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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:39 pm

    I just finished watching the match again (plus the parts I missed) and took notes on the referees' performances throughout the match. I tried to be as unbiased as possible. I also ignored calls that weren't controversial or significant. The following is my review...

    First Half
    27': Van Persie was seen clipping Messi's ankle in a late challenge. The referee correctly called the foul, but did not issue a yellow card to Van Persie. I think one could argue that Van Persie made a reckless challenge by clipping Messi late. I had a hard time deciding if I should even add this to my review.

    28': Sagna gets yellow card for time wasting by throwing the ball to a teammate after being called for a foul. The referee proceeds to book Sagna. I didn't think it was worth a yellow card to be honest. It didn't end up to make a difference at the end of the match.

    32': Messi was swept inside the penalty box. A clear penalty not given by the referee.

    44': Abidal holds Van Persie's neck during a confrontation between both teams. No card was given but one could argue a case for a yellow card on Abidal. Again, Abidal didn't receive a yellow card later in the match so it wouldn't have made a difference.

    45': Van Persie blatantly shoves Alves in the face off the ball. The referee gives Van Persie a yellow card. One could argue a case for a straight red card in this instance. Van Persie had his back to the ball and just blatantly shoved Alves' face. One could also argue Van Persie should have had his second yellow card of the night if they believe he deserved a yellow card in the 27'.

    Second Half
    55': Van Persie shoots the ball after the whistle and gets his second yellow. A very harsh call. No card was warranted.

    70': Koscielny takes down Pedro in the box and a penalty is given. However, no card was given out for the Arsenal defender. I believe a card should have been given for the challenge. What card? One could argue a straight red card. It was considered as denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity. One could argue it was only deserving of a yellow card. Either way, that would have been Koscielny's second yellow of the night and he would be sent off with 20 minutes to go (even more if Messi had missed the penalty and it went into overtime).

    Summary
    Despite all the talk of bad officiating, I think the officiating wasn't as bad as people think. The assistant referees made no wrong calls throughout the match, which is quite impressive. The center referee made two big wrong calls. The first one was the missed penalty call for Barcelona in the 32'. The other big call is the second yellow card for Van Persie. In fact it seemed the referee was too happy to hand out cards for time wasting when they were not warranted. However, I think Arsenal were perhaps lucky not to see Van Persie sent off earlier than the 55'. Now I could continue to talk about how Arsenal did not deserve to go through, but that is not the purpose of this thread. I just wanted to comment on the referees' performances and show that bad calls were made for both teams.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:51 pm

    If the ref didn't send Van Persie off and they still beat us 3-1 fair enough, but they've never beat us without us having a massive disadvantage because they are little ratbags and can't do it any other way. Same way they cheated Chelsea out of it, same way they will try and cheat everyone else out of it.

    I saw Xavi jump a fucking foot in the air before Clichy even touched him on one challenge, 90 thousand cunts screamed.. and they got a free-kick. Like they do every game.
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    Post by SBSP Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:54 pm

    If there was ever a game for you to complain about losing to a poor refereeing decision alone, this is not the game. Laughing
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    Post by Theo Filippo Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:46 pm

    Red Cards - Arsenal:
    Van Persie shouldnt of been sent off because alves deserved it. Therefore arsenal should have 11 men
    Red cards - Barca
    Alves - Diving and hacking fabregas off the ball
    Iniesta - Trying to intimidate a 19 year old
    Valdez - Disgusting elbow to fabregas could of resulted in a fractured skull
    Abidal - Raising a hand to a fellow proffesional.
    I dont think a barcelona fan should be analysing the referees performance i think its clear that barca should of had 7 - 8 men this game and its clear whos side the ref was on
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    Post by Kuled Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:48 pm

    shouldnt have been sent off because Alves deserved it? Laughing fucking hell
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    Post by Mal Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:49 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:I just finished watching the match again (plus the parts I missed) and took notes on the referees' performances throughout the match. I tried to be as unbiased as possible. I also ignored calls that weren't controversial or significant. The following is my review...

