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    Rafa Benitez or Kenny Dalglish.

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    Post by Kuled Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:49 pm

    Fergie didn't spend over 100 Million in his first year.
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:15 pm

    Kuled wrote:Fergie didn't spend over 100 Million in his first year.
    He spent big money back then.

    1987 Viv Anderson Arsenal 250.000
    Brian McClair Celtic 850.000
    Steve Bruce Norwich 825.000


    1988
    Jim Leighton Aberdeen 750.000
    Lee Sharpe Torquay 180.000
    Mal Donaghy Luton Town 650.000
    Ralph Mine Bristol City 170.000
    Mark Hughes Barcelona 1.800.000
    Giuliano Mairoana Histon 30.000


    1989
    Mike Phelan Norwich 750.000
    Gary Pallister Middlesbrough 2.300.000
    Neill Web Nott. Forest 1.500.000
    Brian Carey Corke 100.000
    Danny Wallace Southampton 1.200.000
    Paul Ince West Ham 1.500.000


    1990
    Denis Irwin Oldham 625.000
    Les Sealey Luton Town Free
    Neil Withworth Wigan 150.000

    1991
    Andrei Kanchelskis Donetsk 650.000
    Peter Schmeichel Bröndby 550.000
    Paul Parker QPR 2.000.000

    1992
    Dion Dublin Cambridge 1.000.000
    Pat McGibbon Portadown 100.000
    Eric Cantona Leeds Utd. 1.200.000


    Mark Hughes was signed for 1.8 million and that was a club record for Manchester United at the time and very close to being as much as the british transfer record at the time.

    When Fergie bought Pallister for 2.3 million that was national record for a defender at the time, as well as being the highest fee between British clubs and the second highest fee to be paid by a British club – second only to Ian Rush's return to Liverpool from Juventus a year earlier.

    So 2.3 million was big money back then and that was a few quid he spent back when he first took over at United. And im not saying Dalglish is going to get anywhere near Fergie, and im not saying Dalglish is going to be the man to get Liverpool back into the top 4 and be succesful in the long run. But Fergie spent big cash but he got more than one full season to turn things around and after 3 years at United lots of fans wanted him to be sacked after he had finished 11th and 13th in 2 of his first 3 full seasons at United.

    In 1989, Michael Knighton made a takeover bid of £20 million for Manchester United. At the time, this was a record figure for a British football club and the offer was accepted by chief executive Martin Edwards.[2] Knighton promised to invest £10 million in the team's stadium, Old Trafford, as well as re-establish the club as England's top side.

    That shows how big 20 million quid was back then, you could have bought Manchester United for 20 million back then.Laughing
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:25 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:Has to be Kenny for me. His style is more suited to how we play. Rafa will probably end up at Villa or City next season.

    Strong delusion as usual. laugh
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:26 am

    Can't believe you're even asking this question, Rafa.
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:36 am

    Alan wrote:
    Kuled wrote:Fergie didn't spend over 100 Million in his first year.
    He spent big money back then.

    1987 Viv Anderson Arsenal 250.000
    Brian McClair Celtic 850.000
    Steve Bruce Norwich 825.000


    1988
    Jim Leighton Aberdeen 750.000
    Lee Sharpe Torquay 180.000
    Mal Donaghy Luton Town 650.000
    Ralph Mine Bristol City 170.000
    Mark Hughes Barcelona 1.800.000
    Giuliano Mairoana Histon 30.000


    1989
    Mike Phelan Norwich 750.000
    Gary Pallister Middlesbrough 2.300.000
    Neill Web Nott. Forest 1.500.000
    Brian Carey Corke 100.000
    Danny Wallace Southampton 1.200.000
    Paul Ince West Ham 1.500.000


    1990
    Denis Irwin Oldham 625.000
    Les Sealey Luton Town Free
    Neil Withworth Wigan 150.000

    1991
    Andrei Kanchelskis Donetsk 650.000
    Peter Schmeichel Bröndby 550.000
    Paul Parker QPR 2.000.000

    1992
    Dion Dublin Cambridge 1.000.000
    Pat McGibbon Portadown 100.000
    Eric Cantona Leeds Utd. 1.200.000


    Mark Hughes was signed for 1.8 million and that was a club record for Manchester United at the time and very close to being as much as the british transfer record at the time.

