Official Arsenal FC Thread

arsenalap11 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:January is even worse, forget about this season as far as wholesale changes go, you're not going to win the Title. Bring in a left back and maybe a central midfielder, consolidate 4th, put the money in a high interest savings account, and rebuild next summer.

We need a CB, LB and an attacking player if we're going to get 4th. I think we'll sign a CB and an attacking player this week, and a LB in Jan.

You have a number of good, if not exceptional centre halves already, there's only Chelsea, United and possibly City who have better defences than you. Your defence is good enough for what you want to achieve so long as you don't have more catastrophic luck. There is always the option to push Song back to centre back if Frimpong is good enough to take his role in the centre of the park.

The Bat-Man wrote:2 signings and we'll be good to go to get top 4, top 3 if we're lucky and a minor trophy maybe.

You're already more than good enough to win a minor trophy, you just need the luck to do it. Go and read my winning article in the writing competition thread.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:I'm praying that we buy: Moutinho, Baines, Subotic and Hazard. If we do we're title contenders imo.

_Szczesny_
_Sagna_Subotic_Vermaelen_Baines_
_Hazard_Song_Moutinho_Gervinho_
_Walcott_Van Persie_

That team could win the league.

Won't happen, forget it. You can't win the League by dropping 5 players into a team during the season and expecting it to work out. With that many changes you'd be lucky to get 4th, and the prices you'd pay for them, at this stage, would be huge.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

justaddfinesse wrote:4-4-2.. never happen.

We desperately need a formation change.

Why?

I wasn't referring to this season, but in 1-2 seasons when the new team is fully gelled, I think we could.
And we do 4-3-3 is too basic, and we always do the same 4-4-2 gives us more width and pace, and it saves us replacing Fabregas

You could challenge for it, but in a couple of years United will have a team that can bitchslap that one into oblivion. I don't know why you're dumping Wilshere for your team of the future anyway, he's the one bright spark at Arsenal from last season.

Steadman wrote:Our team will probably be this tomorrow.

Szczesny
Jenkinson - Song - Vermaelen - Sagna
Ramsey - Frimpong
Walcott - Rosicky/Lansbury - Arshavin
van Persie

Or stick Traore in and move Sagna, either way, it's not looking to good.

Definitely have Traore over Jenkinson then switch him around with Sagna. If Rosicky's fit he should definitely start over Lansbury along with Gevinho starting over Walcott, then bring him on off the bench where he's best effective.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:January is even worse, forget about this season as far as wholesale changes go, you're not going to win the Title. Bring in a left back and maybe a central midfielder, consolidate 4th, put the money in a high interest savings account, and rebuild next summer.

We need a CB, LB and an attacking player if we're going to get 4th. I think we'll sign a CB and an attacking player this week, and a LB in Jan.

You have a number of good, if not exceptional centre halves already, there's only Chelsea, United and possibly City who have better defences than you. Your defence is good enough for what you want to achieve so long as you don't have more catastrophic luck. There is always the option to push Song back to centre back if Frimpong is good enough to take his role in the centre of the park.

The Bat-Man wrote:2 signings and we'll be good to go to get top 4, top 3 if we're lucky and a minor trophy maybe.

You're already more than good enough to win a minor trophy, you just need the luck to do it. Go and read my winning article in the writing competition thread.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:I'm praying that we buy: Moutinho, Baines, Subotic and Hazard. If we do we're title contenders imo.

_Szczesny_
_Sagna_Subotic_Vermaelen_Baines_
_Hazard_Song_Moutinho_Gervinho_
_Walcott_Van Persie_

That team could win the league.

Won't happen, forget it. You can't win the League by dropping 5 players into a team during the season and expecting it to work out. With that many changes you'd be lucky to get 4th, and the prices you'd pay for them, at this stage, would be huge.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

justaddfinesse wrote:4-4-2.. never happen.

We desperately need a formation change.

Why?

I wasn't referring to this season, but in 1-2 seasons when the new team is fully gelled, I think we could.
And we do 4-3-3 is too basic, and we always do the same 4-4-2 gives us more width and pace, and it saves us replacing Fabregas

You could challenge for it, but in a couple of years United will have a team that can bitchslap that one into oblivion. I don't know why you're dumping Wilshere for your team of the future anyway, he's the one bright spark at Arsenal from last season.

