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    Was Dalglish the right choice?

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    Post by El Jefe Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:55 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Jay wrote:At that time I still think we needed a figure who would re-unite the club, every Liverpool fan loves Kenny, opinions on Rafa were slightly divided, the last thing we needed after weathering the storm of H+G/Roy was for more controversy.

    So 5 months of Kenneth Dalglish, then offer a contract to Benitez.

    Fans would have been in outrage if Kenny didn't get the job after the half season we had.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:06 am

    Jay wrote:
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    So 5 months of Kenneth Dalglish, then offer a contract to Benitez.

    Fans would have been in outrage if Kenny didn't get the job after the half season we had.

    Well yeah, but Liverpool fans are deluded, deluded and stupid, the fans being outraged about something doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Lucas Leiva is your best player these days, and years ago Liverpool fans were outraged that he was still at the club. I read a Liverpool fan arguing that he deserved to be crucified for daring to wear the colours of Liverpool when he is so shit.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:07 am

    Liverpool fans also doubted that Lucas was actually Brazilian.
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    Post by El Jefe Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:09 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Jay wrote:

    Fans would have been in outrage if Kenny didn't get the job after the half season we had.

    Well yeah, but Liverpool fans are deluded, deluded and stupid, the fans being outraged about something doesn't mean it is a bad idea. Lucas Leiva is your best player these days, and years ago Liverpool fans were outraged that he was still at the club. I read a Liverpool fan arguing that he deserved to be crucified for daring to wear the colours of Liverpool when he is so shit.

    Every club has it's fair share of moronic supporters, ours tend to get their voice heard a bit more than other though Neutral
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    Post by Hitchy Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:22 pm

    VivaRonaldo wrote:Liverpool fans also doubted that Lucas was actually Brazilian.
    I still don't think he is
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:07 pm

    Hitchy wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:Liverpool fans also doubted that Lucas was actually Brazilian.
    I still don't think he is
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:49 pm

    I think in the long term it will be proved he was the correct choice, but there is no certainty that everything will workout for him. And well if you want to see Liverpool challenging the likes of Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea and the likes it might take longer than some people think it will, and as ive said its not certain to happen.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:26 am

    How is Carroll not 100% fit yet? He recovered from his injury last season and has had the whole summer to get fit. Maybe if he stop getting drunk every night he'd be in better shape.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:32 am

    of course he was given a full summer window to buy players that complimented the player they buy in january and he has failed to show they are good enough in this level and/or failed to provide a platform team structure for that team to perform in.

    if roy hodgson did these things he would of been sacked, but dalglish past reputation has allow him to brainwash liverpool fans into putting blind faith into him, the sport has passed the old man by long time ago

    only a shambles of a club like liverpool would continue to employ a manager like him and/or not hold their players responsible(rather than blame referees for lack of respect lol).
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:33 am

    Mauro, do you think Roy should have been sacked?
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:35 am

    mauro=beast wrote:of course he was given a full summer window to buy players that complimented the player they buy in january and he has failed to show they are good enough in this level and/or failed to provide a platform team structure for that team to perform in.

    if roy hodgson did these things he would of been sacked, but dalglish past reputation has allow him to brainwash liverpool fans into putting blind faith into him, the sport has passed the old man by long time ago

    only a shambles of a club like liverpool would continue to employ a manager like him and/or not hold their players responsible(rather than blame referees for lack of respect lol).

    Shut the fuck up.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:36 am

    mauro=beast wrote:if roy hodgson did these things he would of been sacked, but dalglish past reputation has allow him to brainwash liverpool fans into putting blind faith into him, the sport has passed the old man by long time ago

    only a shambles of a club like liverpool would continue to employ a manager like him and/or not hold their players responsible(rather than blame referees for lack of respect lol).

    Agreed

    People moaned about Roy Hodgson wanting Carlton Cole and Matt Jarvis when they were skint. Dalglish spends probably a triple of the amount they would have cost on slightly better players and it's all happy days.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:41 am

    Jay wrote:Mauro, do you think Roy should have been sacked?
    probably. and if so, dalglish should be held accountable to the same standards. perhaps mr hodgson is not some genius but i doubt he would of loan the likes of aquilani after the recent preseason and would of sold meireles in favor of playing useless adam and henderson. what manager in world football would of done that?

    and if it wasnt dalglish desicion to sell meireles and that it was because of the board not wanting to give new contract, perhaps they are so short sighted and lacking in football knowledge that they actually beleived adam and henderson were going to fill in those holes

    i think an internal inquiry is in order. more and more it seems to me dalglish trying to transform liverpool into a little british mafia type team for only british players. kick out all the technical foreigners and bring in the kick and rush brits

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    mauro=beast wrote:of course he was given a full summer window to buy players that complimented the player they buy in january and he has failed to show they are good enough in this level and/or failed to provide a platform team structure for that team to perform in.

    if roy hodgson did these things he would of been sacked, but dalglish past reputation has allow him to brainwash liverpool fans into putting blind faith into him, the sport has passed the old man by long time ago

    only a shambles of a club like liverpool would continue to employ a manager like him and/or not hold their players responsible(rather than blame referees for lack of respect lol).

