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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:23 am

    Fernando Torres says Liverpool fans do not know the full story behind his transfer to English Premier League rivals Chelsea.

    The Spain international is an unpopular figure on Merseyside, going from hero to villain after his 50 million-pound switch to London in the January transfer window.

    Torres was roundly booed during Spain's defeat to England at Wembley on Saturday and expects to be in the firing line from the away fans when Liverpool travel to Stamford Bridge on Sunday, but said his former club's supporters will always be special to him.

    "I've no doubt (the abuse) will be a lot worse (on Sunday)," Torres told Marca.

    "The Liverpool fans have only paid attention to what the club made them see and they don't know the true story of my transfer to Chelsea."

    "That's why I don’t hold any grudges; they will always be special to me."

    Torres became a Kop idol for his lethal form during his first three seasons with the club, scoring 56 Premier League goals in just 79 appearances while playing under Rafael Benitez.

    But when the Spanish manager was replaced by Roy Hodgson, his form dipped and it has not fully recovered since his move to the capital.

    "Nobody has understood me like Rafa Benitez
    ," he said.

    "I owe him a lot. He is a fantastic coach. His teams go out on to the pitch with just one aim: to compete."

    "The sensation they transmit is that, with less (of a) budget, they can beat the biggest teams."

    The 27-year-old will be hoping to show something like his best form when Liverpool visit on Sunday, with the player stating the importance of the fixture as Chelsea look to stay in the title race.

    Torres' former club have picked up only one win in their last four Premier League matches, but the forward believes that they are heading in the right direction.

    "(Liverpool) are a team in transition and the change doesn't come overnight," he said.

    "They need time. They have made a significant investment and, like in any project, they need to establish themselves."

    "(Chelsea) can't allow ourselves the luxury of losing any more points. It will be a very special game and atmosphere, too, without a doubt."

    With only two Premier League goals this season, Torres has not yet hit top form in a Chelsea shirt.

    But he dismissed concerns that he was feeling the pressure of his transfer fee and remains optimistic about his future.

    "You place the responsibility on yourself, it's something you can't control," he said.

    "Also, how much I cost doesn't depend on me, it's the clubs who decide what they are willing to pay and it is they who come to an agreement."

    "I have been lucky enough to experience many wonderful situations over the last 10 years, but I am confident the best is yet to come."
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:24 am

    Hope he scores a brace against Liverpool.

    He's been treated so unfairly.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:24 am

    Rafa not worthy

    I understand why he left.

    Just full of whats if's, if he stayed.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:25 am

    Why a brace, Ché?
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    Post by Start. Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:25 am

    I feel sorry for him, Really do.

    I mean how long has he been playing 'poor' compared to what he played like under Rafa, must be hard.

    Hopefully he can find that form again sometime soon.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:26 am

    Cam wrote:Why a brace, Ché?
    'Cause hoping for a hat trick from Torres is like hoping Salma Hayek accepts my invitation to the prom.
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    Post by Rodallega Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:31 am

    Torres not worthy

    Used to hate him, now i love him
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:31 am

    I hope he scores


    but only after we are winning like 5-0 as a consolation goal
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    Post by Childish Logic Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:32 am

    I don't blame him for leaving. I blame him for how he left and how he acted once he left, If he left and acted normally about it then i wouldn't hate him.
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    Post by luke. Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:33 am

    How could he act normally when scousers were wishing death upon him?

    I doubt you'd act normally in that situation, nor would anyone. Especially someone as quit and fragile as Torres seems.

    Infact, it's wrong to even judge him as if he wasn't acting normally.
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    Post by Childish Logic Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:36 am

    luke. wrote:How could he act normally when scousers were wishing death upon him?

    I doubt you'd act normally in that situation, nor would anyone. Especially someone as quit and fragile as Torres seems.

    Infact, it's wrong to even judge him as if he wasn't acting normally.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/fernando-torres-chelsea-big-step-forward

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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:37 am

    I don't hate Torres now, it was just the heat of the moment to be honest. He broke my heart.

    That will change if he celebrates like a crazy person if he scores.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:38 am

    Fans don't know the full story?


    Ok, then what is the full story? As far as I see it, the most positive spin you could possibly put on his transfer was him just jumping a (then) sinking ship to further his own career.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:40 am

    NZG wrote:
    luke. wrote:How could he act normally when scousers were wishing death upon him?

