and said they would provide "whatever support he now needs to clear his name".

In November, Brighton manager and former Uruguay international Gus Poyet came out in support of his fellow countryman, saying Suarez was "100% not a racist."

Poyet told talkSPORT: "England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy."

Suarez wrote on Twitter: "Today is a very difficult and painful day for me and my family. Thanks for all the support."


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Shit is going down.

Dan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

I don't know what they will do. However, if they feel you are working against "kick it out" there's no reason why they wouldn't take a tough stance on that.

We aren't working against kick it out. The FA have already said Suarez isn't a racist.

Suarez was found guilty of racial abuse, Liverpool have gone out of their way in attacking the comitee, Evra and showing a well beyond a reasonable level of support for Suarez, which may in some eyes be considered offensive given the circumstances (not saying I do). If the FA feels this is going beyond what is reasonable in defending the player and the verdict sticks, they may consider Liverpool's actions to reflect an aversion towards following "kick it out" guidelines.

Please keep in mind that I personally have nothing against Suarez. In fact I'm relatively certain he never meant anything racist about what he said.

More and more will come out over the next few days.

Lugano is one sexy footballer.

Another player said something, Lazio winger Alvaro Gonzalez, who won the Copa America with Uruguay in Argentina in July, said: "All of us who know Luis, we know that if he made this remark it wasn't [meant to be] insulting.

"We Uruguayans, and more so in football, use terms that can be wrongly interpreted by people from other places... it's not a reason to call a Uruguayan a racist," he was quoted as saying by the Montevideo newspaper El Pais.

Gonzalez said Uruguay had a high percentage of people of African descent and that "Uruguayans often call friends 'negro' affectionately."

"Maybe we end up paying for entering other, perhaps more closed cultures and which surely have discriminated against Evra at some moment for him to feel attacked in this situation.

Uruguay captain Diego Lugano has backed national team-mate Luis Suarez for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

That's how I read it at first.

Jordo wrote:Uruguay captain Diego Lugano has backed national team-mate Luis Suarez after his Football Association punishment for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

Liverpool striker Suarez was banned for eight games and fined £40,000 after an incident with Manchester United defender Evra at Anfield on 15 October.

"I can't believe it. They're making a big mistake," Lugano said.

"Luis is a victim. I can't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He is breaking the codes of football."

Suarez, who denied the allegations, has 14 days to appeal against the decision after a six-day FA hearing found he used "insulting words", which included a reference to Evra's colour.

"We all know what kind of person Luis is and the values he has," added Paris St Germain defender Lugano on his personal website.

"It's obvious that in England there's a racism problem they're trying to eradicate. That's good but this sentence has no solid arguments."

Suarez, who has won 54 caps for his country, enjoyed success with Uruguay in the summer, scoring in the final as they won the 2011 Copa America.

The Uruguayan Embassy has declined to comment on Suarez's punishment and said they wanted "no involvement" in what they described as a "private matter".


Liverpool released a statement on Tuesday backing Suarez and said they would provide "whatever support he now needs to clear his name".

In November, Brighton manager and former Uruguay international Gus Poyet came out in support of his fellow countryman, saying Suarez was "100% not a racist."

Poyet told talkSPORT: "England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy."

Suarez wrote on Twitter: "Today is a very difficult and painful day for me and my family. Thanks for all the support."


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Shit is going down.

All due respect to Lugano, Poyet, and other players, but their opinions doesn't really have any impact on anything.

SBSP wrote:Uruguay captain Diego Lugano has backed national team-mate Luis Suarez for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

That's how I read it at first.

'the black cunt had it coming'

Reportedly, Evra used the words “Don’t touch me, you South American” to Suarez as well..

Lugano's face when he heard about the decision.

I honestly don't think Suarez is one bit racist, it's been my feeling from the first time I heard about it.

Dan wrote:Reportedly, Evra used the words “Don’t touch me, you South American” to Suarez as well..

Not racist at all

kyro7 wrote:I honestly don't think Suarez is one bit racist, it's been my feeling from the first time I heard about it.

Lose the sig, it's traumatic.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

kyro7 wrote:I honestly don't think Suarez is one bit racist, it's been my feeling from the first time I heard about it.

Lose the sig, it's traumatic.

As you wish.

kyro7 wrote:I honestly don't think Suarez is one bit racist, it's been my feeling from the first time I heard about it.

I agree with that. I think it's a matter of intent vs perception. He never intended anything racist about it, but what he said can be percieved as racist.

Laurencio wrote:

kyro7 wrote:I honestly don't think Suarez is one bit racist, it's been my feeling from the first time I heard about it.

I agree with that. I think it's a matter of intent vs perception. He never intended anything racist about it, but what he said can be percieved as racist.

If Evra has actually done this on purpose, and I love Evra but that's fucking disgusting, he deserves to be kicked out of football.