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Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
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fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
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Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Well it'd be a bit difficult to play well when you're injured
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luke. wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Well it'd be a bit difficult to play well when you're injured
Obviously. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though, he has played games over the past few months y'know.
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He looked mature in the 1st leg against Barcelona and in many other games including City away. Before you mention the 2nd leg, Alves would have laughed in Bale's face.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
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Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
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Yeah, just to save time I'm going to say...NO. All wrong, try again.
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Moving your leg to pass it sideways and keep possession is skill, but using your legs to beat defenders isn't.
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Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
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Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
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Fine Shagger wrote:Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
He is like 21! when he grows older and slower he will adapt much like Ryan Giggs. Bale still has mountains of potential which is the reason why basically every team in the world is interested in him at this point.
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chiboygeorge wrote:Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:
kick and run.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
different players in different situations..but alot of people think Bale has been better because he won Player of the Year while Nani did not.
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Alot of people think Bale has been better? I'm asking what YOU think..lol.fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
different players in different situations..but alot of people think Bale has been better because he won Player of the Year while Nani did not.
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fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
He is like 21! when he grows older and slower he will adapt much like Ryan Giggs. Bale still has mountains of potential which is the reason why basically every team in the world is interested in him at this point.
You're comparing Bale to Giggs? Giggs had, has and always will have a much, much, much better dribbling technique than Bale.
Giggs is much more talented than Bale.
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chiboygeorge wrote:Alot of people think Bale has been better? I'm asking what YOU think..lol.fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
different players in different situations..but alot of people think Bale has been better because he won Player of the Year while Nani did not.
Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
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fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Alot of people think Bale has been better? I'm asking what YOU think..lol.fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
different players in different situations..but alot of people think Bale has been better because he won Player of the Year while Nani did not.
Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
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fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:kick and run.fluffy_kittens wrote:because Bale plays like a seasoned veteran while Wilshere plays like a teenager, easy enough.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Can you see into the future?
Walcott - 20 goals/assists in 32 games this season.
Bale - 14 goals/assists in 35 games this season.
So tell me how Bale has blown him away this season, especially when Bale has started most those whilst Walcott has come off the bench a lot.
fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
He is like 21! when he grows older and slower he will adapt much like Ryan Giggs. Bale still has mountains of potential which is the reason why basically every team in the world is interested in him at this point.
Where have you got the 'everyone in the world is interested in him'. The sun? Goal.com?
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lol.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
He is like 21! when he grows older and slower he will adapt much like Ryan Giggs. Bale still has mountains of potential which is the reason why basically every team in the world is interested in him at this point.
Bale is a huge threat.. a lot overrated and a lot underrate.. he's not as talented as Giggs, no chance.. but he's still good at what he does and has a bright future, that said he doesn't deserve the hype he gets, and this award.
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fluffy_kittens wrote:Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
I can see even by your post that you don't fully believe what your'e saying, you yourself know Nani has been the better player.
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Lux wrote:Moving your leg to pass it sideways and keep possession is skill, but using your legs to beat defenders isn't.
yeah not like he works hard to gain that speed that most players just don't have or anything like that..
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fluffy_kittens wrote:Lux wrote:Moving your leg to pass it sideways and keep possession is skill, but using your legs to beat defenders isn't.
yeah not like he works hard to gain that speed that most players just don't have or anything like that..
I hope this is a joke.
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arsenalap11 wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Coatsy wrote:
kick and run.
why is that a bad thing? He has the speed to blow by anybody he doesn't need to do Ronaldo tricks and stuff. Don't see why calling him kick and run is an insult because it obviously has worked
Because it takes no skill to do, is not good to watch and is easy to shut down. Probably why he's been shit for months, easy to close him out of a game.
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Can you see into the future?
Walcott - 20 goals/assists in 32 games this season.
Bale - 14 goals/assists in 35 games this season.
So tell me how Bale has blown him away this season, especially when Bale has started most those whilst Walcott has come off the bench a lot.fluffy_kittens wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Yes. One takes athleticism to do, the other takes footballing talent and ability.
Look at the top dribblers in the world - every single one of them keeps the Bale close to them, when Bale tries that he gets found out as technically inept.