    Shut the fuck up.

    the truth hurts
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:44 am

    mauro=beast wrote:
    Jay wrote:Mauro, do you think Roy should have been sacked?
    probably. and if so, dalglish should be held accountable to the same standards. perhaps mr hodgson is not some genius but i doubt he would of loan the likes of aquilani after the recent preseason and would of sold meireles in favor of playing useless adam and henderson. what manager in world football would of done that?

    and if it wasnt dalglish desicion to sell meireles and that it was because of the board not wanting to give new contract, perhaps they are so short sighted and lacking in football knowledge that they actually beleived adam and henderson were going to fill in those holes

    i think an internal inquiry is in order. more and more it seems to me dalglish trying to transform liverpool into a little british mafia type team for only british players. kick out all the technical foreigners and bring in the kick and rush brits

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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:50 am

    mauro=beast wrote:
    Jay wrote:Mauro, do you think Roy should have been sacked?
    probably. and if so, dalglish should be held accountable to the same standards. perhaps mr hodgson is not some genius but i doubt he would of loan the likes of aquilani after the recent preseason and would of sold meireles in favor of playing useless adam and henderson. what manager in world football would of done that?

    He did.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:53 am

    u also forgot to highlight the further 4 words after that in the sentence
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:56 am

    He still loaned him out after playing him in some pre-season matches. Surely if Roy was so much better he would have seen his talent a mile away?
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:58 am

    definitely if he was still at liverpool during the recent pre season. if he was still only in mindset to loan aquilani after quote straight from liverpool thread "fantastic preseason, should of been a key player" then he and dalgish would be the only 2 managers in the world dumb enough to loan


    unless u are questioning aquilanis quality?
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:05 am

    Both loaned him out, but from people criticising Kenny and supporting Roy, they only mention how Dalglish loaned him, and never bring up how Hodgson did exactly the same thing, that's all I'm saying.
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    Post by Laurencio Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:08 am

    Nothing bad about Dalglish, but he more or less held the club hostage tbh. If anyone else had been appointed the whole "Dalglish could have taken over" mentality would still have been hanging over the club and in the back of the minds of the supporters. The new manager would be under intense pressure from the fans from the get go, a row of bad results and BAM "Give us Dalglish, incompetent board should have appointed King Kenny and not this joker!" Considering the quality of that Liverpool side it's highly doubtful any new manager would have hit the ground running, even Dalglish struggled a little to begin with and had that been anyone else the fans would have turned on them, causing a negative mentality to surround the club.

    He might not have been the "right" person for the long term success of the club, but he was the only viable option at the time. I can only really think of one manager Liverpool fans would have given the same leway and that's the highly unrealistic option of José Mourinho.

    After Liverpool's "transformation" and improved form in the latter half the fans would have been outraged if the board had swapped out Dalglish with a younger manager with new ideas. He was the safe choice, and again, probably the only one the fans would accept aside from Mourinho.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:12 am

    well what i will say is reading old quotes hodgson said his reasoning of loaning him was because he was injured for so long and wanted him to go to a team where he will gain game fitness automatically since he play very little football in previous season and then ended the statement saying that "aquilani should be back and liverpool will see the midfielder they originally bought before the injury"

    but dalglish reasoning was inability to fit system? what system is this? he needs to explain this statement. such a system that is able to fit the inadequacies of henderson and adam? aquilani can do both of these roles, he can run like a headless chook like henderson and can do hollywood passes like adam but even better ones with more regularity. to me it just seems that dalglish was blinded by the money he paid for the overrated duo
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:16 am

    Hodgson could have slowly integrated him into the team if he'd wanted to, and if he had wanted to keep him I'm sure he would have had patience with him. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with what he did, because that is beside the point, all I'm saying is that it's a bit unfair that Kenny gets stick for loaning him out, when Hodgson did the same. I realise some people criticise both, but often I see people only blaming Dalglish for the decision and not mentioning Roy.
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    Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:57 am

    bump
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    Post by Mason Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:58 am

    James wrote:bump

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    Post by David N'Gog Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:58 am

    No.
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    Post by Steadman Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:59 am

    YNWA.
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    Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:01 am

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    I bumped a thread I created, not a random one.

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