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Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

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Dalglish Vs. Hodgson

Kenneth "Kenny" Dalglish: [ 14 ]; [33%]

Roy "Woy" Hodgson: [ 29 ]; [67%]

Total Votes: 43

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Post n°1

Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:32 am

The last two men to manage Liverpool Football Club, both with comparable records after 30 and 31 games respectively. Obviously Kenneth Dalglish escapes a lot of criticism from the Liverpool fans thanks to his exploits as a player, and as a manager 20 years ago, but who is the better manager?

By this stage in Roy 'Woy' Hodgson was the victim of a vicious campaign of hatred by Liverpool fans, with the families of the players seen as being his targetted, Liverpool fans were chanting for him to lose his job as little as 2 months after his first competitive game, should they also be calling for the head of the devious, aggressive Liverpool Legend, Kenneth 'Kenny' Dalglish? How much has his legendary status influenced perceptions in the perennial dump that is Anfield?

I would like to invite Liverpool fans to have their say on this matter, however please try not to be too biased towards the former Liverpool player. You guys have ensured that previous threads of this nature have failed.

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Post n°2

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:32 am

What are their records?

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Post n°3

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:35 am

Hodgson's record as Lpool manager: P31 W13 D9 L9. Dalglish's record since returning as Lpool manager: P30 W15 D6 L9.

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Jamie Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:37 am

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Hodgson's record as Lpool manager: P31 W13 D9 L9. Dalglish's record since returning as Lpool manager: P30 W15 D6 L9.

Not great reading.

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Post n°5

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:38 am

Surprised by that, Dalglish has still got Liverpool playing better though.

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Post n°6

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by luke. Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:39 am

Spent £120 Million for 12 more points.

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Post n°7

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Kaka11|LFC Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:46 am

luke. wrote:Spent £120 Million for 12 more points.

Spent £50 Million for 2 goals in over half a season.

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:47 am

Yeah, Dalglish knows where the value's at, he spent £35m on 2 goals in half a season.

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by luke. Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:50 am

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

luke. wrote:Spent £120 Million for 12 more points.

Spent £50 Million for 2 goals in over half a season.

Oh, and why are you bringing Torres up?

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Theo Filippo Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:53 am

luke. wrote:

Kaka11|LFC wrote:Spent £50 Million for 2 goals in over half a season.

Oh, and why are you bringing Torres up?

Because Liverpool fans have to resort to speaking about other teams.

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Post n°11

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Jord Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:02 am

luke. wrote:

Kaka11|LFC wrote:Spent £50 Million for 2 goals in over half a season.

Oh, and why are you bringing Torres up?

Because he's quite shit.

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Post n°12

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:03 am

Neither are particularly outstanding managers but both deserve at least a full season to show what they're capable of.

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Post n°13

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by fluffy_kittens Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:33 am

Hodgson did great things with Fulham and has a bad spell at Liverpool and everyone acts like he's the worst manager of all time. Feel bad for the guy

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Post n°14

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by El_indian Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:34 am

Off topic: you watch wrestling rofl

rofl

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:21 am

El_indian wrote:Off topic: you watch wrestling

rofl

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Demoz Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 am

El_indian wrote:Off topic: you watch wrestling

Off topic: You live in New Zealand Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson 70955

Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson 70955

....

See how idiotic that is.. Neutral

Neutral

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:32 am

Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson Hulk-Hogan-565

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by El_indian Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:41 am

10RLegend wrote:

El_indian wrote:Off topic: you watch wrestling

Off topic: You live in New Zealand ....

See how idiotic that is..

huh?

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Post n°19

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 am

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Hodgson's record as Lpool manager: P31 W13 D9 L9. Dalglish's record since returning as Lpool manager: P30 W15 D6 L9.

Very misleading stats which include the easy-peasy games in the early stages of the EL to boost Roy's score. Well done. Want a cookie?

Let's have a look at how they compare in the Premier League shall we .. ?

Roy - P20 W7 D4 L9
Kenny - P23 W12 D4 L7

Roy point total = 25
Kenny point total = 40

That's a big 15 point gap right there, my friend.

Let us also have a look at goal difference stats.

Under Roy - 23 goals scored, 26 goals conceded = -3 goal difference.

Under Kenny - 39 goals scored, 24 goals conceded = +15 goal difference.

