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    Post by Zzonked Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:52 pm

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20523405

    My initial reaction is terrible idea.
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    Post by Forest Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:58 pm

    I actually quite like the idea shifty

    The Europa League is shit. Would also make teams like Liverpool and Newcastle respect the competition.

    Plus it would make the PL more competitive. Most teams usually have nothing to play for in the League and we get the same bunch of teams qualifying for Europe every year. This format would give the likes of West Brom and Fulham more of an incentive towards the end of the season, rather than just settling for their annual mid table finish
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    Post by JamieB Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:59 pm

    A change would be good for it but i woudn't remove it all together and do that, would be way too many teams.
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    Post by Kuled Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:01 pm

    No thanks. Mid-table teams shouldn't be in the Champions League.
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    Post by Zzonked Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:02 pm

    ForestLAD wrote:I actually quite like the idea Champions league could be doubled - Europa league scrapped 279869

    The Europa League is shit. Would also make teams like Liverpool and Newcastle respect the competition.

    Plus it would make the PL more competitive. Most teams usually have nothing to play for in the League and we get the same bunch of teams qualifying for Europe every year. This format would give the likes of West Brom and Fulham more of an incentive towards the end of the season, rather than just settling for their annual mid table finish

    It may help the premier league, but it would ruin a lot of the appeal of the champions league.
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    Post by Childish Logic Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:03 pm

    It's bad and good.


    Teams without a big fanbase would get more coverage but they would get screwed over in the long run. (money would suck and no real chance of winning).

    It would be better for me as a liverpool fan but as a football fan. i would hate this idea.

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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:03 pm

    Fucking horrific Idea.
    If that happens, It will mark the end of european football all together.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:09 pm

    Seriously anyone you thinks this is a idea should fuck off and die in a ditch.

    The Champions League is has been made shitter already enough as it is.
    Its not really the champions league its just a compitition between different nations teams, not realy a CHAMPIONS league, key word champions.

    They should scrap the current format and make the Champions league for Champions only and increase the size of the Europa league so leagues runners up get into instead of going into the champions league.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:48 pm

    Kuled wrote:No thanks. Mid-table teams shouldn't be in the Champions League.

    Nor should second places teams.
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    Post by Kuled Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:58 pm

    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:
    Kuled wrote:No thanks. Mid-table teams shouldn't be in the Champions League.

    Nor should second places teams.
    That's stupid. Uefa would lose a lot of money if Man United, Barcelona etc wouldn't play. If a team like Fulham have a big chance at playing in the Champions League it wouldn't be as exciting.
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    Post by Jorlung Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:58 pm

    20Legend wrote:Seriously anyone you thinks this is a idea should fuck off and die in a ditch.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:00 am

    Kuled wrote:
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    Nor should second places teams.
    That's stupid. Uefa would lose a lot of money if Man United, Barcelona etc wouldn't play. If a team like Fulham have a big chance at playing in the Champions League it wouldn't be as exciting.

    And they would make a lot of money by doubling the size.

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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:01 am

    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:
    Kuled wrote:No thanks. Mid-table teams shouldn't be in the Champions League.

    Nor should second places teams.
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    Post by Muhkoo Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 am

    Not sure if its good or bad, it would only add another set of play-offs if they stick with the format (play it even earlier than feb or semi's closer to final) however the idea of having more than 4 teams from the top leagues isn't okay, i'd rather only see the 2 best from the top leagues at very most 3 if they have the CL champion.
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    Post by SBSP Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:22 am

    Childish Logic wrote:It's bad and good.


    Teams without a big fanbase would get more coverage but they would get screwed over in the long run. (money would suck and no real chance of winning).

    It would be better for me as a liverpool fan but as a football fan. i would hate this idea.

    Because everyone in the Champions League now has a great chance of winning.
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    Post by Bushido Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:28 am

    Kuled wrote:No thanks. Mid-table teams shouldn't be in the Champions League.

    There are 20 teams in the league. 20 -10 = 10. Champions league extended to 7 spots. Interesting logic there.

