History Thread

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:Maybe geography is different in canada its all earthquakes and, Coastal environments and tsunamis and stuff, all of which could be increasing because of climate change, global warming, rising sea levels, etc.

Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Cam wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:Maybe geography is different in canada its all earthquakes and, Coastal environments and tsunamis and stuff, all of which could be increasing because of climate change, global warming, rising sea levels, etc.

Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Yeah, we learn about that as well, but y'know, my school sucks, so what do I know?

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:Its interesting though how's there no central figure in modern history, (well maybe BinLaden)

When has there been?

Depends what your studying. Obviously you have your Hitler, then you have your Stalin's, Lenin's, Kennedy's etc. But I guess apart from War on Terror and the leaders involved in that, all the big events in our history has been a result of the majority, rather than 1 or 2 competing leaders/countries

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:First dark skinned President is a biggie, there's also what happened yesterday, the Global Financial Crisis (and what it might lead to in the future), the Tsunami, the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks in London, as well as the Madrid train bombings and the Bali bomb. The US and UK conquering Iraq and Afghanistan, and the awful lack of planning that went into them.

Saying that, I do think this will go down as an era of peacefulness, OK there were the terrorist attacks outlined above, but they killed what, 4,000 people altogether? Far more people are killed by cars, probably by falling off ladders in the same time period. There's no apocalyptic threat as there was in the Cold War, there are no major powers threatening to conquer each other, as there were for pretty much the whole of human history up until about 1990. Economies have become increasingly independent and weapons increasingly powerful resulting in war being an extremely undesirable outcome for any major powers. People are also wising up to the pointlessness of religion, becoming better educated, in the West at least.

If historians ever do look back on this period of history it'll be as the start of the golden age of humanity, if they don't, then it was the last good period before World War III and the end of civilisation in nuclear fire. Could be worse.

Fuck WWIII, won't happen.

We are probably living in the Golden Age of humanity currently. If we do nothing, ecological collapse will fuck us over and over throughout the next century.

ClarkY wrote:Disease outbreaks?

Cam wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:Maybe geography is different in canada its all earthquakes and, Coastal environments and tsunamis and stuff, all of which could be increasing because of climate change, global warming, rising sea levels, etc.

Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Yeah, we learn about that as well, but y'know, my school sucks, so what do I know?

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

Sean wrote:When I say central I didnt really mean just one guy, I mean 1-3 people who are most prominent.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:Its interesting though how's there no central figure in modern history, (well maybe BinLaden)

When has there been?

Depends what your studying. Obviously you have your Hitler, then you have your Stalin's, Lenin's, Kennedy's etc. But I guess apart from War on Terror and the leaders involved in that, all the big events in our history has been a result of the majority, rather than 1 or 2 competing leaders/countries

Hitler and Stalin ruled at the same time, I seriously doubt people back then would have looked at Stalin and thought 'Nah, he's not the main man here, Hitler is', we only see Hitler as the big one because we're looking at it from the future. I imagine George Bush will be seen as the central figure in 100 years time.

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:First dark skinned President is a biggie, there's also what happened yesterday, the Global Financial Crisis (and what it might lead to in the future), the Tsunami, the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks in London, as well as the Madrid train bombings and the Bali bomb. The US and UK conquering Iraq and Afghanistan, and the awful lack of planning that went into them.

Saying that, I do think this will go down as an era of peacefulness, OK there were the terrorist attacks outlined above, but they killed what, 4,000 people altogether? Far more people are killed by cars, probably by falling off ladders in the same time period. There's no apocalyptic threat as there was in the Cold War, there are no major powers threatening to conquer each other, as there were for pretty much the whole of human history up until about 1990. Economies have become increasingly independent and weapons increasingly powerful resulting in war being an extremely undesirable outcome for any major powers. People are also wising up to the pointlessness of religion, becoming better educated, in the West at least.

If historians ever do look back on this period of history it'll be as the start of the golden age of humanity, if they don't, then it was the last good period before World War III and the end of civilisation in nuclear fire. Could be worse.