    I doubt you'd act normally in that situation, nor would anyone. Especially someone as quit and fragile as Torres seems.

    Infact, it's wrong to even judge him as if he wasn't acting normally.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/fernando-torres-chelsea-big-step-forward

    Torres can rot in hell.
    Saying that joining Chelsea is a big step forward doesn't mean that he's implying Liverpool is a bit steaming pile of poo. I don't see a single thing wrong in that article.
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    Post by luke. Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:42 am

    NZG wrote:
    luke. wrote:How could he act normally when scousers were wishing death upon him?

    I doubt you'd act normally in that situation, nor would anyone. Especially someone as quit and fragile as Torres seems.

    Infact, it's wrong to even judge him as if he wasn't acting normally.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/fernando-torres-chelsea-big-step-forward

    Torres can rot in hell.

    Rot in hell for speaking the truth?

    I thought lying was a sin.

    "I'm so, so happy and so, so proud to be here, finally, after these 12 days of conversations," said Torres on Chelsea TV. "But, at the end of the day, I can say I'm a Chelsea player and I'm really, really happy. This is the kind of team I like to play against because that motivates me, but it's the kind of team I want to play for. It's always very tough playing against Chelsea, it's one of the biggest teams in Europe, always fighting for everything.

    "So, after this, there are no more steps forward. This is the top level. The target for every footballer is to try and play at one of the top-level clubs in the world, and I can do it now. I have to be very, very happy as I am. The last three or four days have been very hard for me, especially after everything I have lived in Liverpool.

    "But, as I said before, I can say I'm a Chelsea player now. I'm really happy and I'm sure I am doing one big step forward in my career joining a club like Chelsea. This is a great club, a real responsibility and everyone is expecting great things about me and I'm prepared and ready for the challenge."

    I don't really see what's so bad about what he said, it's not wrong. The season before he left, you finished 7th, at the time he left, you were something like 16th, or ridiculously low in the table, and finished the season without European football. He wasn't wrong. You can't deny a move from Liverpool to Chelsea, in today's footballing world, is a big step up.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:44 am

    "After 12days of conversations".

    Everyone only found out on Deadline Day, Liverpool fans should've been made aware of the talks.
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    Post by Keanoo Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:46 am

    Who cares anymore? Torres is now completely worthless and Saurez is now a better player than him.
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    Post by luke. Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:46 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:"After 12days of conversations".

    Everyone only found out on Deadline Day, Liverpool fans should've been made aware of the talks.

    It was the same with Meireles.

    It brings us back to what Torres is saying about how Liverpool fans believed the story Liverpool told them; that he handed in a Transfer Request days before the window ended, infact it was much more likely to be done before that. Just like Meireles, supposedly handed in a transfer request at 11:20am, or thereabouts, an hour later, he was a Chelsea player. Balls.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:48 am

    "Nobody has understood me like Rafa Benitez," he said.

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    Must be talking about them both being Spanish.
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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:51 am

    Chris wrote:"Nobody has understood me like Rafa Benitez," he said.

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    Must be talking about them both being Spanish.

    He was carrying an injury. He missed the next couple of games, if my memory serves me correctly.

    The medical team let Torres, and Rafa down. Hicks forcing Torres to play, through injury.
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    Post by Steadman Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:05 am

    Always liked him, always said he just needs to settle and find his game again, while others continued to call him shit and a disgrace. I don't think any Liverpool fan can begrudge him a move to Chelsea, similar to Arsenal fans with Robin if he decides to leave us.

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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:10 am

    Tbh he needs alot more than just find his game.. he completely doesnt look like himself at all. It looks like he is struggling to run etc... hes just not himself at all. Its gonna take alot more than just "finding his game" imo.
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    Post by Steadman Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:17 am

    He has the work rate and ambition to get back to his best, he obviously needs to build his confidence back up to the level it was in his Liverpool/Atletico years, a few goals would do him the world of good as well. Still think he'll get back to/close to his best though.
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    Post by Samuel-x Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:18 am

    Alike others, I feel sorry for him. He's done nothing wrong as football is concerned; he wanted to leave so he did accordingly. The amount of disrespectful he is getting is pathetic; he was and still is one of the greatest strikers around. I pray with my heart that he'll score against Liverpool, regardless of the overall score. A goal against Liverpool for Torres is one that cannot be paid in pounds but in heart.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:21 am

    As soon as he gets something going his way it will go wrong 10 minutes later. Laughing
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:27 am

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    Chris wrote:"Nobody has understood me like Rafa Benitez," he said.