He is like 21! when he grows older and slower he will adapt much like Ryan Giggs. Bale still has mountains of potential which is the reason why basically every team in the world is interested in him at this point.
Where have you got the 'everyone in the world is interested in him'. The sun? Goal.com?
Walcott has better attacking players to work with then Bale does at Tottenham..we dont have a striker like RVP or players like Nasri/Arshavin
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fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Alot of people think Bale has been better? I'm asking what YOU think..lol.fluffy_kittens wrote:chiboygeorge wrote:Inter are shit, been shit the whole season. Many players have ripped them apart this season but still no hype for them like that of Bale.fluffy_kittens wrote:
Being fast isn't a skill? haha blowing by the best defenders in the world isn't skillful? Scoring 3 goals against the European champs isn't skillful? Playing perfect crosses in the 2nd leg against the European Champs isn't skillful? And you're crazy it's amazing to watch or else no one, including myself would be making a big deal about it.
Past few seasons Walcott, Young, Lennon get hyped up for being fast wingers, Bale accomplished more this season then any of them will in 5 seasons, he blows them out of the water in every possible way. He is a picture perfect winger, he goes down the side and either crosses it in or finishes it himself, he is the definition of a winger and any team in the Prem would want him at this point. Ridiculous haters in this forum.
Let me ask you one thing, do you think Bale is better than Nani, at least this season?
different players in different situations..but alot of people think Bale has been better because he won Player of the Year while Nani did not.
Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
Clearly.
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kyro7 wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
I can see even by your post that you don't fully believe what your'e saying, you yourself know Nani has been the better player.
better isn't the right choice of term.
Nani has 3 top quality strikers and a better manager and better team all around, they are close but even though Nani is statistically better I think Bale is the better player.
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people using stats to say bale is shit
walcott gets more goals obviously because he plays a much more advanced role, his job is to score goals, bales is to cross balls in, which he does brilliantly, its just crouch, pav and defoe havent been able to score for shit this season. and he was out for like 7 weeks and has only recently come back, of course he wont be playing brilliantly whilst hes fucking injured, and before that he was brilliant. plus he doesnt just kick and run like you idiots think hes involved with build up play a lot, hes a very good passer but none of you see that when you watch motd.
I hope he fucking rips eboue up on wednesday.
walcott gets more goals obviously because he plays a much more advanced role, his job is to score goals, bales is to cross balls in, which he does brilliantly, its just crouch, pav and defoe havent been able to score for shit this season. and he was out for like 7 weeks and has only recently come back, of course he wont be playing brilliantly whilst hes fucking injured, and before that he was brilliant. plus he doesnt just kick and run like you idiots think hes involved with build up play a lot, hes a very good passer but none of you see that when you watch motd.
I hope he fucking rips eboue up on wednesday.
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If Bale was a player of either Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea people would be bumming him. No popint denying it, it's true. He doesn't deserve half the slack, "one trick pony" my ass, he is technically very sound, uses his burst of pace to his advantage.
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Nani is a better footballer, has been better this season performance wise, has been better this season statistically.fluffy_kittens wrote:kyro7 wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Yes I think he has been better, he has far less to work with, but I am obviously biased as you know.
I can see even by your post that you don't fully believe what your'e saying, you yourself know Nani has been the better player.
better isn't the right choice of term.
Nani has 3 top quality strikers and a better manager and better team all around, they are close but even though Nani is statistically better I think Bale is the better player.
No doubt, Nani >> Bale.
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He's a great player, but overrated.Fanatic wrote:If Bale was a player of either Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea people would be bumming him. No popint denying it, it's true. He doesn't deserve half the slack, "one trick pony" my ass, he is technically very sound, uses his burst of pace to his advantage.
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Fine Shagger wrote:fluffy_kittens wrote:Lux wrote:Moving your leg to pass it sideways and keep possession is skill, but using your legs to beat defenders isn't.
yeah not like he works hard to gain that speed that most players just don't have or anything like that..
I hope this is a joke.
Why would it be a joke? He is faster then most players I don't think he was born that way, he worked hard his whole life, he wasn't even in the Tottenham team for some games last season and he continued to work hard.