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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:18 pm

    MANCHESTER United may have dismissed talk of Wayne Rooney leaving Old Trafford as “nonsense” - but the reality is that the England star may well be heading out of the club in January.

    United’s reaction to newspaper suggestions that Rooney could be on his way was swift.

    “To suggest Wayne Rooney will be sold in January is nonsense,” said a club spokesman.

    But Red Devils officials have been informed Rooney will not sign a new contract, and therefore may have little option other than to cash in on their most valuable asset.


    There has been plenty of speculation about Alex Ferguson’s relationship with his star striker since stories about the 24-year-old’s private life first surfaced at the beginning of last month.

    Rooney appeared to make a direct challenge to Ferguson’s authority on Tuesday after England’s Euro 2012 qualifier with Montenegro, when he went out of his way to contradict the Scot’s claim that he has been suffering from an ankle injury.

    Ferguson has so far avoided any meaningful public discussion about Rooney’s situation but appeared to deliver his own verdict when he left the forward out of his starting line-up for Saturday’s Premier League encounter with West Brom, then brought him on as a substitute with 19 minutes remaining and told him to play on the left wing.

    Although it was interpreted as the final straw by some, Rooney’s relationship with Ferguson soured some time ago.

    Talks over a new contract have stalled and there is no intention from the player’s side to re-open negotiations.

    It will come as a shock to many observers to discover the extent and speed of the breakdown, given it was only last season that Rooney scored 34 goals for his club.

    Even though Rooney’s form this season has been well below his normal high standards - his only goal, against West Ham in August, came from the penalty spot - he remains a crowd favourite.

    United do have the option of sitting tight and hoping for a thaw in relations.

    However, they are acutely aware Rooney’s value will plummet if he does not leave in January and 12 months after that he would be free to sign pre-contract terms with any club on the continent, and leave on a Bosman free transfer in the summer of 2012.

    The Glazer family are unlikely to be keen on that idea, which is why the prospect of Rooney leaving midway through the current campaign has taken hold.


    Although there are plenty of examples that can be used of United prospering after releasing top players - Roy Keane, David Beckham and Ruud van Nistelrooy are obvious examples - with Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Edwin van der Sar and Gary Neville all approaching the end of their careers, it would certainly test the claim of chief executive David Gill that Ferguson has a sizeable transfer budget at his disposal despite the club’s massive debts.

    With most managers in their late 60s, questions would also be asked about the desire to rebuild another team. Yet for Ferguson, it is the type of challenge he relishes and few doubt he is capable of keeping United competitive at the highest level providing he is given sufficient funds.

    If there is an acceptance that Rooney is leaving, Gill will concentrate on getting the highest possible fee, having succeeded in prizing a world record £80million out of Real Madrid for Cristiano Ronaldo last summer.

    Real would doubtless be interested in Rooney, although the same could be said for virtually every top side in Europe, including Manchester City, which would be an unpalatable thought to the Old Trafford faithful.

    There has been some speculation about United interest in Fernando Torres, whose form dip at Liverpool mirrors that of Rooney 35 miles down the East Lancashire Road.

    In the meantime, Dimitar Berbatov, Javier Hernandez and Michael Owen - who missed Saturday’s game with a groin injury - will be asked to shoulder the burden, with Ferguson to decide what role Rooney is to play given his stated position.

    The United boss is due to address the media on Tuesday, prior to his side’s Champions League encounter with Bursaspor at Old Trafford, which should be fascinating.

    In the meantime, the Red Devils need to try and pick themselves up from the loss of another two goal lead - and another two points - that keeps them five points adrift of champions Chelsea.

    “We need to be more angry,” said defender Patrice Evra, whose unfortunate own goal sparked the Baggies recovery after they had fallen behind to first-half strikes from Javier Hernandez and Nani.

    United’s victory hopes disappeared due to a rare mistake from Edwin van der Sar. He dropped Chris Brunt’s steepling cross allowing Somen Tchoyi to tap home as the hosts surrendered a two-goal lead for the third time this season.

    Evra said: “For this to happen once (at Everton) is OK. Then I did the same interview after the Liverpool match and said I hope we never do it again. But we have done.

    “We have two choices - either we accept it or we don’t.

    “We have to show the correct face of Manchester United. We have to show character and personality.”

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    Would love it if he went to Chelsea or better yet Man City Laughing
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:19 pm

    Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:21 pm

    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:23 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:24 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1166330/I-want-stay-Manchester-United-forever-reveals-Rooney.html
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:26 pm

    I'm not sure I've seen such a splendid relationship go sour so quickly. He was Fergie's golden boy not more than 3 months ago. Looked like he'd be a Man Utd player for the rest of his career. It's all deteriorated. It's shocking.
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    Post by Royal Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:28 pm

    It will be a case of him wanting to go to Real but they won't want him, and Chelsea wanting him but he won't want to go. According to Sky Sports, Real Madrid have said they aren't interested as they already have enough forwards, and Rooney has said in the past that he doesn't fancy London.

    City or Barca it is then. Neutral
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:30 pm

    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.

    Fuck, what a mess.

    Who are you's looking to replace him with if he goes?
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:30 pm

    None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:31 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.

    Fuck, what a mess.

    Who are you's looking to replace him with if he goes?

