Patrice Evra, the Manchester United defender at the centre of the Luis Suárez racism case, has been accused of overreacting and "crying like a baby" in an astonishing attack by Gus Poyet, a friend of the Liverpool striker.
Poyet's condemnation flies in the face of the Kick It Out campaign's instruction for footballers to report anything they consider to be racial slurs. But the Brighton manager believes Suárez has been harshly treated and his dismay about his fellow Uruguayan being charged by the Football Association manifested itself in an outburst about the behaviour of the alleged victim.
"I believe Luis Suárez, it's simple," Poyet said. "I played football for seven years in Spain and was called everything because I was from South America, and I never went out crying like a baby, like Patrice Evra, saying that someone had said something to me."
Poyet, who has befriended Suárez since the striker moved to Liverpool from Ajax in January, is not convinced the FA has enough evidence to warrant a charge of using racial insults. Suárez has denied the allegations and will plead not guilty.
"I'm surprised, in a really sad way, that he has been charged," Poyet said. "Really sad. I think it's worse to charge someone because you trust one person when you have no proof.
"I'm really sad about this charge as it's going to become too easy. I can make a complaint about any opposition manager and if I take it as far as I can he's going to get charged. Why are we going to take one person's word over another? It's too risky."
Those comments will go down badly at Old Trafford and may provoke the United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, into making a response when he holds his weekly press briefing on Friday. Evra, who alleges he was called a variation of the N-word "at least 10 times", has decided not to comment until the case is heard.
Poyet, whose playing career includes spells at Real Zaragoza, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur, appeared to be saying Evra should never have made a complaint. However, he contradicted that view when asked about the Fifa president Sepp Blatter's comments that victims of racial slurs should shake hands with their abusers at the end of matches and not take the matter further. "I respect him as Fifa president but I don't listen to him when he talks about football," he said.
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Not the most ideal thing to say at the moment.
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Its funny because I dont think Evra has said anything at all has he?
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Ham wrote:Patrice Evra, the Manchester United defender at the centre of the Luis Suárez racism case, has been accused of overreacting and "crying like a baby" in an astonishing attack by Gus Poyet, a friend of the Liverpool striker.
Poyet's condemnation flies in the face of the Kick It Out campaign's instruction for footballers to report anything they consider to be racial slurs. But the Brighton manager believes Suárez has been harshly treated and his dismay about his fellow Uruguayan being charged by the Football Association manifested itself in an outburst about the behaviour of the alleged victim.
"I believe Luis Suárez, it's simple," Poyet said. "I played football for seven years in Spain and was called everything because I was from South America, and I never went out crying like a baby, like Patrice Evra, saying that someone had said something to me."
Poyet, who has befriended Suárez since the striker moved to Liverpool from Ajax in January, is not convinced the FA has enough evidence to warrant a charge of using racial insults. Suárez has denied the allegations and will plead not guilty.
"I'm surprised, in a really sad way, that he has been charged," Poyet said. "Really sad. I think it's worse to charge someone because you trust one person when you have no proof.
"I'm really sad about this charge as it's going to become too easy. I can make a complaint about any opposition manager and if I take it as far as I can he's going to get charged. Why are we going to take one person's word over another? It's too risky."
Those comments will go down badly at Old Trafford and may provoke the United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, into making a response when he holds his weekly press briefing on Friday. Evra, who alleges he was called a variation of the N-word "at least 10 times", has decided not to comment until the case is heard.
Poyet, whose playing career includes spells at Real Zaragoza, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur, appeared to be saying Evra should never have made a complaint. However, he contradicted that view when asked about the Fifa president Sepp Blatter's comments that victims of racial slurs should shake hands with their abusers at the end of matches and not take the matter further. "I respect him as Fifa president but I don't listen to him when he talks about football," he said.
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Hopefully Gus loses his legs in a horrible accident.
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I just realised David Gill is a member of the FA, Probably has something to do with this..
I just realised David Gill is a member of the FA, Probably has something to do with this..