We much more youth players coming through, and we'll buy more either way by then.
And Wilshere's injury could be very serious

How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

Vermaelen is good all the time you mad man

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

Vermaelen is good all the time you mad man

Okay.. where did I say otherwise?

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:January is even worse, forget about this season as far as wholesale changes go, you're not going to win the Title. Bring in a left back and maybe a central midfielder, consolidate 4th, put the money in a high interest savings account, and rebuild next summer.

We need a CB, LB and an attacking player if we're going to get 4th. I think we'll sign a CB and an attacking player this week, and a LB in Jan.

You have a number of good, if not exceptional centre halves already, there's only Chelsea, United and possibly City who have better defences than you. Your defence is good enough for what you want to achieve so long as you don't have more catastrophic luck. There is always the option to push Song back to centre back if Frimpong is good enough to take his role in the centre of the park.

The Bat-Man wrote:2 signings and we'll be good to go to get top 4, top 3 if we're lucky and a minor trophy maybe.

You're already more than good enough to win a minor trophy, you just need the luck to do it. Go and read my winning article in the writing competition thread.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:I'm praying that we buy: Moutinho, Baines, Subotic and Hazard. If we do we're title contenders imo.

_Szczesny_
_Sagna_Subotic_Vermaelen_Baines_
_Hazard_Song_Moutinho_Gervinho_
_Walcott_Van Persie_

That team could win the league.

Won't happen, forget it. You can't win the League by dropping 5 players into a team during the season and expecting it to work out. With that many changes you'd be lucky to get 4th, and the prices you'd pay for them, at this stage, would be huge.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:
We desperately need a formation change.

Why?

I wasn't referring to this season, but in 1-2 seasons when the new team is fully gelled, I think we could.
And we do 4-3-3 is too basic, and we always do the same 4-4-2 gives us more width and pace, and it saves us replacing Fabregas

You could challenge for it, but in a couple of years United will have a team that can bitchslap that one into oblivion. I don't know why you're dumping Wilshere for your team of the future anyway, he's the one bright spark at Arsenal from last season.

We much more youth players coming through, and we'll buy more either way by then.
And Wilshere's injury could be very serious

Arsenal have had these supposedly amazing kids coming through for years, if they become top class they'll move to City or Barcelona. Besides that, our young players are better than yours. I don't think Wilshere will stick around much longer, and he certainly won't if you drop him for Moutinho because you've got this obsession with 4-4-2.

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

It's good enough because it's better than all but 3 teams in the Premier League, and your ambition is to finish fourth.

arsenalap11 wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

Vermaelen is good all the time you mad man

Okay.. where did I say otherwise?

"2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit"
Either you're saying Vermaelen is a piece of shit or inconsistent as *

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

Vermaelen is good all the time you mad man

Okay.. where did I say otherwise?

"2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit"
Either you're saying Vermaelen is a piece of shit or inconsistent as *

No idea how you got that from my post

2 Good enough to start = Vermaelen and Koscielny
Djourou = Good on his day
Squillaci = Piece of shit

What do you lads think about your chances this season?

Scholesy wrote:What do you lads think about your chances this season?

Ask us in a week

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:January is even worse, forget about this season as far as wholesale changes go, you're not going to win the Title. Bring in a left back and maybe a central midfielder, consolidate 4th, put the money in a high interest savings account, and rebuild next summer.

We need a CB, LB and an attacking player if we're going to get 4th. I think we'll sign a CB and an attacking player this week, and a LB in Jan.

You have a number of good, if not exceptional centre halves already, there's only Chelsea, United and possibly City who have better defences than you. Your defence is good enough for what you want to achieve so long as you don't have more catastrophic luck. There is always the option to push Song back to centre back if Frimpong is good enough to take his role in the centre of the park.

The Bat-Man wrote:2 signings and we'll be good to go to get top 4, top 3 if we're lucky and a minor trophy maybe.

You're already more than good enough to win a minor trophy, you just need the luck to do it. Go and read my winning article in the writing competition thread.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Won't happen, forget it. You can't win the League by dropping 5 players into a team during the season and expecting it to work out. With that many changes you'd be lucky to get 4th, and the prices you'd pay for them, at this stage, would be huge.

Why?

I wasn't referring to this season, but in 1-2 seasons when the new team is fully gelled, I think we could.
And we do 4-3-3 is too basic, and we always do the same 4-4-2 gives us more width and pace, and it saves us replacing Fabregas

You could challenge for it, but in a couple of years United will have a team that can bitchslap that one into oblivion. I don't know why you're dumping Wilshere for your team of the future anyway, he's the one bright spark at Arsenal from last season.