    We wont, we'll probably leave it how it is, Chicharito to step up, and it probably wont work, we wont have enough class players to challenge for anything, then we'll slip out of top four, the Rooney money wont be spent but put towards debts that wont be paid fully anyway, and we'll drop, become mid table for a while, maybe worse until we are sold and can start again.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:32 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.

    He can play on the left or right can't he?
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:32 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.

    Fuck, what a mess.

    Who are you's looking to replace him with if he goes?

    Who says he needs to be replaced? What's there to replace at this point? They're in fourth with virtually no contribution from him thus far. Man Utd's problem right now is closing out games, which has nothing to do with Rooney.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:33 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    menalawyerguy wrote:None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.

    He can play on the left or right can't he?

    I'd rather have Anelka and Malouda at this point.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:33 pm

    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.

    Fuck, what a mess.

    Who are you's looking to replace him with if he goes?

    We wont, we'll probably leave it how it is, Chicharito to step up, and it probably wont work, we wont have enough class players to challenge for anything, then we'll slip out of top four, the Rooney money wont be spent but put towards debts that wont be paid fully anyway, and we'll drop, become mid table for a while, maybe worse until we are sold and can start again.

    Doubt it mate. Ferguson will no doubt find a replacement even if it's a free he will bring one in. Don't think he's ever let a player go without replacing them has he?
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    Post by Royal Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:34 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.
    If anyone puts an offer in Chelsea are probably the most likely. Ancelotti thinks he's the best player in the world for some reason (well, he did in February anyway) and they'll need to replace Drogba sooner or later, this would be the perfect chance.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:36 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:Don't think he's ever let a player go without replacing them has he?


    You seriously can't think of one?

    Here's a hint: his name rhymes with Cronaldo


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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:36 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Called it a while ago, if he wants to leave he can fuck off.

    Hows all this happened? Thought Rooney loved you's lot.

    His whole life has become a mess, and he's let it involve with his football, and Fergie tried to buy him time, Rooney threw it back in his face, Rooney has been very stupid in the time that he was the one that fucked a whore, not anyone else, the first real challenge of his loyalty, and it's looking like he will fail.

    Wherever he goes, good luck to him.

    Fuck, what a mess.

    Who are you's looking to replace him with if he goes?

    We wont, we'll probably leave it how it is, Chicharito to step up, and it probably wont work, we wont have enough class players to challenge for anything, then we'll slip out of top four, the Rooney money wont be spent but put towards debts that wont be paid fully anyway, and we'll drop, become mid table for a while, maybe worse until we are sold and can start again.

    Doubt it mate. Ferguson will no doubt find a replacement even if it's a free he will bring one in. Don't think he's ever let a player go without replacing him has he?

    Ferguson, as much as he's done for this club, and as great as he has been for us, I reckon he'll leave us in a total mess.

    Since 07/08 we've lost Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney will be next, every year our team has got worse, and now the likes of Scholes and Giggs will be retiring, it will be even more worse, we have some good young players, but people like Darron Gibson just don't cut it, Fergie hasn't got enough time to build again how he did to get our 07/08 team, that took a lot of time and work.
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    Post by Royal Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:37 pm

    Anderson to step up. shifty
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:37 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
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    menalawyerguy wrote:None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.

    He can play on the left or right can't he?

    I'd rather have Anelka and Malouda at this point.

    Yeah me to but the option to bring in a player of Rooney's class would be to big of an opportunity to turn down for Chelsea. Plus it would weaken their rivals.
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    Anderson couldn't score in a brothel.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:39 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    menalawyerguy wrote:None of those teams make any sense at all. What the fuck is Real Madrid going to do with him? Where's Barca going to put him? These teams are short on attacking talent, are they? Even Chelsea doesn't have anywhere for him. Drogba looks like he's set to play into his 50s.

    He can play on the left or right can't he?

    I'd rather have Anelka and Malouda at this point.

    Yeah me to but the option to bring in a player of Rooney's class would be to big of an opportunity to turn down for Chelsea. Plus it would weaken their rivals.

    Depends on how much they pay for him. If they pay enough for Fergie to reinvest in quality players right away, then it might actually strengthen Man Utd, especially considering the zero contribution they are getting from Rooney at present.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:39 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:Don't think he's ever let a player go without replacing them has he?


    You seriously can't think of one?

    Here's a hint: his name rhymes with Cronaldo

    Valencia? Not on par but still a replacement nonetheless.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:40 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:Don't think he's ever let a player go without replacing them has he?


    You seriously can't think of one?

    Here's a hint: his name rhymes with Cronaldo

    Valencia? Not on par but still a replacement nonetheless.

    Who'd they replace Tevez with?
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:41 pm

    Ronaldo and Tevez replaced by Owen and Valencia.

    rofl
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:42 pm

    Was it Berbatov?

    Refresh my memory, which happened first: Berbatov joined or Tevez left?
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    Post by Guest Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:43 pm

    Berbatov joined, then Tevez was being left on the bench, so he left.

    In 08/09 we had Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov. Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:45 pm

    I understand why he let Ronaldo go. Ronaldo wanted to go to Real Madrid and if somebody offers you 80M for a player, there's only one answer: YES!

    But Tevez goes for free? What happened there?
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    We never owned Tevez.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:47 pm

    Really? scratch I thought you paid 9m for him?
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    He was owned by that guy, we paid him money to keep him here for two years, basically as a loan, and City paid that guy 25 million to buy him I think.

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