Liverpool vs Tottenham | BPL | 4:00

ResurrectionRooney wrote:You're biased though, I'm not biased, I'm watching it as a neutral, like Howard Webb, and I say it was a penalty.

Fantastic.

kyro7 wrote:To be honest, it's a hard call so I don't think it's so easy to get on the ref about.

When a Ref is in doubt, he is meant to let it go. But he couldn't wait to give that. Did you see how quickly he pointed to the spot? Don't think Pienaar was even on the floor yet

Penalty

ResurrectionRooney wrote:You're biased though, I'm not biased, I'm watching it as a neutral, like Howard Webb, and I say it was a penalty.

Quality.

It's hard. You can't say it's 100% penalty and you can't say it 100% wasn't. Another referee may not have given it and given a foul outside the box, another one may have let it go completely.

It is a tough one. Even a shoulder barge can be excessive. I'm leaning towards not a pen, because it was pretty 50-50.

Comparing to Eboue's is beyond moronic though. Running in to the back of someone and pushing them is no where near the same as a shoulder barge

If it had happened at the other end there's no doubt Liverpool fans would be pissing and moaning about Webb being biased if he hadn't given it.

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:To be honest, it's a hard call so I don't think it's so easy to get on the ref about.

When a Ref is in doubt, he is meant to let it go. But he couldn't wait to give that. Did you see how quickly he pointed to the spot?

It's easy in real time to think that was a foul in the box in real time.

kyro7 wrote:

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:To be honest, it's a hard call so I don't think it's so easy to get on the ref about.

When a Ref is in doubt, he is meant to let it go. But he couldn't wait to give that. Did you see how quickly he pointed to the spot?

It's easy in real time to think that was a foul in the box in real time.

Shoulder barges are legal though.

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:To be honest, it's a hard call so I don't think it's so easy to get on the ref about.

When a Ref is in doubt, he is meant to let it go. But he couldn't wait to give that. Did you see how quickly he pointed to the spot?

It's easy in real time to think that was a foul in the box in real time.

Shoulder barges are legal though.

Not if they're careless, reckless or using excessive force.

What a fucking cheat Maxi is.

It wasn't a shoulder barge though, shoulder barges is easing someone off the ball, not running right into them and smashing them.

the commentator is saying its a pen

CollieBuddz wrote:It is a tough one. Even a shoulder barge can be excessive. I'm leaning towards not a pen, because it was pretty 50-50.

Comparing to Eboue's is beyond moronic though. Running in to the back of someone and pushing them is no where near the same as a shoulder barge

is it really that moronic considering Lucas backed up into Eboue

ResurrectionRooney wrote:If it had happened at the other end there's no doubt Liverpool fans would be pissing and moaning about Webb being biased if he hadn't given it.

It wasn't a penalty. Through out the match he gave nothing our way. Suarez was getting hacked, and nothing. As soon as something so little happened to a Spurs player, he blew his whistle foul.

And half way through the second half, right infront off Webb. Maxi took on a spurs player. The spurs player kicked it out for a corner. Both the spurs players and Liverpool players were walking towards the spurs box, then Webb gives a goal kick.

And then he booked Suarez for fuck all.

Kuled wrote:What a fucking cheat Maxi is.

Hypocrite.

Mr Leiva wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:If it had happened at the other end there's no doubt Liverpool fans would be pissing and moaning about Webb being biased if he hadn't given it.

It wasn't a penalty. Through out the match he gave nothing our way. Suarez was getting hacked, and nothing. As soon as something so little happened to a Spurs player, he blew his whistle foul.

And half way through the second half, right infront off Webb. Maxi took on a spurs player. The spurs player kicked it out for a corner. Both the spurs players and Liverpool players were walking towards the spurs box, then Webb gives a goal kick.

And then he booked Suarez for fuck all.

Now I can't take your comments seriously.

He had a little kick out at Dawson in the first half that wasn't needed, or did you not see that with your Liverpool glasses on?

Suarez did have a kick, and I guess any contact is bookable.

Bogdan wrote:Suarez did have a kick, and I guess any contact is bookable.

Although it was a little kick, there was still some intent. That's probably why he was booked.

