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    Post by ayvee1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:24 am

    Think I might have patellar tendonitis. Leg is sore as fuck right now.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:30 am

    Rei Andros wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Observable doesn't necessarily mean true either (only true in the context we have), people observed that the sun rotated around the earth, but when more technology and data came out that was ruled out. Maybe one day we'll develop a way to look at particles that we can't even comprehend now and it shows millions of tiny invisible bears pulling particles to one another and we believe that instead of gravity, point being nothing is set in stone.

    Nope. Catholic church made that up. When Galileo actually did some science that was quickly rebuffed.

    Subjectivity is in science is mostly based off ignorance or wrong interpretation of observable phenomena. Like how Hyppocrates (sp?) thought veins carried air b/c he didn't see any blood in them.

    Well I'm sure there's other examples of things being observed but still later to be proved wrong.

    Subjectivity in science is based around choosing which hypothesis to explore, it has nothing to do with right or wrong results mf. I am just recycling the thoughts of others, not coming up with this myself. Laughing

    I believe even Einstein noted as much. I have the quote on my kindle, but it's upstairs and I'm lazy. Will get it next time I'm up and type it out.
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    Post by El Jefe Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:39 am

    Far Cry 3 or Football Manager?
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    Post by Kuled Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:47 am

    El Jefe wrote:Far Cry 3 or Football Manager?
    Can't stop playing Far Cry at the moment, I'd get that if I were you.
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    Post by Cam Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:51 am

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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:17 am

    Where is kyro these days

    he hasn't been on MSN for a while Sad

    also add me on MSN chaps or unblock me. I'm bored I want to talk wif you all
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    Post by Clark Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:19 am

    Oscars look loaded this year.

    Joaquin needs to win.
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    Post by Forest Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:20 am

    Hate it when the chat threads full of long boring posts

    pla just make a thread and talk about your shite
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    Post by Glen Miller Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 am

    Forest wrote:Hate it when the chat threads full of long boring posts

    pla just make a thread and talk about your shite
    This is one of the longest posts on this page. Chat Thread - Page 11 207657
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    Post by Trent Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:24 am

    Hows it going LaightonLAD?
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    Post by Forest Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:40 am

    I'm revising you fucking creep


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    Post by Trent Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:41 am

    Cool beans LaightonLAD
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    Post by Mouse Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:41 am



    Oh man Cry
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:43 am

    Forest wrote:Hate it when the chat threads full of long boring posts

    pla just make a thread and talk about your shite
    Why don't you instead leave and have your conversations with crump on facebook/msn/skype?

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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:47 am

    Forest wrote:I'm revising you fucking creep


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:49 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Dagbon wrote:Gravity is an observable phenomenon, larger bodies of mass pull smaller ones towards it(smaller ones have gravity too, but its negligible in contrast to the larger's one usually). If we had quageldorf instead of gravity it would just be a different label for the same thing. But I agree with what you mentioned about scientific theories. But how you mentioned scientists pick which theory is the mainstay is through logic and the data they are able to collect with their technological capabilities.

    I didn't mean quageldorf was the same thing as gravity, I meant that it was something completely different and not related. I didn't use an example because it's difficult for me to think of a theory that absolutely doesn't exist right now. Laughing

    It wasn't so much aimed at which theory is chosen as the mainstay
    either, it was more that they subjectively choose which things to develop and test. Like if Isaac Newton had never thought of gravity and instead quageldorf. We may believe something entirely different. The only argument against this is that certain theories have an innate quality for better and worse, which pulls us into a whole 'nother and quite confusing debate

    Observable doesn't necessarily mean true either (only true in the context we have), people observed that the sun rotated around the earth, but when more technology and data came out that was ruled out. Maybe one day we'll develop a way to look at particles that we can't even comprehend now and it shows millions of tiny invisible bears pulling particles to one another and we believe that instead of gravity, point being nothing is set in stone.
    I'm tired as all hell so the main thing I want to mention is that starting qualgeldorf instead of gravity would only be a setback. Issac thought of gravity because an apple fell on his head. The guy who came with chips (crisps for you tea drinkers) made them that way because of a douchey customer, and some vaccination was found because a guy fucked up and forgot to clean something and it ended up being good. So I see good things being discovered as an inevitibility, and it makes sense since the more time passes the chances of it happening will only increase.
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    Post by Yrael Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:00 am