So, in a nutshell .. Nice try RR, but better luck next time.

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Post n°20

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:05 pm

Scott wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Hodgson's record as Lpool manager: P31 W13 D9 L9. Dalglish's record since returning as Lpool manager: P30 W15 D6 L9.

Very misleading stats which include the easy-peasy games in the early stages of the EL to boost Roy's score. Well done. Want a cookie?

Let's have a look at how they compare in the Premier League shall we .. ?

Roy - P20 W7 D4 L9
Kenny - P23 W12 D4 L7

Roy point total = 25
Kenny point total = 40

That's a big 15 point gap right there, my friend.

Let us also have a look at goal difference stats.

Under Roy - 23 goals scored, 26 goals conceded = -3 goal difference.

Under Kenny - 39 goals scored, 24 goals conceded = +15 goal difference.

So, in a nutshell .. Nice try RR, but better luck next time.

On the other hand, Kenneth had the fans backing him from the start whereas Roy Hodgson didn't, Kenneth has spent an awful lot more money under kind and generous owners, whereas Roy had to deal with the evil Hicks and Gillet. Kenneth was also under no pressure for most of the season, whereas poor old Roy had to deal with ownership changes.

Roy also had to deal with the pressure to win the Premier League from Liverpool fans, with Steven Gerrard making stupid claims about how Joseph Cole is just as good, if not better than Lionel Messi, making expectations even more enormous that usual, and he had his best player taken from him 1 week before the end of the transfer window. Besides this, he had two Liverpool legends trying to steal his job for much of the time he was Liverpool manager - even TSO would struggle in those conditions.

When Kenneth took over at Liverpool, they were out of the League Cup, 4th place was impossible, let alone the title, Liverpool were immediately dumped out of the FA Cup and he was given a free pass for that thanks to Howard Webb being scapegoated, as per, and it being his first game, and no-one really expected him to win anything since they'd had 18 months of Liverpool being dogshit. When Roy Hodgson took over, Liverpool fans expected him to win all of those things. Now that the pressure is on Kenneth he's starting to crack as well, talking about referees conspiring about Liverpool and trying to get favouritism from them.

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Post n°21

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:10 pm

I don't know who you're trying to convince, other than yourself.

Maybe you should stick to watching grown men in speedos and tights grappling each other's sweaty bodies.

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by VivaRonaldoLAD Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:11 pm

Scott wrote:I don't know who you're trying to convince, other than yourself.

Maybe you should stick to watching grown men in speedos and tights grappling each other's sweaty bodies.

Hes not trying to convince anyone, he just made a comparison thread.

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Post n°23

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:14 pm

VivaRonaldo wrote:

Scott wrote:I don't know who you're trying to convince, other than yourself.

Maybe you should stick to watching grown men in speedos and tights grappling each other's sweaty bodies.

Hes not trying to convince anyone, he just made a comparison thread.

It's not a comparison thread, he's trying to imply that Kenny and Roy are not far apart in terms of managerial ability.

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Post n°24

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:17 pm

Why don't we compare trophies?

Kenny, as a manager, has won The F.A Cup twice and the League/Premier League 4 times.

What's Roy done?

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:23 pm

Scott wrote:Why don't we compare trophies?

Kenny, as a manager, has won The F.A Cup twice and the League/Premier League 4 times.

What's Roy done?

Great idea Scott, lets compare the competitions they have won.

Roy has won 8 National Leagues and 2 National Cups, and a Super Cup. Hodgson Total: 11
Kenneth has won 4 National Leagues, 2 National Cups, 2 Super Cup equivalents, and a League Cup. Dalglish Total: 9

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Post n°26

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:25 pm

Once again, you manipulate stats to suit your argument. Can't take you seriously. (Not that I ever did.)

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Post n°27

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by ResurrectionRooney Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:46 pm

I'm sorry, but this was your idea.

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Post n°28

Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by El_indian Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:00 pm

Roy did have the backing of the supporters when he began..

And of course Kenny did - his return was like a fairy tale, it's silly to compare their popularity...

Kenny (being a Legendary player & manager at the club) will naturally be more popular.

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:02 pm

Popcorn

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Re: Kenneth Dalglish Vs. Roy Hodgson

by El_indian Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:08 pm

Off topic: currently, who is your favorite WWE wrestler?

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