ZlatanFabregas wrote:

CollieBuddz wrote:It is a tough one. Even a shoulder barge can be excessive. I'm leaning towards not a pen, because it was pretty 50-50.

Comparing to Eboue's is beyond moronic though. Running in to the back of someone and pushing them is no where near the same as a shoulder barge

is it really that moronic considering Lucas backed up into Eboue

He didn't, he slowed down expecting the challenge from Eboue. All Eboue had to do was step off and let Lucas carry on running away from goal. Lucas played for the foul, but it was a blatant foul none the less.

Just got back then. Well, a little disappointed I have to say. I hate seeing Liverpool any game, but I'm not 'devastated' by the result. It now looks like Tottenham have got fifth place. That's fine with me. We can just look forward to next season now and we've pretty much got a straight run at trying winning the Premier League (Because we can do it, IF we buy the right players), no stupid fucking trips to Romania on Thursday nights and then having to play on Sunday, it winds me up so much and you're always playing catch up with the rest of the teams and your players are fatigued from the long journeys. We won't be playing out of England at all next season and we've got the Premier League, Carling Cup and FA Cup to focus on. Plenty of competition still. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have minded at all if we had of beat Tottenham today and clinched the only available Europa League squad, but I'm not really disappointed by not getting it, for the reasons I've just given. As I said, there is no distraction, no catch up, no long trips. We can pretty much focus all our attention on the League and the two domestic cups (And I'd like a good run in one of the cups again, we haven't been on one for ages).

And on the game, well, it just never really went our way, Tottenham flew out the blocks and we're all over us the first ten minutes, admittedly, we didn't start well at all and van der Vaart scored what look to me like a beauty, complete fluke though and it can happen to any one, he just took a right ole stab at it with his right foot and unfortunately for us, found it's way into the top corner of goal. After the goal, it was pretty much even. Tottenham never really threatened but then on the other hand, we never tested Cudicini, did he actually have a save to make? Apart from a few loose efforts outside the area? Back four pretty much done it's job, Flano played well again, had Pienaar in his back pocket to be honest, got turned a few times mind, but, dealt with the danger pretty well. Carragher and Skrtel were ok. Johnson I thought had a very good game going forward, he had Kaboul all ends up, it was pretty funny actually. He was all over the place, simply couldn't handle the skill and pace of Johnson and with Johno being on the left, he cut in quite a bit as well and Kaboul just couldn't read him. He played well and was never troubled by Lennon, Lennon was pretty quite actually.

Maxi did ok, his passing and movement was spot on as usual, he just never had the service and support today from his fellow team mates. Kuyt worked his bollocks off again and looked like the only who wanted a go today. Him and Danny Rose had a good battle today, as Kuyt mainly played from the right, came in a lot which made it difficult for Rose to follow, but Danny impresses me. I've played football with him before, when I was at Tottenham myself, he's a good lad as well, it's good to see him progressing, he'll make a good full back. Lucas and Spearing were ok too I thought, they did ok, but to be fair, Modric absolutely ran the show in the middle, he's fucking great player him. Neither of them could get near him to be fair. Suarez was ok, had the defenders all over the shop at points. Carroll didn't do too bad, however he didn't win a header all day and missed a sitter in the first half, he'd have probably buried that 9/10 in training with his eyes closed as well.

So yeah, there weren't any 'bad performances' from the players, no one in particular stood out. Just the team didn't quite get going as an overall unit, the passes wasn't and sharp and crisp as it has been, we played at a slower tempo, few silly passes going astray, not enough 'urgency' for me from the players, but that's to be expected. The way we've played these last couple of weeks, we can't expect to that type of performance every week, because it simply won't happen. Today we didn't play well and we came up against a decent side in Spurs who to be honest rode their luck and finished up with the three points. They weren't better than us today. I mean, I don't if any of you have seen it on tv but the penalty was a fuckin joke of a decision, Flano shoulder barged him off the ball? I thought the ball had gone out and Webb was pointing for a goal kick, can someone please point out to me, what was wrong with that, because I'm struggling to find reasons why it WAS a foul? Typical Manc badly cunt is Howard Webb, gave fuck all, all game and screwed us over again. And that's just what I was talking about, the ball just bounced Spurs way today. And then at two nil, a draw was the best we could hope for and just by watching, I knew it was pretty much game over, we were never gunna' score two today, we just weren't at the races. But at one nil, you never know, we might have snatched a goal and earned our selves a point, but that Fergie rent boy twat took that away from us by completely fucking us over with the decision.

