Has Torres been disrespectful to Liverpool?

Tom wrote:How is Ronaldo anyway like Torres, he wanted out the first Madrid calling and never showed signs of him being actually loyal. Then you have the whole situation Pool are in and who's trying to buy Torres

Dear El Nino – Fernando Torres,
I do not know if you will ever see this letter or if somewhere in Liverpool you are lying awake like me, unable to sleep thinking.. thinking.. Nando, one thing supporting LFC has taught us is that we must have faith when everyone around us has lost hope. It is for that reason I write this letter – until the referee blows the final whistle, I always believe we have a chance to make things right.
Friday brought the news of Chelsea FC having a bid rejected for you, £35m allegedly. I laughed when I heard of the bid and the number, I thought Fernando Torres is worth more than £ and numbers, Chelsea can have their big money but big money doesn’t buy our Nando’s affections!
All my favourite journalists were telling me we had no reason to worry, that with King Kenny in charge and Liverpool looking to sign Suarez Nando would never desert us. I never needed to read that because I never questioned your loyalty but it was good to hear nonetheless.
Then Mr Balague spoke saying you wanted to leave Liverpool and you had asked Liverpool to listen to offers. I laughed at that too! I have a lot of respect for Guiliem but I said, unless Fernando Torres comes out himself and says he is leaving, I will NEVER question his loyalty.
I knew people were thinking I was stupid, stubborn and naive but I didn’t care. When you believe in someone or something, the true test of your faith is during the bad times not during the good!
All day I was hearing the same rumours flying around, all day I watched as more and more people began to lose faith. The silence was deafening. The buzz of rumours and hearsay too loud. Still, I kept faith refusing to question your love and loyalty to Liverpool FC and to the fans.
I must have fallen asleep at some point during the night only to be woken at 3am with a need to search the news. There it was in black and red. The words I did not want to see or hear all day. The words I was refusing to accept even as I read them; Fernando Torres has handed in a transfer request.
My heart broke Nando as did so many others tonight.. They say something feels like a kick in the stomach – this felt like Stevie G had smashed the ball straight at me gut.
I can not see what will happen for the rest of the year, I do not know whether LFC will be pushing upwards or falling back downwards until May. But I can tell you that Liverpool FC needs you to help us fight to move upwards.
Fernando, you do not need a history lesson from me explaining to you why you should not leave us. And I will not give you one. I will speak openly to you about what you mean to us and what we mean to you.
Nando when you joined Liverpool FC fresh from Spain, we had already fallen in love with you because of your famous armband. But, the day you stood up to John Terry against Chelsea was the day you wrote yourself into Liverpool legend..
We sang for you Nando, home and away. We cheered for you every time you came on and clapped you every time you came off. Our song for you followed us around Europe to Atletico and to the Bernabeau where we showed your rivals you were ours! When you were not even on the pitch we sang your name. When you played well we cheered your every touch and when you played poorly we stood up for you.
We fell in love with Spain because of you Nando, Liverpool became Spain in honour of you. We made friends with your fans in Atletico because of you. We sat with them and sang your name aide by side. We watched you as you played for the Spanish National team, praying you would come back home happy and free of injuries.
We watched as you scored the winning goal against Germany and you won the world cup in South Africa. We followed the post world cup festivities only see your face – your joy! We cried when we saw you celebrating with a Liverpool scarf on and we smiled knowing you were ours and we were yours.
We made Merseyside your home Nando. We afforded you every respect. Stopping you in the street to ask about your family; your wife and beautiful children.
Our children made you their heroes, you fulfilled their dreams every time you scored. You made them happy Nando. You made us all happy.
We waved our flags bearing your name, fans paid money to create flags placing you and King Kenny side by side. Some of us bought our first Liverpool shirts with your name on. We bought your autobiography and cried over your love and dedication to us…
We gave you our love Nando and you made us happy. You respected us. Clapped us when you scored and when we lost. You understood us Nando, understood our passion to succeed.
But it has been a tough 18 months for us all. Fans and players alike. We watched as we nearly lost our great club, we sang, protested and marched and we won that battle. Then, we watched our performances get worse on the pitch, listened as so many people criticised you but we took to our forums, blogs and twitter defending your abilities. When King Kenny took over, we saw a new Liverpool. A happy team fighting for the club and the manager. We saw you Nando proving your doubters wrong – proving us right.
Fernando, I think what hurts us the most from this is that we do not understand the timing of your request. King Kenny loves you, he has faith in you and needs you to help get his club out of this mess. Leaving us in January, Nando would be as bad as a soldier turning back on his men when the battle is at it’s most trying moment..
I will end this letter now by asking you to think of our bond, our love and our respect for you before you make a decision. Know this Nando, no team will love you the way we have and still do..
People may think me naive and idiotic for having held faith in you for so long, but it is my way – it is The Liverpool Way. But, If you leave Nando, we will console ourselves knowing that players come and go but the club and it’s crest will always remain.
YNWA – A besotted fan