Fuck WWIII, won't happen.

We are probably living in the Golden Age of humanity currently. If we do nothing, ecological collapse will fuck us over and over throughout the next century.

Might not happen, although with Russia seceding from the world I'm not quite as confident as you. If it doesn't happen we're in great shape, I'm confident the ecological problems will be solved in due course with new technology.

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:Maybe geography is different in canada its all earthquakes and, Coastal environments and tsunamis and stuff, all of which could be increasing because of climate change, global warming, rising sea levels, etc.

Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Yeah, we learn about that as well, but y'know, my school sucks, so what do I know?

Climate change has little to do with Geography. The term itself implies change over time. IE Natural History.

Or if you are discussing historical climate change caused by humans(for example the turning of one of the most fertile areas of the planet to desert, IE the Middle East), than that goes to History as well. Perhaps Social studies.

If you are referring to current "climate change" the vast ignorant populations believe in, such as global warming, I suppose it goes under Modern history.

dena wrote:

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

Get out.

Bogdan wrote:

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

Noooooooooooo geography is so boring.

Coatsy wrote:

Ben wrote:Geography >>>>> History

What a ridiculous statement.

Forest wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:Maybe geography is different in canada its all earthquakes and, Coastal environments and tsunamis and stuff, all of which could be increasing because of climate change, global warming, rising sea levels, etc.

Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Yeah, we learn about that as well, but y'know, my school sucks, so what do I know?

Climate change has little to do with Geography. The term itself implies change over time. IE Natural History.

Or if you are discussing historical climate change caused by humans(for example the turning of one of the most fertile areas of the planet to desert, IE the Middle East), than that goes to History as well. Perhaps Social studies.

If you are referring to current "climate change" the vast ignorant populations believe in, such as global warming, I suppose it goes under Modern history.

Of course Climate Change is to do with Geography.

polska. wrote:On the topic of most influential man of the 20th century... Look no further than Gavrilo Princip.

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:Its interesting though how's there no central figure in modern history, (well maybe BinLaden)

When has there been?

Depends what your studying. Obviously you have your Hitler, then you have your Stalin's, Lenin's, Kennedy's etc. But I guess apart from War on Terror and the leaders involved in that, all the big events in our history has been a result of the majority, rather than 1 or 2 competing leaders/countries

Hitler and Stalin ruled at the same time, I seriously doubt people back then would have looked at Stalin and thought 'Nah, he's not the main man here, Hitler is', we only see Hitler as the big one because we're looking at it from the future. I imagine George Bush will be seen as the central figure in 100 years time.

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:First dark skinned President is a biggie, there's also what happened yesterday, the Global Financial Crisis (and what it might lead to in the future), the Tsunami, the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks in London, as well as the Madrid train bombings and the Bali bomb. The US and UK conquering Iraq and Afghanistan, and the awful lack of planning that went into them.

Saying that, I do think this will go down as an era of peacefulness, OK there were the terrorist attacks outlined above, but they killed what, 4,000 people altogether? Far more people are killed by cars, probably by falling off ladders in the same time period. There's no apocalyptic threat as there was in the Cold War, there are no major powers threatening to conquer each other, as there were for pretty much the whole of human history up until about 1990. Economies have become increasingly independent and weapons increasingly powerful resulting in war being an extremely undesirable outcome for any major powers. People are also wising up to the pointlessness of religion, becoming better educated, in the West at least.

If historians ever do look back on this period of history it'll be as the start of the golden age of humanity, if they don't, then it was the last good period before World War III and the end of civilisation in nuclear fire. Could be worse.

Fuck WWIII, won't happen.

We are probably living in the Golden Age of humanity currently. If we do nothing, ecological collapse will fuck us over and over throughout the next century.

Might not happen, although with Russia seceding from the world I'm not quite as confident as you. If it doesn't happen we're in great shape, I'm confident the ecological problems will be solved in due course with new technology.