    Ok so if this is going to happen wont the prize money go down to cater to more teams?
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:29 am

    Ayvee will like this idea, might see Inverness in The Champions League next season.
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    Post by SBSP Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:34 am

    My only gripe is that it kind of takes the glamour out of the Champions League.
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    Post by ayvee1 Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:55 am

    Templeton7|RFC wrote:Ayvee will like this idea, might see Inverness in The Champions League next season.
    I was speaking to someone about this earlier. It would be amazing to see them in the CL. Bias aside though, I'm not sure it's such a great idea for European football.
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    Post by Scuba Steve Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:57 am

    Would be a shame if the EL was dropped. A wonderful distraction from the monotony of the Champions League.
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    Post by George Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:28 am

    I don't like this idea. It would take the magic out of competing in the Champions League. However, from a financial point of view, it would be brilliant. The money you make from playing in the Champions League should enable teams like Newcastle, Everton and West Brom (currently) to compete at a higher level every season.
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    Post by Dr. Ján Ĩtor Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:30 am

    20Legend wrote:Seriously anyone you thinks this is a idea should fuck off and die in a ditch.

    The Champions League is has been made shitter already enough as it is.
    Its not really the champions league its just a compitition between different nations teams, not realy a CHAMPIONS league, key word champions.

    They should scrap the current format and make the Champions league for Champions only and increase the size of the Europa league so leagues runners up get into instead of going into the champions league.

    So this years champions league would have no Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Chelsea, Milan, Benfica, PSG etc and would instead be filled up with wank teams that won the estonian league and the likes, brilliant idea, would really increase the value of the champions league. Its like saying swansea shouldnt be in the ENGLISH premier league hurr durr it's a stupid idea where the only logic behind it is the name which is totally irrelevent.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:36 am

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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:00 am

    Dr. Ján Ĩtor wrote:
    20Legend wrote:Seriously anyone you thinks this is a idea should fuck off and die in a ditch.

    The Champions League is has been made shitter already enough as it is.
    Its not really the champions league its just a compitition between different nations teams, not realy a CHAMPIONS league, key word champions.

    They should scrap the current format and make the Champions league for Champions only and increase the size of the Europa league so leagues runners up get into instead of going into the champions league.

    So this years champions league would have no Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Chelsea, Milan, Benfica, PSG etc and would instead be filled up with wank teams that won the estonian league and the likes, brilliant idea, would really increase the value of the champions league. Its like saying swansea shouldnt be in the ENGLISH premier league hurr durr it's a stupid idea where the only logic behind it is the name which is totally irrelevent.

    It shouldn't have any more then it has now, If it does it will just be shit.

    Maybe not just champions, But the top 2 maybe. Would make it a much more exciting competition and make league competitions more exciting too.

    To be honest they are a welsh too sooooooooooooo.
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:18 am

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    Childish Logic wrote:It's bad and good.


    Teams without a big fanbase would get more coverage but they would get screwed over in the long run. (money would suck and no real chance of winning).

    It would be better for me as a liverpool fan but as a football fan. i would hate this idea.


    Because everyone in the Champions League now has a great chance of winning.

    So why put more teams into it........
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    Post by Muhkoo Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:43 am

    These are largely the same comments that came around 20 years ago.

    Nothing is really gonna change for better or worse i think.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:26 pm

    Dr. Ján Ĩtor wrote:
    20Legend wrote:Seriously anyone you thinks this is a idea should fuck off and die in a ditch.

    The Champions League is has been made shitter already enough as it is.
    Its not really the champions league its just a compitition between different nations teams, not realy a CHAMPIONS league, key word champions.

    They should scrap the current format and make the Champions league for Champions only and increase the size of the Europa league so leagues runners up get into instead of going into the champions league.

    So this years champions league would have no Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Chelsea, Milan, Benfica, PSG etc and would instead be filled up with wank teams that won the estonian league and the likes, brilliant idea, would really increase the value of the champions league. Its like saying swansea shouldnt be in the ENGLISH premier league hurr durr it's a stupid idea where the only logic behind it is the name which is totally irrelevent.
    Yeah, for some reason people really take the competition name too literally.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:56 pm

    Theo Filippo wrote:
    Dr. Ján Ĩtor wrote:

    So this years champions league would have no Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Chelsea, Milan, Benfica, PSG etc and would instead be filled up with wank teams that won the estonian league and the likes, brilliant idea, would really increase the value of the champions league. Its like saying swansea shouldnt be in the ENGLISH premier league hurr durr it's a stupid idea where the only logic behind it is the name which is totally irrelevent.
    Yeah, for some reason people really take the competition name too literally.

    Why call it the Champions League if its not a league for champions ? Little misleading.

    But main point should be how it was before like in this year.
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    All teams.... Champions.
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    Post by dena Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:04 pm

    NOOOO.

    The CL is a decent size as is, I would probably want it to be smaller, but the Group stage encompassing much of the fall and KO rounds in the spring is a decent structure. Adding more teams and expanding the group stage would just water it down.

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