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    Must be talking about them both being Spanish.

    He was carrying an injury. He missed the next couple of games, if my memory serves me correctly.

    The medical team let Torres, and Rafa down. Hicks forcing Torres to play, through injury.
    This is true, Benitez was taking him off in the hope that he would be fit for your Europa League matches, because he felt that a Europa League win would look better on his CV than a 5th place finish as opposed to 7th. Atletico ended up dumping you out though, and Benitez withdrew him from the subsequent game against Chelsea to make sure Liverpool lost.
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    Post by Laurencio Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:30 am

    I don't think it's any secret that Torres left a sinking ship, and that the money being offered were too much to be scoffed at.
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    Post by Childish Logic Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:12 pm

    Ché Guayaba wrote:
    NZG wrote:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/fernando-torres-chelsea-big-step-forward

    Torres can rot in hell.
    Saying that joining Chelsea is a big step forward doesn't mean that he's implying Liverpool is a bit steaming pile of poo. I don't see a single thing wrong in that article.

    "So, after this, there are no more steps forward. This is the top level." It is disrespectful, You don't say shit like that as soon as you leave a club you "love".

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/fernando-torres-chelsea-big-step-forward

    Torres can rot in hell.

    Rot in hell for speaking the truth?

    I thought lying was a sin.

    "I'm so, so happy and so, so proud to be here, finally, after these 12 days of conversations," said Torres on Chelsea TV. "But, at the end of the day, I can say I'm a Chelsea player and I'm really, really happy. This is the kind of team I like to play against because that motivates me, but it's the kind of team I want to play for. It's always very tough playing against Chelsea, it's one of the biggest teams in Europe, always fighting for everything.

    "So, after this, there are no more steps forward. This is the top level. The target for every footballer is to try and play at one of the top-level clubs in the world, and I can do it now. I have to be very, very happy as I am. The last three or four days have been very hard for me, especially after everything I have lived in Liverpool.

    "But, as I said before, I can say I'm a Chelsea player now. I'm really happy and I'm sure I am doing one big step forward in my career joining a club like Chelsea. This is a great club, a real responsibility and everyone is expecting great things about me and I'm prepared and ready for the challenge."

    I don't really see what's so bad about what he said, it's not wrong. The season before he left, you finished 7th, at the time he left, you were something like 16th, or ridiculously low in the table, and finished the season without European football. He wasn't wrong. You can't deny a move from Liverpool to Chelsea, in today's footballing world, is a big step up.

    no we were not 16th when he left. We had just went on a great unbeaten run and were playing great football with him on some great form. If he stayed we would of finished higher up and we would be higher up the table now. He didn't leave a sinking ship at the time.

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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:33 pm

    Laurencio wrote:I don't think it's any secret that Torres left a sinking ship, and that the money being offered were too much to be scoffed at.

    Sinking ship...hardly.




    Luke, you don't need to go about with your passionate defence every time Torres gets a mention.



    That we apparently don't know the full story is a nice but stupid way to side-step what we do know. I still think he's a bitch, but normally I can't care less.

    Yes, it does help that as of now, Suarez is better than him. Why try to be sarcastic about the truth? If a big player leaves course a better player filling his boots will soften the blow.
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    Post by Childish Logic Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:37 pm

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:I don't think it's any secret that Torres left a sinking ship, and that the money being offered were too much to be scoffed at.

    Sinking ship...hardly.




    Luke, you don't need to go about with your passionate defence every time Torres gets a mention.



    That we apparently don't know the full story is a nice but stupid way to side-step what we do know. I still think he's a bitch, but normally I can't care less.

    Yes, it does help that as of now, Suarez is better than him. Why try to be sarcastic about the truth? If a big player leaves course a better player filling his boots will soften the blow.

    Suarez has been better than him so far* Torres was better when he was here tbh. If suarez learns to finish then he'll be a lot better.

    but I agree with everything else.

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