Future of England

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Jord wrote:Wouldn't Smalling be better used in the centre? I mean there really isn't anything wrong with Kelly and I'm sure he'll show that once gets his chance(rumors were that he was going to be called up before he got his little knock in the Bolton match). Like I said though, all in due time and we'll see when 2014 comes.

I don't think so, Ferdinand is still better. There might not be anything wrong with Kelly, but Smalling would be preferable. Playing with 3 central defenders offers a massive advantage when defending set pieces, particularly when you aren't employing a large forward.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Sterling's better than everyone tbf.

He has never played for Liverpool and he should never play for England, no matter how good he is.

He has lived in England for 15 years, why not?

Because he isn't English.

Mal wrote:

Jord wrote:Wouldn't Smalling be better used in the centre? I mean there really isn't anything wrong with Kelly and I'm sure he'll show that once gets his chance(rumors were that he was going to be called up before he got his little knock in the Bolton match). Like I said though, all in due time and we'll see when 2014 comes.

You do realise he's being biased?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:I'd say move Smalling to centre half and put Richards right back, dropping Jones, that being the only formation change, Smalling seems much more set to handling international football than Jones, a lot calmer in a sense, Walcott is actually a good choice, knowing Rooney he'll drop into the hole a lot and what better 'winger' is there to tuck in and play as an inside forward, Rooney to supply him passes to score.

The pairing of Cleverley and is a fantastic one because they share many important aspects but differ if other important ones, both great passers and both very mobile, Wilshere's got the silkier touch but Cleverley has the movement and instinct to bomb forward from midfield, not only to score but assist too, so the 1-2s where Cleverley lays off a simple ball to Wilshere, darts forward, Wilshere controls it and moves away from any marker simultaneous instantly creating a passing lane to get it back to Cleverley, he weights the pass back brilliantly to Cleverly who is in a dangerous position, then Cleverly score and the crowd go wild.

I don't rate Carrick highly but he'll do.

You could try Walcott on the left and Downing on the right too.

Downing is shit, why would I have him over Young?

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Jord wrote:Wouldn't Smalling be better used in the centre? I mean there really isn't anything wrong with Kelly and I'm sure he'll show that once gets his chance(rumors were that he was going to be called up before he got his little knock in the Bolton match). Like I said though, all in due time and we'll see when 2014 comes.

I don't think so, Ferdinand is still better. There might not be anything wrong with Kelly, but Smalling would be preferable. Playing with 3 central defenders offers a massive advantage when defending set pieces, particularly when you aren't employing a large forward.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Sterling's better than everyone tbf.

He has never played for Liverpool and he should never play for England, no matter how good he is.

He has lived in England for 15 years, why not?

Because he isn't English.

Currently the holder of a British passport, has an English parent and is eligible for the English national team.

Forest wrote:Ghana are better?

Are they fuck.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Jord wrote:Wouldn't Smalling be better used in the centre? I mean there really isn't anything wrong with Kelly and I'm sure he'll show that once gets his chance(rumors were that he was going to be called up before he got his little knock in the Bolton match). Like I said though, all in due time and we'll see when 2014 comes.

I don't think so, Ferdinand is still better. There might not be anything wrong with Kelly, but Smalling would be preferable. Playing with 3 central defenders offers a massive advantage when defending set pieces, particularly when you aren't employing a large forward.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

He has never played for Liverpool and he should never play for England, no matter how good he is.

He has lived in England for 15 years, why not?

Because he isn't English.

Currently the holder of a British passport, has an English parent and is eligible for the English national team.

He is a Jamaican, he should play for Jamaica, that's what his mother wants, if you want to bring parentage into it. Fucking Manuel Almunia is eligible for a British Passport and to play for any of the home nations , does that make him English?

Forest wrote:Ghana are better?

Are they fuck.

Jay wrote:

Flanagan Kelly Wisdom Robinson
Dunn Coady Shelvey
Ngoo Morgan Sterling

Would be my outfield in about 5 years time

SBSP wrote:

Jay wrote:

Flanagan Kelly Wisdom Robinson
Dunn Coady Shelvey
Ngoo Morgan Sterling

Would be my outfield in about 5 years time

So you'd rather England not qualify for anything?