    When Fergie bought Pallister for 2.3 million that was national record for a defender at the time, as well as being the highest fee between British clubs and the second highest fee to be paid by a British club – second only to Ian Rush's return to Liverpool from Juventus a year earlier.

    So 2.3 million was big money back then and that was a few quid he spent back when he first took over at United. And im not saying Dalglish is going to get anywhere near Fergie, and im not saying Dalglish is going to be the man to get Liverpool back into the top 4 and be succesful in the long run. But Fergie spent big cash but he got more than one full season to turn things around and after 3 years at United lots of fans wanted him to be sacked after he had finished 11th and 13th in 2 of his first 3 full seasons at United.

    In 1989, Michael Knighton made a takeover bid of £20 million for Manchester United. At the time, this was a record figure for a British football club and the offer was accepted by chief executive Martin Edwards.[2] Knighton promised to invest £10 million in the team's stadium, Old Trafford, as well as re-establish the club as England's top side.

    That shows how big 20 million quid was back then, you could have bought Manchester United for 20 million back then.Laughing

    But money isn't why Fergie is such a great manager... Manchester United had a shit squad when Fergie took over too, Liverpool had a fairly decent one when Dalglish took over but he just added to it with shit. He should be sacked for the Carroll purchase alone. laugh
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:38 am

    Also spending £12m over 5 seasons back then is still a lot less than spending £100m in one year. Laughing
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:11 am

    But then look at those signings and it was good business.
    Mark Hughes, Pallister and Cantona (plus a few others there) were instrumental in premiership and fa cup winning sides.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:20 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:Has to be Kenny for me. His style is more suited to how we play. Rafa will probably end up at Villa or City next season.
    Laughing
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:22 am

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:But then look at those signings and it was good business.
    Mark Hughes, Pallister and Cantona (plus a few others there) were instrumental in premiership and fa cup winning sides.
    So you're saying that buying the new Alan Shearer, the best attacking header of the ball in world football, for 35 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Jordan Henderson, the best young English midfielder and the most "Liverpool" player of all time, for 16 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Stewart Downing, the best crosser of the ball in the Premier League, for 20 million, is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Charlie Adam, the man that nearly singlehandedly saved Blackpool last season, the man that Ian Holloway himself said is on par with Xabi Alonso, for just 8 million is bad business?

    Please, the bias in this thread is sickening. Absolutely revolting.
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    Post by Harrold Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:48 am

    Glen Damon wrote:
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:But then look at those signings and it was good business.
    Mark Hughes, Pallister and Cantona (plus a few others there) were instrumental in premiership and fa cup winning sides.
    So you're saying that buying the new Alan Shearer, the best attacking header of the ball in world football, for 35 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Jordan Henderson, the best young English midfielder and the most "Liverpool" player of all time, for 16 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Stewart Downing, the best crosser of the ball in the Premier League, for 20 million, is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Charlie Adam, the man that nearly singlehandedly saved Blackpool last season, the man that Ian Holloway himself said is on par with Xabi Alonso, for just 8 million is bad business?

    Please, the bias in this thread is sickening. Absolutely revolting.

    Ian Holloway is never wrong.
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:17 am

    Glen Damon wrote:
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:But then look at those signings and it was good business.
    Mark Hughes, Pallister and Cantona (plus a few others there) were instrumental in premiership and fa cup winning sides.
    So you're saying that buying the new Alan Shearer, the best attacking header of the ball in world football, for 35 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Jordan Henderson, the best young English midfielder and the most "Liverpool" player of all time, for 16 million is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Stewart Downing, the best crosser of the ball in the Premier League, for 20 million, is not good business?
    You're saying that buying Charlie Adam, the man that nearly singlehandedly saved Blackpool last season, the man that Ian Holloway himself said is on par with Xabi Alonso, for just 8 million is bad business?

