ResurrectionRooney wrote:Maybe because, for the last years someone has always been fucking us up?ResurrectionRooney wrote:Mr Leiva wrote:
First off all. You call Mascherano one of them shit players. If you didn't notice. Who was playing center back for the team that beat you in the Champions League final? Ohh, yea. Mascherano. Macherano is probable one of the worlds best defensive midfielders.
Rafa spoke out against the owners, because he wanted to make public how much twats there were, and how there were going to corrupt the club. A club £300 million in debt, because of the leverage buyout they did. They took out a loan against a club to buy the club. When they couldn't afford to pay off that loan. They refinanced it, and we were struggling to pay the interest in the end. Never mind the loan it self. Only until RBS were about to pull the plug on the loan, Liverpool would have went into administration. Ohh, and he was right. He was one of the first to make public that they had no proper money.
So the first season under George and Tom Hicks. We just came runners up in the Champions League. £29 Million net spend. Not bad. Looked all good so far.
Second season under them we had a net spend off £-6.4 Million. That season is the season, you pointed out we bought Robbie Keane. It is fact, that Keane wasn't Rafa preferable choice. Instead, Rick Parry wanted him and spent all are money on him. Yes, it was a poor buy. Not all down to Rafa's fault. Anyway, we recouped £13 Million back that summer.
Thrid season. We sold Alonso for £30 Million, and that was put towards the debts. Around £45 Million made from sales, and we only spend £38.8 Million on Johnson, Aquilani and Soto. Were did that missing £6.4 Million go? Oh, yea the debts. Funnily enough we had to pay RSB money due on the interest, which was around £6 Million.
Next season. This gets even worse. With a basterd CEO, messing with playing side. Thinking he can play football manager while CEO. He sacks Rafeal Benitez because he tried to tell everyone how bad he was. Then Purslow and fucking Roy LMA Hodgson decides to loan Insua and Aquilani out for no reason. Then to bring in Poulsen and Konchesky as there replacements. My fucking god. But Fair play to him, for getting rid of the cancers, but he created more mess that we are still trying to correct now.
2010 OUT; Dossena,Voronin,Insua,Aquilani,Plessis,Dalle Valle,Kacaniclic,Cavalieri,Benayoun,Riera,Nemeth,Mihaylov,San Jose,Mascherano, £42.65mIN: Shelvey, Jovanovic, Cole, Wilson, Meireles, Konchesky, Jones, Poulsen, £25.5m . Thats about, £-17 Million net spend. I wonder where all that money went to. Ohh, yea the debt. Good owners arn't they. I wonder if we were still under G+H now. Interest even more, and the debt bigger. I wouldn't be surprised if were still a football club, not just history.
That not even before all the lies about spade in the ground bollocks, and wasting money on fancy plans for a new stadium, that wouldn't even be built. Also trying to plot against the current manager while going against the Liverpool way. Telling the media what was going on inside the club, and turning the club into a right circus.
Fucking amazing owners weren't they. Invested very little off there own cash into the club for transfers, while selling off player to pay for the debt. So before you come out with more shite, face the facts. Just a shame Rafa was used as a scapegoat and the media turned on him like a pack off wolves.
First of all I have never called Mascherano shit, he is a very good defensive midfielder, among the finest in the world.
Benitez's net spend over the period of the Hicks and Gillett ownership was higher than Ferguson's over the same period, he also oversaw big wage increases, so you can fuck right off with that argument.
You can't blame Hicks and Gillett for what Rick Parry did, indeed they even gave his powers to Benitez, which is quite a courteous thing to do but you scumbags don't seem to appreciate it. This just shows how paranoid you fucks are, not only do you have a new Messiah every year, you have to have a devil every year as well. Parry, Moores, Hodgson, Gillet, Hicks, Howard Webb, it's ridiculous.
Third season, you say you sold Alonso for £30m and put it towards the debts, but that's absurd, you spent over £38m, who is to say the £30m didn't entirely go on that, or go onto paying the wages of the players? Why do you say it was THAT £6m, why wasn't it another £6m? Maybe the fact you have a small stadium meant you couldn't spend as much on transfers and had to get players of the wage bill, or maybe you overpaid your current players, but no no it has to be the devils, Hicks and Gillett.
2010 you got rid of a lot of shit players, and Benayoun, that sounds like good management to me. I don't know why you include Aquilani in that, he wasn't even transferred. Further, you talk about your -£17m net spend, I'll tell you where all that goes, it's all put it in the fucking bank because you have to pay Joe Cole and Milan Jovanovic paying their grossly inflated wages. Do you think when you sign a player on a free transfer, you just get them a lot cheaper? Of course not, the difference is that most of the money goes into their bank accounts instead of their old clubs.
They intended on building a stadium, of course they did, I don't know if you noticed this, but there was a WORLDWIDE FUCKING RECESSION, bigger businesses than Liverpool had to put their plans on hold.
In any case, the manager shouldn't come out and bitch about the owners like Benitez did, it's not a good idea, it just ends up with the team being fucked because they know the manager wants to replace him, and makes the manager more likely to be fired, even if he is right. United pay more interest on debts than you do and had less net spend during Benitez's tenure, do you hear Ferguson coming out pissing and moaning about it? No, because he is a professional.
Your average net spend with Dalglish as manager has been £100,000, does he come out moaning about it? No, because he's a professional.
Question for you Lucas, if Hicks and Gillett had stayed and done the same things your current owners have done, sold Torres, £100,000 net spend, fired Hodgson and appointed Dalglish, would that have changed your opinion of them?
When they bought the club, they promised the former owners and the fans that they had money available to spend on the new stadium. When in fact, before the World Recension they didn't have enough to pay for it. They couldn't even afford to buy the club with capital, but bought the club with loans. Loans they couldn't afford to pay back, and to take out an other loan to buy a stadium. Also they promised not to buy the club with debts. But, oh wait. They did.
I highly doubt they would have sacked Hodgson. He hardly opposed them, and they didn't give a fuck about the club. Just as long as they fucked off and got there profit. And if we sold Torres, it would have went towards the interest payments that were due in October or the debt. Not reinvested in the squad. And thats if we weren't in the hands off administrators. And I'am reserving my judgment about the net spend this summer, and am going to re assure you it will be a massive summer financially.
Rooney. Do you think it is good, when owners buy the club with around £250 Million loan and then struggle to pay off the interest of the loan, then use Player sales to attempt to pay them off? And then spending less money to make the squad better? Liverpool were hours away from administration. All Rafa's fault wasn't it.
And, Funny how they had the funds to pay the debt off on the day the club was sold, and never before eh?
Rafa was used as a scapegoat, and the media fucking love every moment off it. Funny how Rupert Murdoch's Sky Sports gave Mr Hicks an interview, and it was the most staged publicity stunt I have seen in years. With his Stadium plans hanging on the wall, his puppy eyes and his blaming off Rafa and that Martin Broughton was a Chelsea fan, so he was against the club and other shite. The media especially Murdoch media outlets defending the cunts at every stop.
Yes, Rafa did have some poor buys, but he was under a sell to buy policy. Every manager does. But he had some excellent ones. I still don't get how people work out that it was all Rafa's fault.
