Wayne Rooney vs Fernando Torres

I don't even think he was properly fit. Was saying it during the world cup that he shouldn't have started.

Don't know why we're talking about World Cup performances.

dena wrote:I still stand by what I said, obviously Torres is a service type striker and w/o Gerrard in best form he will suffer. But that doesn't excuse his general performances to me, when he doesn't score he seems petulant, disinterested, and when he does score (Chelsea - Blackpool etc.) he can't keep it up. After ten minutes in the Blackpool game he was invisible.

Did you watch the derby and the game against Man Utd? With Kenny in charge hes a completely different player, he just wasn't happy under Roy is all, his attitude was great, he was chasing down lost causes, he might not have had the best games but he certainly tried his best, he worked his butt off despite having no service.

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

dena wrote:I still stand by what I said, obviously Torres is a service type striker and w/o Gerrard in best form he will suffer. But that doesn't excuse his general performances to me, when he doesn't score he seems petulant, disinterested, and when he does score (Chelsea - Blackpool etc.) he can't keep it up. After ten minutes in the Blackpool game he was invisible.

Did you watch the derby and the game against Man Utd? With Kenny in charge hes a completely different player, he just wasn't happy under Roy is all, his attitude was great, he was chasing down lost causes, he might not have had the best games but he certainly tried his best, he worked his butt off despite having no service.

Against us?

What did he do against us?

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

dena wrote:I still stand by what I said, obviously Torres is a service type striker and w/o Gerrard in best form he will suffer. But that doesn't excuse his general performances to me, when he doesn't score he seems petulant, disinterested, and when he does score (Chelsea - Blackpool etc.) he can't keep it up. After ten minutes in the Blackpool game he was invisible.

Did you watch the derby and the game against Man Utd? With Kenny in charge hes a completely different player, he just wasn't happy under Roy is all, his attitude was great, he was chasing down lost causes, he might not have had the best games but he certainly tried his best, he worked his butt off despite having no service.

Yeah, thought he didn't do much vs. United, even pressuring the CBs. And like I said about the B'pool game, he went blank after he scored. I've watched every game under Daglish and I don't see a massive difference. Even if I did, three games doesnt excuse half a season of poor performances does it? Overall he's still been pretty bad.

He done fuck all v us, and even Liverpool fans after the game said he was lazy in that game.

Kuled wrote:Berbatov turned into rooney of last season and rooney turned into berbatov of last season

No way. Berbatov has been no where near Rooney of last season. He's has been good this season with his goal scoring but he way way better with his touches and link up play in his first season. Some of his touches were more orgasmic than the goals. I remember the one he did against West Ham a couple of seasons ago to set up Ronaldo, That was just brilliant.

This : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJ9wdXXbwY&playnext=1&list=PL922AF7BCF35330F8&index=37

Yeah tbh, Rooney last season >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Add more arrows) Berba this season.

kyro7 wrote:He wasn't match fit, just had an injury and was coming back.

After playing the first few games im pretty sure he would be match fit. If he wasn't the manager wouldn't start him.

kyro7 wrote:Yeah tbh, Rooney last season >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Add more arrows) Berba this season.

Rooney's anus >(x10^58th) Berba

The only reason Rooney isn't at his best is because he was on drugs.

kyro7 wrote:The only reason Rooney isn't at his best is because he was on drugs.

Source?

Nm
Here's a shot of him smoking down that just surfaced in The Sun moments ago

I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

menalawyerguy wrote:Nm
Here's a shot of him smoking down that just surfaced in The Sun moments ago

You must be a good lawyer

The-Reporter wrote:I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

I was only taking the piss because Dean said he was in rehab.

Is pussy a drug?

The-Reporter wrote:I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

Fabianski always used to look like he was sky high, he acted as if he saw a unicorn on pitch

kyro7 wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

I was only taking the piss because Dean said he was in rehab.

And he doesn't want to give his source because he's afraid that the Wikileaks, Goal.com and The Sun spies floating around our forum will put it on the front page immediately therafter.

Tom wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

Fabianski always used to look like he was sky high, he acted as if he saw a unicorn on pitch

Fabianski filmed this video 1 hour before a match.

Torres.

Although Rooney contributes more to the team when he isn't scoring goals I suppose, but he's a striker so he needs to score. Torres wins.

The-Reporter wrote:

kyro7 wrote:He wasn't match fit, just had an injury and was coming back.

After playing the first few games im pretty sure he would be match fit. If he wasn't the manager wouldn't start him.

He wasn't though, he was sluggish, had heavy/poor touches wasn't even close to being match fit, in both cases Liverpool and Spain had bothed rushed Torres back too soon which affected his game. If you have Torres available to you, telling you hes ready to play upfront with Villa having seen what they could do in Euro 08, wouldn't you play him?

Tough one this.

I'd say Rooney purely because he offers more then just a goal scorer, and even when Rooney's off form he is still a threat. Unlike Torres, when hes not playing well he's pretty much useless.

Still, the English media overates Rooney beyond belief, we've actually had him compared to the likes of Messi and Ronaldo. He isn't THAT good.

The-Reporter wrote:

Tom wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:I dont see how taking drugs will effect performances after you have recovered from them. Plus what kind of drugs? It must have been injected, something like heroine. Also if he was on drugs and admitted it he would be banned from playing. FIFA would probably investigate. They do drug tests for a reason - if you take them you get a massive ban.

Rooney was not on drugs imo.

Fabianski always used to look like he was sky high, he acted as if he saw a unicorn on pitch

Fabianski filmed this video 1 hour before a match.

kyro7 wrote:

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

dena wrote:I still stand by what I said, obviously Torres is a service type striker and w/o Gerrard in best form he will suffer. But that doesn't excuse his general performances to me, when he doesn't score he seems petulant, disinterested, and when he does score (Chelsea - Blackpool etc.) he can't keep it up. After ten minutes in the Blackpool game he was invisible.

Did you watch the derby and the game against Man Utd? With Kenny in charge hes a completely different player, he just wasn't happy under Roy is all, his attitude was great, he was chasing down lost causes, he might not have had the best games but he certainly tried his best, he worked his butt off despite having no service.

Against us?

What did he do against us?

Fuck all.

Evans couldn't have asked for an easier return to the team, in hindsight obviously.

Torres.

Danny wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

dena wrote:I still stand by what I said, obviously Torres is a service type striker and w/o Gerrard in best form he will suffer. But that doesn't excuse his general performances to me, when he doesn't score he seems petulant, disinterested, and when he does score (Chelsea - Blackpool etc.) he can't keep it up. After ten minutes in the Blackpool game he was invisible.

Did you watch the derby and the game against Man Utd? With Kenny in charge hes a completely different player, he just wasn't happy under Roy is all, his attitude was great, he was chasing down lost causes, he might not have had the best games but he certainly tried his best, he worked his butt off despite having no service.

Against us?

What did he do against us?

Fuck all.

Evans couldn't have asked for an easier return to the team, in hindsight obviously.

true. evans had torres in his velvet lined shorts all afternoon.

3 - The top 3 scorers since Aug 2007 excluding penalties 1. Torres 63, =2. Berbatov 49 =2. Tevez 49. Bang.

grenade187 wrote:3 - The top 3 scorers since Aug 2007 excluding penalties 1. Torres 63, =2. Berbatov 49 =2. Tevez 49. Bang.

What the hell does that have to do with this thread?

Basically yo it means dat like rooney is swag cos my man torres is lyk highest scored since aug 2007 ugetme, mans doin his ting scoring 63 goals ugetme