West Ham or Tottenham for the Olympic stadium?

'orrible bastard wrote:

Luxz0rz wrote:All the Jews..er I mean Tottenham fans...don't live near White Hart Lane anyway. They all live in Golders Green and Enfield and Stratford is hardly near those places

you'll find there are far more jewish Arsenal fans than Spurs. i'm pretty sure that United would have more too.

my comments about immigrants living in Tottenham was in no way a racist slur either, just an observation that in the immediate area around WHL there are a hell of alot of foreign nationals! not people descendant of them but actual foreigners who have no affiliation to there local football club whatsoever!

Man United are owned by Jews.

Jews that were alive during world war 2 and had Hitler hunting them down in fact!

The-Reporter wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

Luxz0rz wrote:All the Jews..er I mean Tottenham fans...don't live near White Hart Lane anyway. They all live in Golders Green and Enfield and Stratford is hardly near those places

you'll find there are far more jewish Arsenal fans than Spurs. i'm pretty sure that United would have more too.

my comments about immigrants living in Tottenham was in no way a racist slur either, just an observation that in the immediate area around WHL there are a hell of alot of foreign nationals! not people descendant of them but actual foreigners who have no affiliation to there local football club whatsoever!

Man United are owned by Jews.

Jews that were alive during world war 2 and had Hitler hunting them down in fact!

i find it funny that most people consider it to be a negative and a source of ridicule to be in cahoots with the jewish!

Spurs are owned by jews too - Daniel Levy anyone?

what about Chelsea? Abramovich seems very much like a jewish name to me!

Arsenal fans really should but dont know any better! what about Arsenals owners? Kroenke and Fiszman have significant holdings in the club! i suppose they are gool ol' fashioned christian names are they?

Fuck me. what about Usmanov? he aint jewish either?

mouseboy11 wrote:Leyton Orient should have it

Agreed.

'orrible bastard wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

Luxz0rz wrote:All the Jews..er I mean Tottenham fans...don't live near White Hart Lane anyway. They all live in Golders Green and Enfield and Stratford is hardly near those places

you'll find there are far more jewish Arsenal fans than Spurs. i'm pretty sure that United would have more too.

my comments about immigrants living in Tottenham was in no way a racist slur either, just an observation that in the immediate area around WHL there are a hell of alot of foreign nationals! not people descendant of them but actual foreigners who have no affiliation to there local football club whatsoever!

Man United are owned by Jews.

Jews that were alive during world war 2 and had Hitler hunting them down in fact!

i find it funny that most people consider it to be a negative and a source of ridicule to be in cahoots with the jewish!

Spurs are owned by jews too - Daniel Levy anyone?

what about Chelsea? Abramovich seems very much like a jewish name to me!

Arsenal fans really should but dont know any better! what about Arsenals owners? Kroenke and Fiszman have significant holdings in the club! i suppose they are gool ol' fashioned christian names are they?

Fuck me. what about Usmanov? he aint jewish either?

This post is so funny.

Abramovich and Usmanov are both Russian names. (Usmanov is actually from Uzbekistan, but i'd imagine of Russian descent)

Kroenke and Fiszman are German and Polish respectively.

Alot of jews in Europe lived in Germany, Poland, Russia (particularly Ukraine/Belarus). After WWII, all these jews in Germany/Poland/Russia/Austria/other places left Europe and went to America/Israel.

Thus why so many jews have Germanic/Slavic names.

Hebrew names are NOTHING like European names.

Anyway, Abramovich and Usmanov aren't Jewish. Kroenke and Fiszman I don't know, they could be, but they are also common names in European countries.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

Luxz0rz wrote:All the Jews..er I mean Tottenham fans...don't live near White Hart Lane anyway. They all live in Golders Green and Enfield and Stratford is hardly near those places

you'll find there are far more jewish Arsenal fans than Spurs. i'm pretty sure that United would have more too.

my comments about immigrants living in Tottenham was in no way a racist slur either, just an observation that in the immediate area around WHL there are a hell of alot of foreign nationals! not people descendant of them but actual foreigners who have no affiliation to there local football club whatsoever!

Man United are owned by Jews.

Jews that were alive during world war 2 and had Hitler hunting them down in fact!

i find it funny that most people consider it to be a negative and a source of ridicule to be in cahoots with the jewish!