Cam wrote:I don't remember us teasing them tbh

Tom wrote:How is Ronaldo anyway like Torres, he wanted out the first Madrid calling and never showed signs of him being actually loyal. Then you have the whole situation Pool are in and who's trying to buy Torres

The-Reporter wrote:This is the gayest thing i've ever read...

And0TheGr8 wrote:

Tom wrote:How is Ronaldo anyway like Torres, he wanted out the first Madrid calling and never showed signs of him being actually loyal. Then you have the whole situation Pool are in and who's trying to buy Torres

it really isn't too similar i guess...Madrid was Ronaldo's dream team and he had always wanted to play there, he won absolutely EVERYTHING under the sun with United and there was honestly nothing else that he could really accomplish, he won every award and every trophy. Torres is already at his favorite club, but here come Chelsea with the bundles of cash and an opportunity for top Prem and CL football, not in the future, but right now, so you can't really blame him for considering it...it was understandable why Ronaldo left and i still love the guy just as much as i did when he was in red, but i don't think Liverpool supporters will be able to feel the same way about Torres.......if he leaves

ayvee1 wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:This is the gayest thing i've ever read...

It is a bit cringeworthy, whatever happened to no player is bigger than the club?

dena wrote:Whoa, that's really sappy. Wonder if rolo wrote it.

menalawyerguy wrote:Though I understand Liverpool fans' anger, if you put emotions aside and look at things objectively, you might actually conclude that this could benefit Liverpool in the long run. Torres's value will never be higher than it is now. You can sell him for a boatload of dough and buy one or two younger, fresher up-and-comers. Furthermore, it's been a while since Torres was spectacular. He's had some flashes of brilliance but he's also had some flashes of putridity. If you look at it like a business decision, this could wind up being good for Liverpool.

Danny wrote:

Tom wrote:How is Ronaldo anyway like Torres, he wanted out the first Madrid calling and never showed signs of him being actually loyal. Then you have the whole situation Pool are in and who's trying to buy Torres

Signed a new contract in 2007 tbf.

I dunno, is that loyalty though? They don't mean much nowadays imo.

ayvee1 wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:This is the gayest thing i've ever read...

It is a bit cringeworthy, whatever happened to no player is bigger than the club?

Tom wrote:Who the fuck invited Rooneysrightboot, complete twat

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:Though I understand Liverpool fans' anger, if you put emotions aside and look at things objectively, you might actually conclude that this could benefit Liverpool in the long run. Torres's value will never be higher than it is now. You can sell him for a boatload of dough and buy one or two younger, fresher up-and-comers. Furthermore, it's been a while since Torres was spectacular. He's had some flashes of brilliance but he's also had some flashes of putridity. If you look at it like a business decision, this could wind up being good for Liverpool.

Torres can help them reach a 4th spot finish resulting in attraction
Torres leaving will put Liverpool backwards despite the money
Torres leaving will lose valuable publicity
Torres could help Chelsea and frankly Chelsea are the most hated out of the top 4
Torres went back on his word despite appearing to be loyal

The list is endless

LFCJordan wrote:

ayvee1 wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:This is the gayest thing i've ever read...

It is a bit cringeworthy, whatever happened to no player is bigger than the club?

What happened to no club bigger than LFC?

menalawyerguy wrote:

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:Though I understand Liverpool fans' anger, if you put emotions aside and look at things objectively, you might actually conclude that this could benefit Liverpool in the long run. Torres's value will never be higher than it is now. You can sell him for a boatload of dough and buy one or two younger, fresher up-and-comers. Furthermore, it's been a while since Torres was spectacular. He's had some flashes of brilliance but he's also had some flashes of putridity. If you look at it like a business decision, this could wind up being good for Liverpool.