    First Half
    27': Van Persie was seen clipping Messi's ankle in a late challenge. The referee correctly called the foul, but did not issue a yellow card to Van Persie. I think one could argue that Van Persie made a reckless challenge by clipping Messi late. I had a hard time deciding if I should even add this to my review.

    28': Sagna gets yellow card for time wasting by throwing the ball to a teammate after being called for a foul. The referee proceeds to book Sagna. I didn't think it was worth a yellow card to be honest. It didn't end up to make a difference at the end of the match.

    32': Messi was swept inside the penalty box. A clear penalty not given by the referee.

    44': Abidal holds Van Persie's neck during a confrontation between both teams. No card was given but one could argue a case for a yellow card on Abidal. Again, Abidal didn't receive a yellow card later in the match so it wouldn't have made a difference.

    45': Van Persie blatantly shoves Alves in the face off the ball. The referee gives Van Persie a yellow card. One could argue a case for a straight red card in this instance. Van Persie had his back to the ball and just blatantly shoved Alves' face. One could also argue Van Persie should have had his second yellow card of the night if they believe he deserved a yellow card in the 27'.

    Second Half
    55': Van Persie shoots the ball after the whistle and gets his second yellow. A very harsh call. No card was warranted.

    70': Koscielny takes down Pedro in the box and a penalty is given. However, no card was given out for the Arsenal defender. I believe a card should have been given for the challenge. What card? One could argue a straight red card. It was considered as denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity. One could argue it was only deserving of a yellow card. Either way, that would have been Koscielny's second yellow of the night and he would be sent off with 20 minutes to go (even more if Messi had missed the penalty and it went into overtime).

    Summary
    Despite all the talk of bad officiating, I think the officiating wasn't as bad as people think. The assistant referees made no wrong calls throughout the match, which is quite impressive. The center referee made two big wrong calls. The first one was the missed penalty call for Barcelona in the 32'. The other big call is the second yellow card for Van Persie. In fact it seemed the referee was too happy to hand out cards for time wasting when they were not warranted. However, I think Arsenal were perhaps lucky not to see Van Persie sent off earlier than the 55'. Now I could continue to talk about how Arsenal did not deserve to go through, but that is not the purpose of this thread. I just wanted to comment on the referees' performances and show that bad calls were made for both teams.

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    If Van Persie's little tap on Alves' face is worth a red card then they should be banned for at least three games. Neutral
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    Post by Kuled Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:51 pm

    Oh my god I didn't see that.
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    Post by blackskar Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:03 pm

    Wait so:

    RVP face touch = red
    Barca hands round neck = yellow at best


    I tried to be as unbiased as possible

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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:10 pm

    Nasri would smash any of their little faces in.

    Hope they all die as soon as possible midget cunts.
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    Post by Kuled Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:13 pm

    You...hope they die???
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:26 pm

    Kuled wrote:You...hope they die???
    Hopefully Alves, Abidal, Adriano and Xavi die as soon as possible.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 pm

    Looking at that, Abidal should of been sent off. I didn't see the game but he is clearly grabbing him around the neck. Laughing


    Whos hand is that around Nasris neck? He should also be sent off.
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    Post by Mal Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:30 pm

    James ♠️ wrote:Looking at that, Abidal should of been sent off. I didn't see the game but he is clearly grabbing him around the neck. Laughing


    Whos hand is that around Nasris neck? He should also be sent off.

    Adriano.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:33 pm

    You niggas cry so much your next sponsor should be Kleenex.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:36 pm

    BigPoppaSmurf wrote:You niggas cry so much your next sponsor should be Kleenex.
    Shit one.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:21 am

    BigPoppaSmurf wrote:You niggas cry so much your next sponsor should be Kleenex.

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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:23 am

    EdinsonCavani wrote:Van Persie shouldnt of been sent off because alves deserved it. Therefore arsenal should have 11 men
    Red cards - Barca
    Alves - Diving and hacking fabregas off the ball
    Iniesta - Trying to intimidate a 19 year old
    Valdez - Disgusting elbow to fabregas could of resulted in a fractured skull
    Abidal - Raising a hand to a fellow proffesional.