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Shame that Poyet is throwing in with Liverpool FC, trying to make reporting racism unacceptable.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Shame that Poyet is throwing in with Liverpool FC, trying to make reporting racism unacceptable.
Hes trying to make lying about racism is unacceptable.
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Hopefully Evra does.kyro7 wrote:Hopefully Gus loses his legs in a horrible accident.
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polska. wrote:Hopefully Evra does.kyro7 wrote:Hopefully Gus loses his legs in a horrible accident.
Neither of you are very nice.
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I don't know how you guys can victimise Evra and defend Suarez. It's pathetic.
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SBSP wrote:I don't know how you guys can victimise Evra and defend Suarez. It's pathetic.
I don't know how you can say for sure suarez did it
pathetic.
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we already know Suarez did it. he even admitted it pretty much
that word is clearly the N word. if it wasnt he would say what word it was. Anyone defending Suarez is saying nigga is an ok word to use
Suarez wrote:I called him something his team-mates at Manchester call him,
that word is clearly the N word. if it wasnt he would say what word it was. Anyone defending Suarez is saying nigga is an ok word to use
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I don't know how he can compare now to when he used to play, the game has changed since then, and so has the world.
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I think he is, If I was black skin and somebody called me for example a 'racist name' I wouldn't go crazy it's just like somebody calling me a cunt doesn't bother me it's a fucking name.
Just noticed N!gger is ice-cream lol?
Just noticed N!gger is ice-cream lol?
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Poyet
IF Suarez didn't say anything then Evra must be punished for lying about it. Accusing someone of racist comments that they didn't make is a serious offense, can ruin someone's career and reputation. I'm not saying he did lie about what Suarez may or may have not said though, because IF Suarez DID say something then he must be punished for making racist remarks.
IF Suarez didn't say anything then Evra must be punished for lying about it. Accusing someone of racist comments that they didn't make is a serious offense, can ruin someone's career and reputation. I'm not saying he did lie about what Suarez may or may have not said though, because IF Suarez DID say something then he must be punished for making racist remarks.
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Hearing the same thing over and over and over again, the truth is, nobody knows who's telling the truth except Evra and Suarez, people taking sides are very stupid, and Poyet is a cunt for saying this because if it is true then Evra has every right to report Suarez, if he isn't then he should be banned, simple as that.
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Yeah, and Poyet doesn't know either way so stop bowing to the stupid cunt.easley91 wrote:Poyet
IF Suarez didn't say anything then Evra must be punished for lying about it. Accusing someone of racist comments that they didn't make is a serious offense, can ruin someone's career and reputation. I'm not saying he did lie about what Suarez may or may have not said though, because IF Suarez DID say something then he must be punished for making racist remarks.
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I can't bow to a Spurs legend? I was only bowing to him for what he did for my club.
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He told the media what happened immediately after the match, standing up and speaking up against racism, and he's been vilified and hated for it by Liverpool fans. He hasn't said anything since, publicly, and neither has anyone from United. Unlike Kenneth Dalglish who's been banging on and on about in the media, saying that anyone who gets in trouble for racism will be supported by the club (and that's no secret) Liverpool's employee making up lies about Patrice Evra (has that man been sacked yet by the way?), and Liverpool FC saying they will back Suarez regardless.VivaRonaldo wrote:Its funny because I dont think Evra has said anything at all has he?
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Not unless I give you permission, no.easley91 wrote:I can't bow to a Spurs legend?
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Poyet, what an idiot. Not the best time to come and and say something quite controversial like that. Also, the fact he's calling some one a "cry baby" because they have been racial abused is disgusting. How does Poyet know they have no prove? No one knows apart from the FA and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't charge someone without sufficient amount of evidence, it would be too risky.
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I wonder how you Liverpool fans would have reacted if it was one of our players being racist to Johnson.
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Kuled wrote:I wonder how you Liverpool fans would have reacted if it was one of our players being racist to Johnson.
I'm not exactly Johnson's number one fan to be honest
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Gus Poyet is a fucking crybaby himself.
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Dave calling it the truth.