by Guest Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:55 am
GK01 wrote: 'orrible bastard wrote: GK01 wrote: yarnbury11 wrote: GK01 wrote:West Ham
Spurs moving out of North London is a sicking thought for me
, we only want it as well because it will be half the price of building over WHL, but is the money worth it if it robs us of our identity?
Why's it sickening for you? You live like 10000 miles away!
Just because I live miles and miles away doesn't mean I don't love the club as much of people in England etc.
thing is, i support Wolves, i'm not from there and i have no family from there. i don't hate Albion like how all my mates hate Albion. there are alot of things that i have in common with my fellow Wolves fans but an awful lot of differences too! they pretty much all hate Londoners whereas i would consider myself a Londoner (they have accepted me though!)
As someoe who is not a Wulfrunian but is as big a Wolves fan as any of my friends i have made in the 12 years i have now had my season ticket, i fail to see how anyone who isn't bought up around a football club from a very early age can have developed the exact same feeling of "territorialness" towards a city, a stadium or a clubs local rivals as the locals have developed when in constant close proximity to a football club!
i fail to see how foreign based fans have developed a deep ceded hatred for "their" clubs local rivals and have developed the exact same feelings of "territorialness" towards everything to do with "their" team!
i'm not saying you don't love spurs as much as a spurs fan from seven sisters, but i would say you don't feel everything the same way!
I understand your point, but I believe in the feelings I feel are the same as the Spurs fans from Seven Sisters, and I can understand why you don't believe that they are the same, but in all honesty we may never know whose belief is the right one.
Don't know if that made any sense but yeah
i'll have to respectfully disagree with you.
there are parallels between being a Wolves fan in Basingstoke and a Spurs fan in Australia! neither of us live in an area where we are constantly around our fellow fans and those of our main rivals! therefore the hatred which is ingrained in those people does not exist in us - it cant, and im speaking as someone who spends alot of time in the West Midlands! i know i don't feel how my friends do about Albion because i see the anger on their faces when W.B.A are as much as mentioned, and they are emotions i recognise in myself, but directed towards different teams. teams whose fans i grew up with whom i absoloutely fucking hate!
Being a Football fan is a very individual experience which is shaped by individual experiences - when those experiences are shared as a collective, thats when people start to share the same opinions. speaking from experience i think you would be shocked by the venom of fans and the acrid atmosphere which is produced
at a North London Derby (or any other derby). when i attend a Black Country Derby i'm not shocked but i do recognise that the atmosphere is far more intense than my personal feelings towards the opposition, and my mates find it hilarious when i stand alone venting my anger at Reading or Southampton.
you may think you hate Arsenal as much as the next Spurs fan, but watching on TV and gauging opinions on internet forums is no way to form that intense rivalry. you and many other international fans have manufactured feelings that the media and popular culture have suggested you should feel - its not the same! and this extends to your perceived feeling of identity to an area you've (hardly?) (n)ever been to.