Spurs are owned by jews too - Daniel Levy anyone?

what about Chelsea? Abramovich seems very much like a jewish name to me!

Arsenal fans really should but dont know any better! what about Arsenals owners? Kroenke and Fiszman have significant holdings in the club! i suppose they are gool ol' fashioned christian names are they?

Fuck me. what about Usmanov? he aint jewish either?

This post is so funny.

Abramovich and Usmanov are both Russian names. (Usmanov is actually from Uzbekistan, but i'd imagine of Russian descent)

Kroenke and Fiszman are German and Polish respectively.

Alot of jews in Europe lived in Germany, Poland, Russia (particularly Ukraine/Belarus). After WWII, all these jews in Germany/Poland/Russia/Austria/other places left Europe and went to America/Israel.

Thus why so many jews have Germanic/Slavic names.

Hebrew names are NOTHING like European names.

Anyway, Abramovich and Usmanov aren't Jewish. Kroenke and Fiszman I don't know, they could be, but they are also common names in European countries.

yeah, we have Anglofied Jewish names too! they are still fucking Jewish though!

you can add Sullivan & Gold at West Ham to the list of Jewish owners along with Randy Lerner.

they are jewish names as they are the names of jewish people! just as the last names Jackson, Williams & Russell are very much synonymous with African-Americans although originally being English, Welsh & Scots. in fact if you follow the Russell family name back far enough it becomes Roussell which is French!

how fucking far back would you have to follow the names of Lerner, Abramovich & Fiszman before they stopped being Jewish? dont try and be so fucking clever Polska you pedantic prick.

and actually they are all fucking Jewish.

Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

If you have a foreign surname, you = jewish.

luke. wrote:If you have a foreign surname, you = jewish.

I wonder if he would consider my last name to be Jewish.

Actually though, you can look on Wikipedia for many examples of German/Polish/Russian people with these names, more so than Jewish.

Fiszman for example, although a rare Polish name, has the 'sz' in it, plus I saw examples of people with the surname, with a Polish first name. Infact that Arsenal shareholder is the only Jewish guy I came across with that name after a quick search.

Sorry Jewish expert

Theeeooo wrote:Sorry Jewish expert

I'm hardly an expert.

I just know that 'Jewish' names aren't actually jewish, but European.

I was talking about Bastard

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

luke. wrote:If you have a foreign surname, you = jewish.

I wonder if he would consider my last name to be Jewish.

Actually though, you can look on Wikipedia for many examples of German/Polish/Russian people with these names, more so than Jewish.

Fiszman for example, although a rare Polish name, has the 'sz' in it, plus I saw examples of people with the surname, with a Polish first name. Infact that Arsenal shareholder is the only Jewish guy I came across with that name after a quick search.

Fiszman's in England almost to a man changed their name to Fishman of Fisher. the lads i was at school with said that their Dad changed his own name back to the original spelling!

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

luke. wrote:If you have a foreign surname, you = jewish.

I wonder if he would consider my last name to be Jewish.

Actually though, you can look on Wikipedia for many examples of German/Polish/Russian people with these names, more so than Jewish.

Fiszman for example, although a rare Polish name, has the 'sz' in it, plus I saw examples of people with the surname, with a Polish first name. Infact that Arsenal shareholder is the only Jewish guy I came across with that name after a quick search.

Fiszman's in England almost to a man changed their name to Fishman of Fisher. the lads i was at school with said that their Dad changed his own name back to the original spelling!

The original Polish spelling you mean.

The ONLY language in the world which uses 'sz' is Polish.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

you are nitpicking. certainly in the case of British Jews, they have what are considered to be Jewish names by British people as the people with those names are invarioubly Jewish! That stands to change of course over the next twenty years as the Poles spread like a cancer across our shores!

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

Polisz..... Jewisz...... its all fucking greek to me.

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

Polisz..... Jewisz...... its all fucking greek to me.

Thus you realize how your points about Jewish names are idiotic?

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Umm, you don't have to go back anywhere.

Lerner is a very common German last name today.

Abramovich or Polish version Abramowicz are fairly common names in Russia/Ukraine/Poland.

Fiszman ffs uses the Polish digraph 'sz'.

Just because some Jewish immigrants from Germany/Poland/Russia with those fairly common names moved to Israel doesn't mean those names are suddenly Jewish.