Torres can help them reach a 4th spot finish resulting in attraction
Torres leaving will put Liverpool backwards despite the money
Torres leaving will lose valuable publicity
Torres could help Chelsea and frankly Chelsea are the most hated out of the top 4
Torres went back on his word despite appearing to be loyal

The list is endless

First of all, the list isn't endless. Secondly, what's your point? I didn't say it was all good. There are pros and cons to every situation. All I'm saying is that Liverpool could benefit in some ways to him leaving. We won't know the true impact for a few years anyway.


Also, it's time for us to grow up about this so-called "loyalty" concept. This is business. Plain and simple.

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:Though I understand Liverpool fans' anger, if you put emotions aside and look at things objectively, you might actually conclude that this could benefit Liverpool in the long run. Torres's value will never be higher than it is now. You can sell him for a boatload of dough and buy one or two younger, fresher up-and-comers. Furthermore, it's been a while since Torres was spectacular. He's had some flashes of brilliance but he's also had some flashes of putridity. If you look at it like a business decision, this could wind up being good for Liverpool.

Torres can help them reach a 4th spot finish resulting in attraction
Torres leaving will put Liverpool backwards despite the money
Torres leaving will lose valuable publicity
Torres could help Chelsea and frankly Chelsea are the most hated out of the top 4
Torres went back on his word despite appearing to be loyal

The list is endless

First of all, the list isn't endless. Secondly, what's your point? I didn't say it was all good. There are pros and cons to every situation. All I'm saying is that Liverpool could benefit in some ways to him leaving. We won't know the true impact for a few years anyway.


Also, it's time for us to grow up about this so-called "loyalty" concept. This is business. Plain and simple.

There's clearly more cons than pros, you're trying to sympathize but it's pointless because the con list is ridiculously long... no it's not endless, would you rather me noted a long list which metaphorically is endless?

You're using direct language but we know Liverpool are going way down without Torres. Oh and my point? that there practically is no pros, what's money if you can't attract? you'll end up spending more money on the shits than the good players

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Tom wrote:Who the fuck invited Rooneysrightboot, complete twat

Nobody invited me, I do what I want.

JMB_94 wrote:Menalawyerguy, i don't give a flying fuck what your signature says.

menalawyerguy wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:Menalawyerguy, i don't give a flying fuck what your signature says.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Tom wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:Though I understand Liverpool fans' anger, if you put emotions aside and look at things objectively, you might actually conclude that this could benefit Liverpool in the long run. Torres's value will never be higher than it is now. You can sell him for a boatload of dough and buy one or two younger, fresher up-and-comers. Furthermore, it's been a while since Torres was spectacular. He's had some flashes of brilliance but he's also had some flashes of putridity. If you look at it like a business decision, this could wind up being good for Liverpool.

Torres can help them reach a 4th spot finish resulting in attraction
Torres leaving will put Liverpool backwards despite the money
Torres leaving will lose valuable publicity
Torres could help Chelsea and frankly Chelsea are the most hated out of the top 4
Torres went back on his word despite appearing to be loyal

The list is endless

First of all, the list isn't endless. Secondly, what's your point? I didn't say it was all good. There are pros and cons to every situation. All I'm saying is that Liverpool could benefit in some ways to him leaving. We won't know the true impact for a few years anyway.


Also, it's time for us to grow up about this so-called "loyalty" concept. This is business. Plain and simple.

There's clearly more cons than pros, you're trying to sympathize but it's pointless because the con list is ridiculously long... no it's not endless, would you rather me noted a long list which metaphorically is endless?

You're using direct language but we know Liverpool are going way down without Torres. Oh and my point? that there practically is no pros, what's money if you can't attract? you'll end up spending more money on the shits than the good players

I'm not trying to sympathize. I'm trying to be objective. Emotions are pointless. There's no way to know how good or bad this is going to be for Liverpool because we don't know how good Torres is going to be from now on. Who's to say he isn't done being an elite player? He hasn't done much in a very long time now. On the other hand, he might return to prime form. Nobody knows. All you can if you're Liverpool is trying to make lemonade.