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    Would you have Busquets in your clubs starting 11?

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    Busquets anyone?

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    Post by Danny Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:28 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.
    You've got to take into account that Busquets is mainly a holding midfielder, while none of Fabregas, Alonso, Iniesta and Xavi are. And I think, from those 4 there, Fabregas was the only unlucky one in the World Cup final.

    Arsenal fans have a point though, as did Kyro. Arsenal aren't exactly struggling for players in that position, Song's brilliant at it. And Kyro did mention along the lines of how well Busquets could play regularly without Iniesta and Xavi alongside him..
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    Post by Jamie Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:29 am

    Busquets is better than song. Neutral

    As Xavi says, there isn't a better one touch passer in world football than Sergio B.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:30 am

    na schumacher and mozika are too good for him Neutral
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    Post by blackskar Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:30 am

    I'd still prefer Song Razz
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:31 am

    I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    And Danny, I would say Alonso is a holding midfielder.
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    Post by Jamie Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:31 am

    One at centre back, the other midfield. Sorted. Simples
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    Post by blackskar Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:32 am

    Zzonked wrote:I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    And Danny, I would say Alonso is a holding midfielder.

    He didn't start because both Iniesta and Xavi are ahead of him. Nothing to do with Busquets at all, because he doesn't play that role Confused
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:33 am

    blackskar wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    And Danny, I would say Alonso is a holding midfielder.

    He didn't start because both Iniesta and Xavi are ahead of him. Nothing to do with Busquets at all, because he doesn't play that role Confused

    That wasn't my point! I know what I mean in my head I'm just not putting it down very well. Sad
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    Post by Jamie Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:33 am

    Could've easily played Alonso, Fabregas and Xavi as the trio but Sergio the legend was chosen instead. cheers
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:34 am

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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:34 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing
    I knew you were going to say something like this. Laughing
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    Post by Jamie Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:34 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    blackskar wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    And Danny, I would say Alonso is a holding midfielder.

    He didn't start because both Iniesta and Xavi are ahead of him. Nothing to do with Busquets at all, because he doesn't play that role Confused

    That wasn't my point! I know what I mean in my head I'm just not putting it down very well. Sad

    I think I get what you mean...if Song and Busquets were both available for the Spain squad, Busquets would be the one chosen. I think? shifty
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    Post by Danny Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:35 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:Busquets is better than song. Neutral

    As Xavi says, there isn't a better one touch passer in world football than Sergio B.
    I never said Song was better than him, I said Arsenal aren't exactly looking for a player of Busquet's mould, so it isn't surprising to see many of them saying no because they have song. Neutral

    Zzonked, I guess Alonso is in a way. But I think he's wasted as a holding/defensive midfielder, especially if he's the only one- which really would restrict his impact going foward.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:36 am

    Yes. He already is in my team's starting lineup. hehe
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    Post by blackskar Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:37 am

    He plays for Al Ahly?

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    Post by Jamie Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:38 am

    He is already in min....

    Oh wait shifty
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    Post by Mal Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:40 am

    Barcelona bummers :sexytime:
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:44 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    blackskar wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    And Danny, I would say Alonso is a holding midfielder.

    He didn't start because both Iniesta and Xavi are ahead of him. Nothing to do with Busquets at all, because he doesn't play that role Confused

    That wasn't my point! I know what I mean in my head I'm just not putting it down very well. Sad

    I think I get what you mean...if Song and Busquets were both available for the Spain squad, Busquets would be the one chosen. I think? shifty

    Something along those lines. Basically the bottom line is that Busquets > Song. I don't know why I bothered bring Fabregas into it. Laughing
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:51 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.

    Well you already know he's a holding midfielder and Song is a extremely good DM
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:51 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.

    Stupid comparison.

    Iniesta and Xavi started infront of Fabregas in the WC. Not Busquets. Busquets is different player from Fabregas and started behind Xavi+Iniesta in a completely different role.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:56 am

    polska. wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.

    Stupid comparison.

    Iniesta and Xavi started infront of Fabregas in the WC. Not Busquets. Busquets is different player from Fabregas and started behind Xavi+Iniesta in a completely different role.

    Stupid response.

    I've already said twice that's not what I meant.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:57 am

    Zzonked wrote:I know they're different players, my point wasn't Busquets is better than Fabregas. My point was that Arsenals best player didn't start the game Busquets did. If Song was Spanish, he more than likely wouldn't get in the Spanish team, Busquets is a regular in it.

    Busquets and Song are suited for different roles. Song is an Anchorman/Defensive Midfielder (who bombs forward for some reason shifty) while Busquets is more don't know... fluid. Neutral He is equally adept for the technical side of the game and regularly helps in attack.

    Arsenal don't need that player, they need an anchorman and have one in Song. In the current Arsenal 4-5-1, Song is a better fit.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:58 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.

    Stupid comparison.

    Iniesta and Xavi started infront of Fabregas in the WC. Not Busquets. Busquets is different player from Fabregas and started behind Xavi+Iniesta in a completely different role.

    Stupid response.

    I've already said twice that's not what I meant.
    Sorry, I haven't read the second page. Neutral
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    Post by blackskar Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:59 am

    polska. wrote: In the current Arsenal 4-5-1, Song is a better fit.

    'cept that Arsenal this season are playing a more fluid 4-2-3-1 with Wilshere and Song both playing in CM, both getting forward while the other stays back to cover. Most tactic sites show this.

    Hence the 'bombing' forward, Arsene has given his the freedom to do that this season. Even though he's not suited to that role as well as a purely holding player.


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    Post by Zzonked Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:59 am

    I'll try and explain my point better, here's what I think I meant:

    Busquets is more important to the Spanish national side than Fabregas.

    Fabregas is more important to the Arsenal side than Song.

    So therefore, Busquets would be more important than Song.

    Probably still leaves room for the position comparison, but just accept that I made a bad point, okay. It was a bad point. Bottom line, I think Busquets would start for Arsenal okay? Done. taxi
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:02 am

    Zzonked wrote:I'll try and explain my point better, here's what I think I meant:

    Busquets is more important to the Spanish national side than Fabregas.

    Fabregas is more important to the Arsenal side than Song.

    So therefore, Busquets would be more important than Song.

    Probably still leaves room for the position comparison, but just accept that I made a bad point, okay. It was a bad point. Bottom line, I think Busquets would start for Arsenal okay? Done. taxi

    But you are comparing two different teams. That's just not a good comparison at all.

    By the way, I think Busquets is better than Song.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:03 am

    blackskar wrote:
    polska. wrote: In the current Arsenal 4-5-1, Song is a better fit.

    'cept that Arsenal this season are playing a more fluid 4-2-3-1 with Wilshere and Song both playing in CM, both getting forward while the other stays back to cover. Most tactic sites show this.

    And? Song is still the DM in the formation. All this proves is that Song is not that bad in playing a more Busquets-type role.

    Plus Song only plays like that when the whole first team is fit, which isn't often.
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    Post by RubyArmyCTFC Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:05 am

    Yes.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:06 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Obviously rofl

    He'd start for 100% of teams in the world ffs Laughing

    I think he probably would start for most of them.

    Arsenal fans saying he wouldn't, he started ahead Fabregas in the World Cup final, but he isn't better than Song? lol.
    So did Xavi and Iniesta yet until Fabregas came on none of them did anything. Took Cesc how long to setup a goal? Laughing

    Anyway Arsenal have won every game when we have started this apart from Man City at home where we got a draw, so there is no reason to swap Song for anybody.

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    Post by Lux Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:27 am

    Well...it's hard to say......

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