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    Can Kenny give Liverpool the 'Pep' Factor?

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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:00 am

    I'm a fan of bringing King Kenny in, but let's say it did happen, but the football didn't change, we still looked shit and the exactly the same as before.

    What would we do then?

    Sometimes, I think Liverpool are cursed.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:30 am

    He's got the job now let's see if he can Coffee
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    Post by SheldonCooper Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:36 am

    Motivation helps but you still need quality. And unfortunately, Liverpool don't have that.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:36 am

    SheldonCooper wrote:Motivation helps but you still need quality. And unfortunately, Liverpool don't have that.
    They do Neutral
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:40 am

    SheldonCooper wrote:Motivation helps but you still need quality. And unfortunately, Liverpool don't have that.

    facepalm
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:41 am

    Ah, don't listen to Henry Kuled, he's just Wumming.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:42 am

    Liverpool fans got what they wanted now they need the results, starting with tomorrow Neutral

    Liverpool will be even more up for it.
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    Post by SheldonCooper Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:45 am

    Dan wrote:Ah, don't listen to Henry Kuled, he's just Wumming.
    Because it's not possible for his job to end in a disaster right ? Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:47 am

    SheldonCooper wrote:
    Dan wrote:Ah, don't listen to Henry Kuled, he's just Wumming.
    Because it's not possible for his job to end in a disaster right ? Rolling Eyes

    You basically just admitted your Henry Gale! doh
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:48 am

    SheldonCooper wrote:
    Dan wrote:Ah, don't listen to Henry Kuled, he's just Wumming.
    Because it's not possible for his job to end in a disaster right ? Rolling Eyes

    Henry, Henry, Henry. I never said that.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:52 am

    Maybe he just doesn't know what wumming is think
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    Post by Dean Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:57 am

    Even if he does poorly, his legacy will not be tarnished. Excuses will be made for him, and rightly so. For this reason it is correct to only give him an initial 6 month contract. It offers a painless get-out clause for both parties if things dont go as well as hoped.


    That said, I imagine his legacy as a Liverpool player and manager is something that Dalglish is prepared to put on the line to try and help the club. He would rather be a legend who tries to help the club in crisis than just be seen as a legend, in my opinion. He is willing to risk losing that legacy. (but he wont, regardless of success).
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:00 am

    What team does Henry support?
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    Post by Kuled Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:01 am

    Arsenal, but he has giggs as his sig..
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    Post by Dean Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:02 am

    Lovin' the sig Day! Cool
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:02 am

    It's a cover up. Neutral
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:08 am

    Kuled wrote:Arsenal, but he has giggs as his sig..

    Explains why he's gone abit quiet then Laughing
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:11 am

    Cheer Up Henry Gale!, Oh what can it mean to a sad duping bastard and a shite football team? shifty
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:22 am

    This thread reminds me of something similar to what happened to Pumas in 2004. I imagine most of you know who Hugo Sanchez is but anyhow, he took charge of Pumas the team he came from and a team he is a legend in and everyone knows Hugo Sanchez isn't exactly the best tactician in the world but yeah, he lead Pumas to their first trophy in 13 years.

    Won the Clausura 2004 and the Apertura 2004, no one in short tournament history has ever managed that, they even beat Realm Madrid in some tournament that year too. Neutral

    So yeah, I guess this Pep factor the OP is talking about is kinda real shit. Neutral
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:20 am

    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:Cheer Up Henry Gale!, Oh what can it mean to a sad duping bastard and a shite football team? shifty

    facepalm
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:21 am

    Tom wrote:
    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:Cheer Up Henry Gale!, Oh what can it mean to a sad duping bastard and a shite football team? shifty

    facepalm

    It was a joke, calm down Laughing
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    Post by GenryHale Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:44 pm

    SheldonCooper wrote:Motivation helps but you still need quality. And unfortunately, Liverpool don't have that.
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    Post by El_indian Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:45 pm

    give him a little time to choose his team/ develop his style etc.

    Roy had half a season and did nothing good, I'm almost certain Kenny can do better with the same squad.
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    Post by Lux Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:51 am

    Liverpool aren't a team on bad form....you've been going down hill since that 2nd place finish.