    I dont think a barcelona fan should be analysing the referees performance i think its clear that barca should of had 7 - 8 men this game and its clear whos side the ref was on

    facepalm Especially the first one. facepalm
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:26 am

    Over the 2 legs both dodgy things went for and against both sides.. but Barcelona were just much better and deserved to go through.

    Van Persie is an idiot for doing what he done to Alves.. if he didn't do that he wouldn't have been getting a second yellow the prick (I'm not excusing the decision for the second yellow).
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    Post by Kris Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:27 am

    Abidal could have been sent straight off for that shit.

    The rule is crystal clear, after the ref blows the whistle the ball is not to be kicked (or thrown) away from the place of foul or offside. If a player does that intentionally (no matter the reason), he should have a yellow card. I didn't see the situation with Sanga, but the one with RvP was completely off, IMO (I doubt he heard the whistle).

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    Post by Coatsy Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:32 am

    Referee had a shocker let's be honest.
    Van Persie red card absolute joke.Robben did something similar in the World Cup final didn't get booked and it was an obvious time waste.
    Barca should have had a penalty for Diabys foul.
    Abidal should of been off.Perhaps Adriana too.
    Dani Alvez should of been booked. Same for Iniesta.
    These sort of desicions shouldn't happen at this level of football,I don't know maybe we need to help the refs with technology but mr Blatter still thinks football's played with rubber.
    Oh and as for the lino's quality job no errors whatsoever and with Barca who play on the last defender thats really well done.
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:40 am

    Van Persie shouldn't have been sent off.

    But Barca probably should have had a penalty and definitely should have had a goal in the first leg.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:59 am

    I don't feel like a grave injustice was done. The refs were shit, but the shit balanced out. Neither team got a substantive advantage over the other as a result. That said, UEFA and FIFA have to do something about their refs. It's getting fucking ridiculous. You can't have a major competition anymore without the refs factoring in in a major way. You'll never be able to get perfect refs, because refs are merely human. They will fuck up from time to time. But they could start by not hiring narcissists who think that they're part of the game.


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    Post by dena Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:00 am

    Stick to your day job ahly. shifty
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    Post by Mal Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:00 am

    It's time we use technology to our advantage.

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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:02 am

    Mal wrote:It's time we use technology to our advantage.

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    Post by Barton Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:03 am

    As has already been pointed out, the officials were terible over the 2 legs, both clubs have a right to be outraged.

    Barca had a perfectly fine goal disallowed and should've had a penalty in the first leg, so that balances itself out. But of course Arsenal are the real victims because they got demolished at the Nou Camp and lost the tie. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:09 am

    Theo would have banged in 5 against their high line.

    There's no team in Messi.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:51 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    EdinsonCavani wrote:Van Persie shouldnt of been sent off because alves deserved it. Therefore arsenal should have 11 men
    Red cards - Barca
    Alves - Diving and hacking fabregas off the ball
    Iniesta - Trying to intimidate a 19 year old
    Valdez - Disgusting elbow to fabregas could of resulted in a fractured skull
    Abidal - Raising a hand to a fellow proffesional.

    I dont think a barcelona fan should be analysing the referees performance i think its clear that barca should of had 7 - 8 men this game and its clear whos side the ref was on

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    I also need to add the Adriano one to the list that should of been a straight red.
    So arsenal - 11 men
    Barca - 6 men
    Disgusting performance from the referee.
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    Post by coolhead33 Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:00 am

    Any Arsenal fans who feel cheated now know how we felt when they cheated against us.

    I haven't seen the highlights yet.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:02 am

    coolhead33 wrote:Any Arsenal fans who feel cheated now know how we felt when they cheated against us.

    I haven't seen the highlights yet.
    Agreed. Out playing a scum team on their own patch is cheating Rolling Eyes

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