It's like saying that 'Rajesh' or 'Mohamed' are English names.

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

Polisz..... Jewisz...... its all fucking greek to me.

Thus you realize how your points about Jewish names are idiotic?

no, bullshit and Horowisz (or Horowitz) is pretty much THE most jewish name i can think of.

of course they have European names, i'm not an expert in Hebrew but i would imagine its kinda difficult to translate a name directly into a language where that name does not exist! its alot like Japanese names where you just spell it how it sounds! what is the Japanese spelling of Bob for instance.

Mug!

You do realise that Fiszman is apparently born to belgian parents who fled belgium because of the war, not to belgium...

but please do carry on

Tom wrote:You do realise that Fiszman is apparently born to belgian parents who fled belgium because of the war, not to belgium...

but please do carry on

jewish though right?

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

Lerner is also a very common Jewish name outside of Germany! i wonder why that is? you keep mentioning all the Jews who went to Israel, what about all the ones who came to England and have never set foot in Israel? we took in tens if not hundreds of thousands of Jews from around Europe leading up to, during and after WW2. most stayed. alot changed their names but not so much that you couldn't associate the new name to the old. having a obvious Germanic sounding name, no matter how Jewish you were wasn't a great idea at the time!
names like Levy, Lerner, Gold, Freeman, Fisher & Hall are very popular names with British and American Jews. i went to school with 2 Fiszman's. if an Englishman is named Fiszman you can be 99% sure hes a jew and as Danny Fiszman is English im pretty sure he is.

As for Abramovich & Usmanov, they would have got Russian names in much the same way as David Gold ended up with an Anglocised name and it is is fairly common knowledge that the Russian & Uzbek are jews too.

As for the Mohammed comment, well if ever Christian Europeans need to blend in with Muslims to avoid persecution, then perhaps Mo will be a common name on the mean streets of Leighton Buzzard! until then it's nothing like David Gold's parents changing their name from Goldenstein for fear of retribution!

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

Polisz..... Jewisz...... its all fucking greek to me.

Thus you realize how your points about Jewish names are idiotic?

no, bullshit and Horowisz (or Horowitz) is pretty much THE most jewish name i can think of.

of course they have European names, i'm not an expert in Hebrew but i would imagine its kinda difficult to translate a name directly into a language where that name does not exist! its alot like Japanese names where you just spell it how it sounds! what is the Japanese spelling of Bob for instance.

Mug!

That is because alot of Jews lived in the city of Harovice in Czech Republic back in the 1600's when the name first came about. Horowitz is not Jewish at all, it is the Angli/Germani-fied version of a Slavic name.

Alot of Jews share European names, because they originally had European names as they were from Europe. Others changed their (might I add originally Germanic/Slavic) names into English, such as Goldenstein -> Gold.

FFS Yiddish is basically German.

Only true Jewish names are Hebrew names. These are TRUE Hebrew names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hebrew-language_surnames

Goldenstein/Borowitz/Bloomberg/whatever common typical jewish names you can think of are not Hebrew, but European. Lots of Jews have European names due to they themselves being of European origin obviously.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

Jews left for England/America all the same as they had left for Israel.

Well how about Jakub Fiszman? The Polish-German millionaire that got kidnapped and murdered. He was not Jewish. Like I said, some jews have names like that, but it doesn't mean at all they are Jewish names.

Just because Abramovich is Jewish does not mean at all the his name is Jewish.

I guess these are all Jewish names as well right? :

Borowski
Edelman
Anielewicz
Urban
Bauman
Kaminski
Landowski
Horowicz
Polanski
Skrzynecki
Brzechwa
Ginczarek
Korczak
Janowski

I took those names off Wikipedia's list of famous Jews. Do you think these names are all common Jewish names?

Guess what they all have in common? They are all NOT Jewish names. Not at all. They are all Polish names.

Usmanov is not Jewish.

Lerner is a very common German name in Germany. (And I can assure you, they aren't Jews )

I know alot of jews changed their names to more anglicized versions, Jews have been doing so for centuries! But it doesn't mean those names are Jewish, not at all.

Polisz..... Jewisz...... its all fucking greek to me.