We much more youth players coming through, and we'll buy more either way by then.
And Wilshere's injury could be very serious

Arsenal have had these supposedly amazing kids coming through for years, if they become top class they'll move to City or Barcelona. Besides that, our young players are better than yours. I don't think Wilshere will stick around much longer, and he certainly won't if you drop him for Moutinho because you've got this obsession with 4-4-2.

arsenalap11 wrote:How is our defence good enough

We have 2 CB's good enough to start, 1 who can be good on his day, and 1 piece of shit. We need 1 more, if not to start over Koscielny, at least be 3rd choice.

And Song isn't a good CB because he's too rash.

It's good enough because it's better than all but 3 teams in the Premier League, and your ambition is to finish fourth.

How are your youth players better?
The amount of players we have coming through, Campbell, Szczesny, Miquel, Ramsey, Wilshere, could go on......
Wilshere, who has supported Arsenal since ever, and who has played for them since he was about 7 I think not.
And to say if they become top class they'll leave to Manchester City or Barcelona is a ludicrous statement to make, first of all you don't know how dominant either 3 of the parties involved will be...........

And also, just because I want us to play 4-4-2 it doesn't mean we will its not down to me

Double Post my bad

Scholesy wrote:What do you lads think about your chances this season?

As the other guy said ask me in a week

Will do.

Quadruple post.

Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

kyro7 wrote:Quadruple post.

Miquel is Catalan therefore instantly the best player in Premier League though.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:How are your youth players better?
The amount of players we have coming through, Campbell, Szczesny, Miquel, Ramsey, Wilshere, could go on......
Wilshere, who has supported Arsenal since ever, and who has played for them since he was about 7 I think not.
And to say if they become top class they'll leave to Manchester City or Barcelona is a ludicrous statement to make, first of all you don't know how dominant either 3 of the parties involved will be...........

Because we have the Youth players you wanted to sign, the likes of Smalling and Jones, along with relatively young players such as Hernandez, Anderson, Cleverely, Welbeck, Rafael, Fabio, de Gea, Evans I could go on a s well. You have a few young players coming through, yeah, but unlike ours, most of yours are unproven whereas ours are highly trophied, and many of them have reached European Finals or been the best players in their loan clubs. People often talk about a lack of experience with Wenger's boys, ours have got that, and they've got it in spades.

I'd be surprised if Wilshere sticks around, since you sold Fabregas and Nasri you can't pretend you're a big club any more, and a player like Wilshere will want to play for a big club.

19Jones19v wrote:

Steadman wrote:Our team will probably be this tomorrow.

Szczesny
Jenkinson - Song - Vermaelen - Sagna
Ramsey - Frimpong
Walcott - Rosicky/Lansbury - Arshavin
van Persie

Or stick Traore in and move Sagna, either way, it's not looking to good.

Definitely have Traore over Jenkinson then switch him around with Sagna. If Rosicky's fit he should definitely start over Lansbury along with Gevinho starting over Walcott, then bring him on off the bench where he's best effective.

That's not the team I would start, I think Arsene will field it though.

arsenalap11 wrote:Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

Vermaelen's not better than Agger or King but luckily for you, they're normally injured. A better comparison would be this

Carragher < Vermaelen
Skrtel = Koscielny
Coates < Djourou
Wilson < Squillaci

and

Dawson < Vermaelen
Gallas = Koscielny
Kaboul < Djourou
Bassong < Squillaci

Add Song in there as well and it looks even more favourable.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:How are your youth players better?
The amount of players we have coming through, Campbell, Szczesny, Miquel, Ramsey, Wilshere, could go on......
Wilshere, who has supported Arsenal since ever, and who has played for them since he was about 7 I think not.
And to say if they become top class they'll leave to Manchester City or Barcelona is a ludicrous statement to make, first of all you don't know how dominant either 3 of the parties involved will be...........

Because we have the Youth players you wanted to sign, the likes of Smalling and Jones, along with relatively young players such as Hernandez, Anderson, Cleverely, Welbeck, Rafael, Fabio, de Gea, Evans I could go on a s well. You have a few young players coming through, yeah, but unlike ours, most of yours are unproven whereas ours are highly trophied, and many of them have reached European Finals or been the best players in their loan clubs. People often talk about a lack of experience with Wenger's boys, ours have got that, and they've got it in spades.