SBSP wrote:

Jay wrote:

Flanagan Kelly Wisdom Robinson
Dunn Coady Shelvey
Ngoo Morgan Sterling

Would be my outfield in about 5 years time

So you'd rather England not qualify for anything?

The Bat-Man wrote:

Forest wrote:Ghana are better?

Are they fuck.

Well they got farther than England in the World Cup.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Jord wrote:Wouldn't Smalling be better used in the centre? I mean there really isn't anything wrong with Kelly and I'm sure he'll show that once gets his chance(rumors were that he was going to be called up before he got his little knock in the Bolton match). Like I said though, all in due time and we'll see when 2014 comes.

I don't think so, Ferdinand is still better. There might not be anything wrong with Kelly, but Smalling would be preferable. Playing with 3 central defenders offers a massive advantage when defending set pieces, particularly when you aren't employing a large forward.

Dan wrote:

He has lived in England for 15 years, why not?

Because he isn't English.

Currently the holder of a British passport, has an English parent and is eligible for the English national team.

He is a Jamaican, he should play for Jamaica, that's what his mother wants, if you want to bring parentage into it. Fucking Manuel Almunia is eligible for a British Passport and to play for any of the home nations , does that make him English?

Yes. If that is what he believes he is.

And, I don't believe that nationality is defined by 'what a parent wants'. I'm saying that his father is English. Therefore, Sterling has English parentage. Therefore, he himself is English.

Please tell me you aren't one of these morons that define nationality as place of birth and nothing else? Because surely, an intellectual like wouldn't be that retarded?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Of course, Welbeck, I knew I was forgetting someone

Hart

Smalling Ferdinand Jones Cole

Cleverley Carrick Wilshere

Welbeck Rooney Young

Golden.

Dan wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Jay wrote:

Flanagan Kelly Wisdom Robinson
Dunn Coady Shelvey
Ngoo Morgan Sterling

Would be my outfield in about 5 years time

So you'd rather England not qualify for anything?

Yes.

Those players would then be fresh and ready to lead us to world domination.

JMB_94 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Of course, Welbeck, I knew I was forgetting someone

Hart

Smalling Ferdinand Jones Cole

Cleverley Carrick Wilshere

Welbeck Rooney Young

Golden.

Welbeck on the wing?

That's a great team though, and all of them playing with each other week-in-week out. I like this Man United chemistry idea.

Forest wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Forest wrote:Ghana are better?

Are they fuck.

Well they got farther than England in the World Cup.

That means nothing. The rankings put us as the 4th best, and that's what truly matters.

Greece won 2004 but they were never the best team in Europe, not a chance.

Cam wrote:I think Henderson could make the step up..

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
I don't think so, Ferdinand is still better. There might not be anything wrong with Kelly, but Smalling would be preferable. Playing with 3 central defenders offers a massive advantage when defending set pieces, particularly when you aren't employing a large forward.

Because he isn't English.

Currently the holder of a British passport, has an English parent and is eligible for the English national team.

He is a Jamaican, he should play for Jamaica, that's what his mother wants, if you want to bring parentage into it. Fucking Manuel Almunia is eligible for a British Passport and to play for any of the home nations , does that make him English?

Yes. If that is what he believes he is.

And, I don't believe that nationality is defined by 'what a parent wants'. I'm saying that his father is English. Therefore, Sterling has English parentage. Therefore, he himself is English.

Please tell me you aren't one of these morons that define nationality as place of birth and nothing else? Because surely, an intellectual like wouldn't be that retarded?

What if he just says he is because he has no chance of making it into the Spanish team? We both know what will happen with this Sterling guy, if he turns out to be any good he'll shun the country of his birth, and if he turns out to be crap he'll go any play for Jamaica.

Nationality isn't defined solely by place of birth, but in sport it should be, because footballers whore themselves around, and you end up with people like Andy Townsend captaining Ireland, and Tony Cascarino inventing imaginary relatives, all because they're too crap to play for their country of birth, or arseholes like that Eoin Morgan, not playing for Ireland and playing for England instead because England pay him more.