Should Everton fans be suspended?

Scott wrote:







Disgusting fans.

Jack wrote:As did the Arsenal fans who threw a coin at Jamie Carragher, as does he himself for throwing it back, as does the Liverpool fans for throwing a mobile at Wayne Rooney, as does the Bayern Leverkusen fans for throwing sparklers and flares onto the pitch, as does the City fans for hitting Bellamy with a bottle, as does whoever hit Dida.

You're a pathetic little poster, fuck off to wherever you came from.

You expect this in derby's.

theboss wrote:

Jack wrote:As did the Arsenal fans who threw a coin at Jamie Carragher, as does he himself for throwing it back, as does the Liverpool fans for throwing a mobile at Wayne Rooney, as does the Bayern Leverkusen fans for throwing sparklers and flares onto the pitch, as does the City fans for hitting Bellamy with a bottle, as does whoever hit Dida.

You're a pathetic little poster, fuck off to wherever you came from.

You expect this in derby's.

so that makes it right?

Jack wrote:

theboss wrote:

so that makes it right?

Well it doesn't make it right to solely blame Everton just because they're the easy targets being a smaller club.

Fancy that, hitting Suarez with a plastic empty lucozade bottle, then again, might do more damage than that fucking sending off offence.

The funny thing about Everton fans, and the mob in general, is that it's always easier to blame someone else for your ills, than actually look inward at yourself.


Over the last 15-20 years, as a club, Everton have been woefully run. From the late 80s/early90s they have gone from a power base in English football, to a mediocre mid table team, and off the pitch, even worse.

Thats not going to make any rabid evertonian take a long hard look at themselves though. Oh no.

It's far easier to blame someone else than admit to your own failings. Instead of looking how Johnson ran them into the ground, or how their current chairman bought them with great words, and a pittance in the bank.


In many ways, Everton have made the same mistakes Liverpool have. From the inception and monopoly of the Premier League, by Sky, Liverpool were left behind by the likes of Man Utd, as they got their act together in financing and redeveloping their stadium to sit more and more people, and therefore make more and more revenue, over many years.
We didn't and were left trailing in Man United's wake.

Everton have been guilty of exactly the same charges, but worse.

Instead of looking after their own lot, and keeping their eye on their own financial situatiion, they have been blinded by jealousy, envy, and loathing of those 'red shite, across the park.

To blame Liverpool for all of their woe's, it suits them to play the vicim, and blame all of their problems on a hate figure, to rally against.

In the late 80s, there wasn't very much between Everton/Liverpool/Man Utd/Leeds et al. Into the early 90s, Man Utd grasped the nettle, and took their financial muscle to new hights. Liverpool did nothing, thinking that the staus quo would never change. Having been top dog for so long, we thought that we were bullet-proof, and nobody could oust us. We were wrong. By doing so, we didn't move forward, but stagnated, and with that stagnation, over time, slowly and surely slipped down the pack.

Everton did exactly the same. But in our case, we always had the confidence that we'd be back their one day, and with the right apointments, won silverware again, and started to drag ourselves out or the mid table mediocrity, and into the top four again.

Everton on the other hand, instead of worrying about their own lot in life, and how to improve it, brooded, and blamed everyone else for their demise.

From 1985 about 1990, there wasn't that much crying foul at Liverpool for ruining their club. Whilst Everton were still in the top eschelons of the football pile, and competing for silverware every season, the debies were still pretty friendly, and not filled with hate.

It was only as the mismanagement of Everton off the field throughout the 90s impacted on the team on the pitch, that the animosity started to grow. As everton stagnated further and further, more and more of the fanbase started throwing rocks at the neighbour over the fence. You see, it was easier to blame the neighbours, other than blame your own family.

From the early 90s onwards, many Everton fans have been slowly blinded by hate, to such an extent that they've almost forgotten who the original culprits in the likes of 'agent' Johnson, are, for their slow demise.

