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    BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League

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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:00 am

    Mutant123 wrote:
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    Trabzonspor finished runners up but have already been knocked out. Hardly fair to stick them back in.

    But if Fenerbache do end up getting last season results removed, Trabzonspor would be champions.

    I know. I said it would be unfair to put them back in after getting eliminated, it could still happen.

    Why would it be unfair? Don't Turkish champions qualify automatically so if Trabzonspor are awarded the championship they should have their place.

    They do automaically qualify but they have been knocked out. It's unfair on the teams who Trabzonspor knocked out in the qualifiers (if they did).

    It isn't unfair because whoever qualified from that part of qualifying will still have their Champions League place. It isn't Trabzonspors fault they where cheated out of a title and a group stage place, i'm sure they didn't want to play the qualifiers.
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    Post by Demba Ba Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:02 am

    I heard that Liverpool could possibly benefit from this and gain a Champions League spot instead. This has suddenly become a lot more interesting.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:02 am

    cheesy wrote:I heard that Liverpool could possibly benefit from this and gain a Champions League spot instead. This has suddenly become a lot more interesting.

    Why would that happen? Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:04 am

    I just said why as they are the highest ranked team in the coefficient not in the CL.
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    Post by Harrold Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:05 am

    James wrote:
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    But if Fenerbache do end up getting last season results removed, Trabzonspor would be champions.

    I know. I said it would be unfair to put them back in after getting eliminated, it could still happen.

    Why would it be unfair? Don't Turkish champions qualify automatically so if Trabzonspor are awarded the championship they should have their place.

    They do automaically qualify but they have been knocked out. It's unfair on the teams who Trabzonspor knocked out in the qualifiers (if they did).

    It isn't unfair because whoever qualified from that part of qualifying will still have their Champions League place. It isn't Trabzonspors fault they where cheated out of a title and a group stage place, i'm sure they didn't want to play the qualifiers.

    Trabzonspor may or may not have knocked other teams out prior to themselves getting knocked out. Those teams who got knocked out were knocked out by a team who shouldn't have been there. They may well have got an easier team if UEFA pulled their fingers out and sorted all out pre-qualifying.

    This conversation is pointless it's all hypothetical at the moment. UEFA will give it to someone undeserving rather than Trabzonspor.
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    Post by Demba Ba Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:06 am

    Cam wrote:
    cheesy wrote:I heard that Liverpool could possibly benefit from this and gain a Champions League spot instead. This has suddenly become a lot more interesting.

    Why would that happen? Neutral

    Because the team with the highest co-efficient that are not in the Champions League would gain entry... apparently. I'm not 100% if that is correct though. A team from Turkey may end up getting it.
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    Post by RafaVDV Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:06 am

    I don't see how they could possibly be allowed to get a CL place without qualifying. Give it to Trabz or Bursaspor.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:07 am

    I really doubt a team in Turkey are going to get it as more Turkish teams are being investigated.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:08 am

    Surely Spurs should get it over Liverpool? If Spurs throw the game and lose 6-0 to Hearts, wouldn't they get the spot?
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:09 am

    cheesy wrote:
    Cam wrote:
    cheesy wrote:I heard that Liverpool could possibly benefit from this and gain a Champions League spot instead. This has suddenly become a lot more interesting.

    Why would that happen? Neutral

    Because the team with the highest co-efficient that are not in the Champions League would gain entry... apparently. I'm not 100% if that is correct though. A team from Turkey may end up getting it.
    I'm not buying it. Wishful Twitter thinking, methinks. think
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    Post by Demba Ba Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:09 am

    xPeterLFC95 wrote:Surely Spurs should get it over Liverpool? If Spurs throw the game and lose 6-0 to Hearts, wouldn't they get the spot?

    The co-efficient seems to be valued over the finishing places, which I disagree with.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:10 am

    cheesy wrote:
    xPeterLFC95 wrote:Surely Spurs should get it over Liverpool? If Spurs throw the game and lose 6-0 to Hearts, wouldn't they get the spot?

    The co-efficient seems to be valued over the finishing places, which I disagree with.
    Coefficient? Explain... Wink
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:11 am

    Uefa indicating statement at 7.30pm to clarify the Fenerbahce situation
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:12 am

    alexhamid wrote:Uefa indicating statement at 7.30pm to clarify the Fenerbahce situation
    "Liverpool will not be in the Champions League." I broke it to you early. Basketball
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    Post by Mal Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:14 am

    The highest ranked team in qualifying is rumoured to take their place.

    Statement at half 7. UEFA haven't decided on it yet.


    P.S: Why do you put capitals on every word in the title? Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:15 am

    Lux wrote:
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    mauro=beast wrote:good

    Scouser_Dave wrote:Yet Ac Milan get away with it and win the tournament BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 58503

    when did milan match fix? un-toward relationship with referee is not evidence match fix

    So why were they docked points then?

    for having unprofessional relationship with referee adminstrators and trying to influence the choice of certain referees to take their matches

    no evidence was ever found of legitimate match fixing, in internet, database, police and phone records

    your media enjoys overlooking this fact

    legit match fixing only happens in serie b Smile

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    the screeching sound of facts disappoints you my friend?
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    Post by Grenade Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:18 am

    Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:20 am

    grenade187 wrote:Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
    I fail to see how we could be the highest ranked team when we came sixth.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:20 am

    Juventus aren't even in the top 25
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:21 am

    Mal wrote:The highest ranked team in qualifying is rumoured to take their place.

    Statement at half 7. UEFA haven't decided on it yet.


    P.S: Why do you put capitals on every word in the title? Neutral

    I didn't, Copied it from an article.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:22 am

    xPeterLFC95 wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
    I fail to see how we could be the highest ranked team when we came sixth.

    We're 9th in the rankings

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    Post by Grenade Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:24 am

    xPeterLFC95 wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
    I fail to see how we could be the highest ranked team when we came sixth.

    The ratings are fucked up like that. Holland are ranked #1 national team in the world at the moment Laughing
    I think its because of your results and stuff against big teams and past european success. Its based on highest ranked non champions league qualifying team. Well that's the theory.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:24 am

    They're saying now that the highest rated eliminated team will take Fener's place.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:25 am

    That's annoying, fucking Arsenal will get it whatever happens then.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:26 am

    Rei Andros wrote:They're saying now that the highest rated eliminated team will take Fener's place.
    That seems much more logical.
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    Post by The Zlatan Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:26 am

    That seems like a fair and logical conclusion.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:28 am

    xPeterLFC95 wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
    I fail to see how we could be the highest ranked team when we came sixth.

    It is based on European Results over the last 5 years, both Liverpool's and the results of clubs from the Premier League. You have been feeding off of our success for years.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:28 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    xPeterLFC95 wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Are Juventus ranked higher than Liverpool ? I read that they may put the highest ranked Europa league team in the CL spot and the highest non EU qualifying team in the Europa place BREAKING NEWS: Fenerbahce Removed From UEFA Champions League - Page 2 214775
    I fail to see how we could be the highest ranked team when we came sixth.

    It is based on European Results over the last 5 years, both Liverpool's and the results of clubs from the Premier League. You have been feeding off of our success for years.
    Yes, we get the point, you hate Liverpool.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:31 am

    I don't hate any Football Club.
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    Post by bcfcben Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:31 am

    It's obvious Birmingham are going to take their place in the Champions League Rolling Eyes

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