    Please, the bias in this thread is sickening. Absolutely revolting.

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    Post by Demba Ba Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:36 am

    Dalglish back in his hayday was a better manager. Even though he's not a great manager himself, Benitez is probably the better of the two now.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:06 pm

    Rick Rosstrich wrote:
    Alan wrote:He spent big money back then.

    1987 Viv Anderson Arsenal 250.000
    Brian McClair Celtic 850.000
    Steve Bruce Norwich 825.000


    1988
    Jim Leighton Aberdeen 750.000
    Lee Sharpe Torquay 180.000
    Mal Donaghy Luton Town 650.000
    Ralph Mine Bristol City 170.000
    Mark Hughes Barcelona 1.800.000
    Giuliano Mairoana Histon 30.000


    1989
    Mike Phelan Norwich 750.000
    Gary Pallister Middlesbrough 2.300.000
    Neill Web Nott. Forest 1.500.000
    Brian Carey Corke 100.000
    Danny Wallace Southampton 1.200.000
    Paul Ince West Ham 1.500.000


    1990
    Denis Irwin Oldham 625.000
    Les Sealey Luton Town Free
    Neil Withworth Wigan 150.000

    1991
    Andrei Kanchelskis Donetsk 650.000
    Peter Schmeichel Bröndby 550.000
    Paul Parker QPR 2.000.000

    1992
    Dion Dublin Cambridge 1.000.000
    Pat McGibbon Portadown 100.000
    Eric Cantona Leeds Utd. 1.200.000


    Mark Hughes was signed for 1.8 million and that was a club record for Manchester United at the time and very close to being as much as the british transfer record at the time.

    When Fergie bought Pallister for 2.3 million that was national record for a defender at the time, as well as being the highest fee between British clubs and the second highest fee to be paid by a British club – second only to Ian Rush's return to Liverpool from Juventus a year earlier.

    So 2.3 million was big money back then and that was a few quid he spent back when he first took over at United. And im not saying Dalglish is going to get anywhere near Fergie, and im not saying Dalglish is going to be the man to get Liverpool back into the top 4 and be succesful in the long run. But Fergie spent big cash but he got more than one full season to turn things around and after 3 years at United lots of fans wanted him to be sacked after he had finished 11th and 13th in 2 of his first 3 full seasons at United.

    In 1989, Michael Knighton made a takeover bid of £20 million for Manchester United. At the time, this was a record figure for a British football club and the offer was accepted by chief executive Martin Edwards.[2] Knighton promised to invest £10 million in the team's stadium, Old Trafford, as well as re-establish the club as England's top side.

    That shows how big 20 million quid was back then, you could have bought Manchester United for 20 million back then.Laughing

    But money isn't why Fergie is such a great manager... Manchester United had a shit squad when Fergie took over too, Liverpool had a fairly decent one when Dalglish took over but he just added to it with shit. He should be sacked for the Carroll purchase alone. Rafa Benitez or Kenny Dalglish. - Page 2 599439

    In his first full season Manchester United finished runners up to Liverpool, althought they never really got close to Liverpool through out the season. But finishing 2nd proved the squad was not all that bad, but in the next 2 years he finished 11th and 13th. And all im saying is Ferguson got time before he got things changed around at United and spent some big cash back then and bought in a lot of players is this time. Im only saying even the greatest managers need time to build things at times.

    And ive said it many times, there is no certainty Kenny Dalglish is going to be the right man to get Liverpool challenging for the top 4 again. And if things dont start to improve this season and the League form improves into next season, he wont be Liverpool's manager for much longer.
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    Post by MichaelDobbo Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:45 am

    Cadbury wrote:Tough one.

    Problem is, I appreciate Rafa more because I witnessed what he'd done. If I was a little bit older and could remember Kenny's best years, then I think I'd vote him. But I can't, so I'm voting Rafa. Though I shouldn't, because Kenny's arguebly done more for us than Rafa.

    No doubt the older generation such as Liverpoolfc for Ever, will vote Kenny.

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