Thus you realize how your points about Jewish names are idiotic?

no, bullshit and Horowisz (or Horowitz) is pretty much THE most jewish name i can think of.

of course they have European names, i'm not an expert in Hebrew but i would imagine its kinda difficult to translate a name directly into a language where that name does not exist! its alot like Japanese names where you just spell it how it sounds! what is the Japanese spelling of Bob for instance.

Mug!

That is because alot of Jews lived in the city of Harovice in Czech Republic back in the 1600's when the name first came about. Horowitz is not Jewish at all, it is the Angli/Germani-fied version of a Slavic name.

you're missing the fucking point, if an Englishman is called Horowitz, Fiszman, Lipman or Feldman they may well be of Polish, Russian or Czech descent but they are almost entirely Jewish. the Poles, Russians and Czechs who have the same names and were Christian were not in such a rush to leave their homelands! something to do with the ethnic cleansing not having such a terminal outcome for them!

people with those names in London were up until five or ten years ago almost exclusively Jewish. people like Danny Fiszman, in fact if i do a google search of those names, the vast majority of the results that pop up on google.co.uk involve the Jews and the ones which are inconclusive as to their origins are normally Doctors, Solicitors & Scientists! while i cant prove those individuals are Jewish they do kind of fit in with the stereotypical view of the Jewish in this country! alot of Rabbi's too - im pretty sure they're Jewish!

(polskaGOLA) wrote:
Goldenstein/Borowitz/Bloomberg/whatever common typical jewish names you can think of are not Hebrew, but European. Lots of Jews have European names due to they themselves being of European origin obviously.

people with those name in the UK are Jewish - they are Jewish names!

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:
Goldenstein/Borowitz/Bloomberg/whatever common typical jewish names you can think of are not Hebrew, but European. Lots of Jews have European names due to they themselves being of European origin obviously.

people with those name in the UK are Jewish - they are Jewish names!

People with those names in the UK are Jewish. They however are still not Jewish names. They may be common names for some of the Jewish population, but the name itself are Germanic or Slavic.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

'orrible bastard wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:
Goldenstein/Borowitz/Bloomberg/whatever common typical jewish names you can think of are not Hebrew, but European. Lots of Jews have European names due to they themselves being of European origin obviously.

people with those name in the UK are Jewish - they are Jewish names!

People with those names in the UK are Jewish. They however are still not Jewish names. They may be common names for some of the Jewish population, but the name itself are Germanic or Slavic.

Jewish.

yarnbury11 wrote:

GK01 wrote:West Ham

Spurs moving out of North London is a sicking thought for me , we only want it as well because it will be half the price of building over WHL, but is the money worth it if it robs us of our identity?

Why's it sickening for you? You live like 10000 miles away!

Just because I live miles and miles away doesn't mean I don't love the club as much of people in England etc.

Yea but why does it matter to you what part of London Spurs play, you're gonna support them all the same

Sean CFC wrote:Yea but why does it matter to you what part of London Spurs play, you're gonna support them all the same

Probably not if we move out North London, hopefully something like AFC Tottenham is made, which David Lammy has hinted at.

I feel in love and support Tottenham, not Stratford.

GK01 wrote:

yarnbury11 wrote:

GK01 wrote:West Ham

Spurs moving out of North London is a sicking thought for me , we only want it as well because it will be half the price of building over WHL, but is the money worth it if it robs us of our identity?

Why's it sickening for you? You live like 10000 miles away!

Just because I live miles and miles away doesn't mean I don't love the club as much of people in England etc.

thing is, i support Wolves, i'm not from there and i have no family from there. i don't hate Albion like how all my mates hate Albion. there are alot of things that i have in common with my fellow Wolves fans but an awful lot of differences too! they pretty much all hate Londoners whereas i would consider myself a Londoner (they have accepted me though!)

As someoe who is not a Wulfrunian but is as big a Wolves fan as any of my friends i have made in the 12 years i have now had my season ticket, i fail to see how anyone who isn't bought up around a football club from a very early age can have developed the exact same feeling of "territorialness" towards a city, a stadium or a clubs local rivals as the locals have developed when in constant close proximity to a football club!

i fail to see how foreign based fans have developed a deep ceded hatred for "their" clubs local rivals and have developed the exact same feelings of "territorialness" towards everything to do with "their" team!

i'm not saying you don't love spurs as much as a spurs fan from seven sisters, but i would say you don't feel everything the same way!