We are now at a point, twenty odd years down the line, that they have believed their own misguided delusions for so long, they cannot now see the truth, as it's been buried in twenty years of brainwashing self flagilation. Moreso now, that many of the fans that sling their hate filled bile at Liverpool and it's fans, were mere toddlers, or not even born at the time when Everton were competing for the league title, year on year, and that bile is a learned experience from older brothers and fathers who went before.

In the future, unfortunatly, it's only going to get worse. As Everton stand still, or go backwards under their current chairman, and owners, more and more, they're going to need a hate figure to blame it all on. But that hate figure, as before will not be of their own family, but the neighbours, as it's always easier to blame somone else than your own.

The current hate filled derbies, unfortunately, are something we're going to have to get used to. In fact, I can see them getting a lot more violent over the coming years, untill a tipping point is reached that the authorities or clubs themselves have to step in, to quell the venom that has been growing over the years.

theboss wrote:

Jack wrote:

Well it doesn't make it right to solely blame Everton just because they're the easy targets being a smaller club.

Fancy that, hitting Suarez with a plastic empty lucozade bottle, then again, might do more damage than that fucking sending off offence.

it was the ref's fault rodwell was sent off not suarez, put the cookoo back in its clock

Forest wrote:It's not really expected in derby's tbh. A lot of fans around the country are more civilised. In all my years of attending the East Midlands derby, I can't recall one single incident of players having things thrown at them.

Jack wrote:

theboss wrote:

it was the ref's fault rodwell was sent off not suarez, put the cookoo back in its clock

No need for Suarez to dive into the air screaming like he'd been shot then hold his foot needlessly while gazing up towards the referee.

James wrote:To be honest, it doesn't bother me that threw things at Suarez or Bellamy, they deserve it. Reina and Kuyt is harsh though. Should have thrown stuff at Adam and knocked his remaining 2 teeth out.

Jack wrote:As did the Arsenal fans who threw a coin at Jamie Carragher, as does he himself for throwing it back, as does the Liverpool fans for throwing a mobile at Wayne Rooney, as does the Bayern Leverkusen fans for throwing sparklers and flares onto the pitch, as does the City fans for hitting Bellamy with a bottle, as does whoever hit Dida.

You're a pathetic little poster, fuck off to wherever you came from.

You expect this in derby's.

Jay wrote:

Jack wrote:As did the Arsenal fans who threw a coin at Jamie Carragher, as does he himself for throwing it back, as does the Liverpool fans for throwing a mobile at Wayne Rooney, as does the Bayern Leverkusen fans for throwing sparklers and flares onto the pitch, as does the City fans for hitting Bellamy with a bottle, as does whoever hit Dida.

You're a pathetic little poster, fuck off to wherever you came from.

You expect this in derby's.

Stop chatting shit, plenty of derby matches go by without players having coins thrown at them.

Jack wrote:

Jay wrote:

Stop chatting shit, plenty of derby matches go by without players having coins thrown at them.

But if it was the other way round.

Mr Leiva wrote:

Jack wrote:

But if it was the other way round.

There tits, that should be banned from going to football stadiums. Red or Blue, Scouser or Wool?

Agreed?

Jack wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

There tits, that should be banned from going to football stadiums. Red or Blue, Scouser or Wool?

Agreed?

They should be banned anyway.

Jelavic9|RFC wrote:It's so obvious that this cunt is BigAndy now

Jack wrote:

theboss wrote:

so that makes it right?

Well it doesn't make it right to solely blame Everton just because they're the easy targets being a smaller club.

Fancy that, hitting Suarez with a plastic empty lucozade bottle, then again, might do more damage than that fucking sending off offence.

kyro7 wrote:Everyone who throws things at players/other fans should be banned.

James wrote:To be honest, it doesn't bother me that threw things at Suarez or Bellamy, they deserve it. Reina and Kuyt is harsh though. Should have thrown stuff at Adam and knocked his remaining 2 teeth out.

Alan wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Everyone who throws things at players/other fans should be banned.

Totally agreed on this, and i dont care what fans throw things at players they should all be banned. But lets not say that all fans are the same, as you would have had loads of Everton fans on saturday who did not throw things.