Russia only want to restore some of their ego. They aren't a threat and are too smart to cause shit.

Technology? We have the technology now. Future technology will only make things even easier. Technology here isn't the problem. The problem is that everybody is too dumb to do anything about it until it is too late.

Things will be ok though after a few centuries. Mother Nature has a way of setting things right. However before we get there, humanity will be plagued with constant famine, disease, and wars, like what is happening right now in Africa, only at a much larger scale!

polska. wrote:

Forest wrote:

polska. wrote:

Cam wrote:

polska. wrote:Geography in Canada was about natural stuff. Way rivers form, sea currents, types of earthquakes and soils for that matter, land forms et cetera.

Yeah, we learn about that as well, but y'know, my school sucks, so what do I know?

Climate change has little to do with Geography. The term itself implies change over time. IE Natural History.

Or if you are discussing historical climate change caused by humans(for example the turning of one of the most fertile areas of the planet to desert, IE the Middle East), than that goes to History as well. Perhaps Social studies.

If you are referring to current "climate change" the vast ignorant populations believe in, such as global warming, I suppose it goes under Modern history.

Of course Climate Change is to do with Geography.

Sean wrote:Princep the guy who shot old Franzy?

Roloman4 wrote:

polska. wrote:On the topic of most influential man of the 20th century... Look no further than Gavrilo Princip.

World War One would have happened eventually regardless of whether Princip eisted or not.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

When has there been?

Depends what your studying. Obviously you have your Hitler, then you have your Stalin's, Lenin's, Kennedy's etc. But I guess apart from War on Terror and the leaders involved in that, all the big events in our history has been a result of the majority, rather than 1 or 2 competing leaders/countries

Hitler and Stalin ruled at the same time, I seriously doubt people back then would have looked at Stalin and thought 'Nah, he's not the main man here, Hitler is', we only see Hitler as the big one because we're looking at it from the future. I imagine George Bush will be seen as the central figure in 100 years time.

polska. wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:First dark skinned President is a biggie, there's also what happened yesterday, the Global Financial Crisis (and what it might lead to in the future), the Tsunami, the 7/7 and 21/7 attacks in London, as well as the Madrid train bombings and the Bali bomb. The US and UK conquering Iraq and Afghanistan, and the awful lack of planning that went into them.

Saying that, I do think this will go down as an era of peacefulness, OK there were the terrorist attacks outlined above, but they killed what, 4,000 people altogether? Far more people are killed by cars, probably by falling off ladders in the same time period. There's no apocalyptic threat as there was in the Cold War, there are no major powers threatening to conquer each other, as there were for pretty much the whole of human history up until about 1990. Economies have become increasingly independent and weapons increasingly powerful resulting in war being an extremely undesirable outcome for any major powers. People are also wising up to the pointlessness of religion, becoming better educated, in the West at least.

If historians ever do look back on this period of history it'll be as the start of the golden age of humanity, if they don't, then it was the last good period before World War III and the end of civilisation in nuclear fire. Could be worse.

Fuck WWIII, won't happen.

We are probably living in the Golden Age of humanity currently. If we do nothing, ecological collapse will fuck us over and over throughout the next century.

Might not happen, although with Russia seceding from the world I'm not quite as confident as you. If it doesn't happen we're in great shape, I'm confident the ecological problems will be solved in due course with new technology.

Russia only want to restore some of their ego. They aren't a threat and are too smart to cause shit.

Technology? We have the technology now. Future technology will only make things even easier. Technology here isn't the problem. The problem is that everybody is too dumb to do anything about it until it is too late.

Things will be ok though after a few centuries. Mother Nature has a way of setting things right. However before we get there, humanity will be plagued with constant famine, disease, and wars, like what is happening right now in Africa, only at a much larger scale!

These are some pretty bold claims. People will do something about it when something needs to be done.

Rei Andros wrote:Atila never gets sick and goes on to smash the Papal Armies. How different would the world be?


/randomspeculation