I'd be surprised if Wilshere sticks around, since you sold Fabregas and Nasri you can't pretend you're a big club any more, and a player like Wilshere will want to play for a big club.

2 players don't mean we are not a big club and the fact the transfer window isn't closed and Wenger can get replacements, I think you can my jist.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

Vermaelen's not better than Agger or King but luckily for you, they're normally injured. A better comparison would be this

Carragher < Vermaelen
Skrtel = Koscielny
Coates < Djourou
Wilson < Squillaci

and

Dawson < Vermaelen
Gallas = Koscielny
Kaboul < Djourou
Bassong < Squillaci

Add Song in there as well and it looks even more favourable.

Vermaelen is better than Agger and King, even Liverpool and Tottenham fans would admit that........

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:How are your youth players better?
The amount of players we have coming through, Campbell, Szczesny, Miquel, Ramsey, Wilshere, could go on......
Wilshere, who has supported Arsenal since ever, and who has played for them since he was about 7 I think not.
And to say if they become top class they'll leave to Manchester City or Barcelona is a ludicrous statement to make, first of all you don't know how dominant either 3 of the parties involved will be...........

Because we have the Youth players you wanted to sign, the likes of Smalling and Jones, along with relatively young players such as Hernandez, Anderson, Cleverely, Welbeck, Rafael, Fabio, de Gea, Evans I could go on a s well. You have a few young players coming through, yeah, but unlike ours, most of yours are unproven whereas ours are highly trophied, and many of them have reached European Finals or been the best players in their loan clubs. People often talk about a lack of experience with Wenger's boys, ours have got that, and they've got it in spades.

I'd be surprised if Wilshere sticks around, since you sold Fabregas and Nasri you can't pretend you're a big club any more, and a player like Wilshere will want to play for a big club.

2 players don't mean we are not a big club and the fact the transfer window isn't closed and Wenger can get replacements, I think you can my jist.

Arsene Wenger said that if you sell Nasri and Fabregas you can't pretend you are a big club any more. Arsene knows.

AFC4EVA2012 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

Vermaelen's not better than Agger or King but luckily for you, they're normally injured. A better comparison would be this

Carragher < Vermaelen
Skrtel = Koscielny
Coates < Djourou
Wilson < Squillaci

and

Dawson < Vermaelen
Gallas = Koscielny
Kaboul < Djourou
Bassong < Squillaci

Add Song in there as well and it looks even more favourable.

Vermaelen is better than Agger and King, even Liverpool and Tottenham fans would admit that........

Is he fuck, they are top top players, Agger and King, when they are fit they are certainly better than Vermaelen.

i challenge you to a poll

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

Vermaelen's not better than Agger or King but luckily for you, they're normally injured. A better comparison would be this

Carragher < Vermaelen
Skrtel = Koscielny
Coates < Djourou
Wilson < Squillaci

and

Dawson < Vermaelen
Gallas = Koscielny
Kaboul < Djourou
Bassong < Squillaci

Add Song in there as well and it looks even more favourable.

You've basically just changed it so it favors your post, but if that makes you feel like you're right then go ahead, although we both know you're not.

Vermaelen > Agger

And King is good when he's fit, sadly he's not anymore so Vermaelen > Him.

Besides, you think Squillaci is better then Bassong? Enough said.

arsenalap11 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:Agger < Vermaelen
Carragher = Koscielny
Skrtel > Djourou
Coates > Squillaci
Wilson > Miquel

Liverpool are slightly better

King < Vermaelen
Dawson > Koscielny
Gallas > Djourou
Kaboul > Squillaci
Bassong > Miquel

Spurs are quite a bit better and have more depth.

Vermaelen's not better than Agger or King but luckily for you, they're normally injured. A better comparison would be this

Carragher < Vermaelen
Skrtel = Koscielny
Coates < Djourou
Wilson < Squillaci

and

Dawson < Vermaelen
Gallas = Koscielny
Kaboul < Djourou
Bassong < Squillaci

Add Song in there as well and it looks even more favourable.

You've basically just changed it so it favors your post, but if that makes you feel like you're right then go ahead, although we both know you're not.

Vermaelen > Agger

And King is good when he's fit, sadly he's not anymore so Vermaelen > Him.

Besides, you think Squillaci is better then Bassong? Enough said.

Agreed.

I don't include players who miss more than 50% of their team's games, sorry.