Italy lose Champions League spot

Champions League - Bundesliga to get Italy's spot

Germany will gain a fourth place in the Champions League in 2012/13 at Italy's expense after climbing into third spot in the UEFA coefficient ranking.

From 2012 four Bundesliga teams, instead of three, will be eligible for the Champions League while the fifth and sixth-placed clubs will be entered for the Europa League.

"Italy are no longer able to take over third spot this season," the German Football League said in a statement. "The new ranking gives Bundesliga teams three starting spots in the group stage and a fourth in the playoff games of the competition."
On the other hand, three Serie A teams, instead of four, will be eligible for the Champions League with the top two in the group stage and the third entering the qualifying phase. The fourth and fifth-placed clubs will enter the Europa League.

Germany currently stand behind England and Spain in the coefficient ranking with 68,103 points, having extended their lead over Italy (59,981) to 8,122 points, the DFL added.

DFL chief Reinhard Rauball said he was confident Germany could eventually move even higher in the rankings.
"With a little patience I am convinced we can overtake the (Spanish) Primera Division in the medium term," Rauball said.

On Wednesday, European champions Inter Milan lost 1-0 at home to last season's runners-up Bayern Munich, while Italy's other two clubs in the last 16 of the Champions League, AC Milan and Roma, both lost their first-leg matches at home.

Sampdoria were knocked out in the qualifying stage.

On Thursday, Serie A's last representative in the Europa League, Napoli, went out after a 2-1 defeat by Villarreal, raising the real possibility that there will be no Italian interest in the next round of European competitions.

Among German clubs, along with Bayern's win, Schalke 04 drew at Valencia in the Champions League and, while VfB Stuttgart exited the Europa League after losing at home to Benfica, Bayer Leverkusen reached the last 16 by beating Metalist Kharkiv.

The success of Italian clubs in Europe has steadily declined. From 1990-1999 they won 13 European trophies - three European Cup/Champions Leagues, seven UEFA Cups and three Cup Winners' Cups. Since 2000 they have won three Champions Leagues.

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Scotland get another one

German league is building fast.

Good. Think the Bundesliga is a lot better, and now a stronger league.

Don't think Germany will be able to overtake Spain in 2nd spot though

I swear germany only have Bayern progressing past the semi's year after year while italy has like atleast 2 in contention or something

Tom wrote:I swear germany only have Bayern progressing past the semi's year after year while italy has like atleast 2 in contention or something

True

Bayern aren't even the best in the league though, Dortmund have a 13 point lead on them, they are 3rd and they have a 10 point lead on 2nd which is Leverkusen, it will be interesting to see how Dortmund go in the Champions League next season.

Denmark to get another spot in qualification next season, and a direct spot in 2012

Serie A is declining further and further

Italy is basically out of Europe this season.

I Dont get this theres only been bayern from germany that have done fuck all in the CL for the last few seasons, 2 italian teas have won it and and have generally progressed further, im not sure on this but i also think roma, juve, fiorentina etc have done better than the none-bayern german teams as well so im confused

Good.

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:I Dont get this theres only been bayern from germany that have done fuck all in the CL for the last few seasons, 2 italian teas have won it and and have generally progressed further, im not sure on this but i also think roma, juve, fiorentina etc have done better than the none-bayern german teams as well so im confused

You get the same amount of points from progressing in the UEFA Cup as in the Champions League.


You have to wonder if Italy will ever recover from this.

The anti-Italian biasm in English forums.

but Germany deserves it.

I hope Poland get's an additional spot next season. Right now we are very close to it and one more run from a team like Lech next year and we'll get the extra spot. (In favor of a crap league like Scotland I guess :troll: )

polska. wrote:The anti-Italian biasm in English forums.

but Germany deserves it.

I hope Poland get's an additional spot next season. Right now we are very close to it and one more run from a team like Lech next year and we'll get the extra spot. (In favor of a crap league like Scotland I guess )

How many Polish teams are still in Europe
But yeah. Italy deserves to lose the spot. Their teams have been going downhill for a few years now. Inter doesnt count because that was all Mourinho

Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Your opinion is silly, if they deserve it then they can go out and earn it by getting in the top 3 of their league, its what they get for underperforming in Europe as a whole, Inter and AC can't carry them through they all have to pull their weight if they qualify.

Finally

Lets see how Germany does next year.

i see now why gattuso lost his head. he knew what was coming.

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

To right, scummy fans think it is okay to stab English team fans.

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik

Theeeooo wrote:

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik

Lucky to get to the quarter finals imo.

Danny wrote:

Theeeooo wrote:

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik

Lucky to get to the quarter finals imo.

In the Cl? i reckon they would give tottenham a better game than milan

Theeeooo wrote:

Danny wrote:

Theeeooo wrote:

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Cavani + Lavezzi + Hamsik

Lucky to get to the quarter finals imo.

In the Cl? i reckon they would give tottenham a better game than milan

Think a lot of teams could give Spurs a better game than Milan tbh.

good, I don't like watching fixed CL matches

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Danny how can you judge them when you don't even watch Lazio or Napoli let alone Serie A football? Napoli have a bright future with Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi. Obviously these players will not stay there forever as they are being looked at by the top European clubs but under the right managment, they have showed potential. They have showed that they can be a good club in Europe and that's why they are 2nd in the table. Lazio also have the potential but just don't have that clinical striker but if they do find him they will be a side to contend in Europe aswell.

Kuled wrote:

Danny wrote:

Kuled wrote:Teams like Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio deserve champions league football. This is unfair imo.

Rubbish

I couldn't see Lazio and Napoli doing much in the latter stages of the competition, AC Milan are just so poor compared to a few years ago, and Inter would probably have got no where near winning it last year if they didn't have Mourinho.

The decline in Italian football fom when it was probably the best league in the world in the 90s is quite mad. That late 90s Juve team was brilliant, it's a wonder how we got past them in 99

Danny how can you judge them when you don't even watch Lazio or Napoli let alone Serie A football? Napoli have a bright future with Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi. Obviously these players will not stay there forever as they are being looked at by the top European clubs but under the right managment, they have showed potential. They have showed that they can be a good club in Europe and that's why they are 2nd in the table. Lazio also have the potential but just don't have that clinical striker but if they do find him they will be a side to contend in Europe aswell.

What happened to Rocchi for lazio? He was a beast, Hernanes