    Daglish won't save Liverpool.....big money from the Americans might do though.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:05 am

    'Hes been out the game for too long' Well hes not been in a coma so im sure he has some idea of how its changed Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:37 pm

    Dan wrote:I'm gonna start of with something that might open up a whole other debate, but it's my opinion and although you might not agree with it, the point I'm making plays a key role in what I'm talking about overall. Even if you don't agree with it entirely, there should be one key aspect that you agree with me on. Hopefully anyway.

    Basically, I think Pep Guardiola isn't as good as people make out. Yes, he's had tremendous success at Barcelona, and he deserves a lot of credit for that. But, I believe he wouldn't have achieved that same success at another top club anywhere in the world. Why? Simply because of who he is. He is a Barcelona legend, a hero to most of the current crop of players who grew up watching him. They have that respect for him, they will listen, learn and take on board everything he says. Obviously, he is a fantastic manager, Barcelona are tactically unqiue, no other team plays like them and no other team probably will again. But, I don't think he'd game the same from any other team.

    Now, pretend that Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique etc. were all Italian. Pretend they were all Milan boys, born and bred, playing for Inter, but Guardiola was still a Barcelona legend. Guardiola gets appointed as Inter boss, would he get the same from the players. Yes, they are all supremly talented, as they have shown with Spain - but would they have the same success at club level if they had no affiliation to the boss? It's part of the reason why I don't think he'd work as Liverpool manager, and I have my doubts if he would be as good anywhere other than Barca.


    I expect the majority (if not all) to disagree with my opinion there, I'm not taking anything away from Guardiola, but I think he's been as good as he has because simply the aura he presents as Barcelona boss. But that is what brings me to my main point. Roy Hodgson is not working as Liverpool manager. The away form, even the home games this season have been poor - losing 7 games already in the league (we lost 11 in total last season) and if the second half of the season reflects the first, we'll be on course for 46 points. The lowest since the 1964-65 - when there were 2 points for a win.

    So, what I am saying is. If we remove Hodgson, could Kenny Dalglish have the same effect than Guardiola had at Barcelona. Obviously, I'm not expecting Kenny to come in and win a treble/quardruple/however many trophies they won in Pep's first season, but I'm talking about the aura at the club. The personality of the team almost. This season, we've looked flat, like a team lacking ideas and almost certainly one with no Plan B. Could Kenny be the man to change that? Even in politics, this kind of thing is seen (correct me if I'm wrong here). John Smith stabalised and united the Labour Party before Tony Blair took them to greener fields. Could that be the same at Anfield? Could Kenny Dalglish be the 'Pep Factor' or the 'Smith Effect' that Liverpool need?

    Kenny would command the same respect (if not more) that Pep does at Liverpool. He's not only the greatest ever player that has pulled on the Red shirt, but he's also won titles as manager of the club as well. Players will have no choice but to respect what he says. The young lads, the local lads and even the foreign players will admire his achievements in the game, will hang on every word he has to say.

    So, my point is, could Kenny Dalglish act as out Pep Guardiola (albeit only a little smaller)? Could he be the man to unite the team, before someone else comes in to really push the team forward?



    I expect a few 'tl;dr' posts from the unintelligent and quite frankly illiterate on the forum, but we need some proper debates/conversations about football instead of 'HAHAH, YOUR TEAM IZ WELL GAY'. Anyone who posts in such a manner will be revealed as a homosexual.


    My thoughts anyway, but whatevs.
    He definitely inspired torres Laughing
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:09 pm

    He did, has a bit of form going since Kenny took over.
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    Post by Kuled Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:10 pm

    Verge_6 wrote:He definitely inspired torres Laughing
    He already has 3 goals since Kenny Joined so yeah, I think he has inspiered him
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:23 pm

    Dan wrote:He did, has a bit of form going since Kenny took over.
    But he knows liverpool have no hope of doing anything significant in the next few seasons Can Kenny give Liverpool the 'Pep' Factor? - Page 3 207657
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:38 pm

    Kuled wrote:
    Verge_6 wrote:He definitely inspired torres Laughing
    He already has 3 goals since Kenny Joined so yeah, I think he has inspiered him
    It's not about form. It's about having belief in the system and giving 200% for the team. Torres isn't interested anymore and wants out pirat

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