But yeah, not a great game from us to be fair and certainly not our best performance under Kenny by any stretch of the imagination. But today, probably the injuries and lack of squad probably finally caught up with us. We could of done with having Gerrard, Agger and Kelly today, might of been different. But it;s onwards and upwards and in January when we were 13 points behind Spurs, if you'd have said to me, would you take with one game left to be one point behind them with Kenny Dalglish as manager, I'd of bit your hand off. We're progressing, we're going places and quite frankly, this result means nothing in that, plain and simple. We've got work to do, we know that, it's not going to be easy, it never is, but I'm confident on the future.

Anyone got any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer as best I can.

The King has returned.

Fergie rent boy, hello, hello! Fergie rent boy, hello, hello!

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

Scott wrote:

kyro7 wrote:To be honest, it's a hard call so I don't think it's so easy to get on the ref about.

When a Ref is in doubt, he is meant to let it go. But he couldn't wait to give that. Did you see how quickly he pointed to the spot?

It's easy in real time to think that was a foul in the box in real time.

Shoulder barges are legal though.

Not if they're careless, reckless or using excessive force.

I didn't see Flanagan using Careless, Reckless or using excessive force.

It was the spurs player that barged into Flanagan. Flanagan hold his ground, and the fell to the ground. Very silly penalty to give, very silly.

Lets hope next season we get less games with that manc refereeing

Why didn't Liverpool win the League in 2008/09? Howard Webb.
Why did Liverpool lost at Old Trafford last season? Howard Webb.
Why did Liverpool lose 3-2 at Old Trafford this season? Howard Webb.
Why did Liverpool go out of the FA Cup this season? Howard Webb.
Why did Liverpool lose against Tottenham? Howard Webb.

What an evil bastard, eh? I don't know how he keeps getting away with it. He even fooled UEFA and FIFA into giving him the biggest events of the season. Either than or Liverpool fans are just deluded spastics.

By the way, I don't know if anyone's pointed this out but Liverpool lost TWO nil, they didn't have a man sent off but they still couldn't manage to score even though the scenario with regard to needing a goal was the same. Liverpool didn't lose because Howard Webb is a YNWA singing Manchester United fan, they didn't lose because of the penalty, they lost because Spurs played better than they did, and they didn't score any goals.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:By the way, I don't know if anyone's pointed this out but Liverpool lost TWO nil, they didn't have a man sent off but they still couldn't manage to score even though the scenario with regard to needing a goal was the same. Liverpool didn't lose because Howard Webb is a YNWA singing Manchester United fan, they didn't lose because of the penalty, they lost because Spurs played better than they did, and they didn't score any goals.

Don't know if you noticed, but it was 1-0 when the penalty was given. Much less of a task to come back from don't you think?


And the people comparing it to the Eboue tackle. Eboue was behind Lucas, Flanagan went in shoulder-to-shoulder, which is allowed.

Dean I've got 2 questions
1) Where do you sit
2) Did you see the streaker?

Honestly, you can moan all you like about the penalty, but it was given and nothing you say or do will change that or the result. We were on the end of TWO wrong decisions at Chelsea, so we know how it feels. Just stop moaning and move on to the next game.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:By the way, I don't know if anyone's pointed this out but Liverpool lost TWO nil, they didn't have a man sent off but they still couldn't manage to score even though the scenario with regard to needing a goal was the same. Liverpool didn't lose because Howard Webb is a YNWA singing Manchester United fan, they didn't lose because of the penalty, they lost because Spurs played better than they did, and they didn't score any goals.

Don't know if you noticed, but it was 1-0 when the penalty was given. Much less of a task to come back from don't you think?


And the people comparing it to the Eboue tackle. Eboue was behind Lucas, Flanagan went in shoulder-to-shoulder, which is allowed.

The first thing you have to do to come back from 2-0 down is the same thing you have to do the same thing as to come back from 1-0 down, score a goal.

You're making up rules here by the way.