    Dagbon wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:

    I didn't mean quageldorf was the same thing as gravity, I meant that it was something completely different and not related. I didn't use an example because it's difficult for me to think of a theory that absolutely doesn't exist right now. Laughing

    It wasn't so much aimed at which theory is chosen as the mainstay
    either, it was more that they subjectively choose which things to develop and test. Like if Isaac Newton had never thought of gravity and instead quageldorf. We may believe something entirely different. The only argument against this is that certain theories have an innate quality for better and worse, which pulls us into a whole 'nother and quite confusing debate

    Observable doesn't necessarily mean true either (only true in the context we have), people observed that the sun rotated around the earth, but when more technology and data came out that was ruled out. Maybe one day we'll develop a way to look at particles that we can't even comprehend now and it shows millions of tiny invisible bears pulling particles to one another and we believe that instead of gravity, point being nothing is set in stone.
    I'm tired as all hell so the main thing I want to mention is that starting qualgeldorf instead of gravity would only be a setback. Issac thought of gravity because an apple fell on his head. The guy who came with chips (crisps for you tea drinkers) made them that way because of a douchey customer, and some vaccination was found because a guy fucked up and forgot to clean something and it ended up being good. So I see good things being discovered as an inevitibility, and it makes sense since the more time passes the chances of it happening will only increase.

    Penicillin. Something to do with fungus growing on it.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:02 am

    what happened to the babe section?
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:03 am

    Dagbon wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    Dagbon wrote:Gravity is an observable phenomenon, larger bodies of mass pull smaller ones towards it(smaller ones have gravity too, but its negligible in contrast to the larger's one usually). If we had quageldorf instead of gravity it would just be a different label for the same thing. But I agree with what you mentioned about scientific theories. But how you mentioned scientists pick which theory is the mainstay is through logic and the data they are able to collect with their technological capabilities.

    I didn't mean quageldorf was the same thing as gravity, I meant that it was something completely different and not related. I didn't use an example because it's difficult for me to think of a theory that absolutely doesn't exist right now. Laughing

    It wasn't so much aimed at which theory is chosen as the mainstay
    either, it was more that they subjectively choose which things to develop and test. Like if Isaac Newton had never thought of gravity and instead quageldorf. We may believe something entirely different. The only argument against this is that certain theories have an innate quality for better and worse, which pulls us into a whole 'nother and quite confusing debate

    Observable doesn't necessarily mean true either (only true in the context we have), people observed that the sun rotated around the earth, but when more technology and data came out that was ruled out. Maybe one day we'll develop a way to look at particles that we can't even comprehend now and it shows millions of tiny invisible bears pulling particles to one another and we believe that instead of gravity, point being nothing is set in stone.
    I'm tired as all hell so the main thing I want to mention is that starting qualgeldorf instead of gravity would only be a setback. Issac thought of gravity because an apple fell on his head. The guy who came with chips (crisps for you tea drinkers) made them that way because of a douchey customer, and some vaccination was found because a guy fucked up and forgot to clean something and it ended up being good. So I see good things being discovered as an inevitibility, and it makes sense since the more time passes the chances of it happening will only increase.

    I'm tired, you're tired, but you still sort of missed the point. Maybe I didn't explain it very well. I can't be bothered typing anymore though and you probably can't be bothered reading. What a Face
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    Post by crump Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:08 am

    Since I lifted yesterday my arms have seized up.

    For you to imagine it.

    They're in a perfect position if I want to do everything with my hands on my hips or hold two drinks in my hand.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:09 am

    crump wrote:Since I lifted yesterday my arms have seized up.

    For you to imagine it.

    They're in a perfect position if I want to do everything with my hands on my hips or hold two drinks in my hand.

    rofl
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:12 am

    Well when you're not tired we can continue if you wish. Think I missed the point twice now, I assume you're talking about the fact that something that's a theory could be wrong.

    Here's the definition of a theory. " A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment ". So it's the best Humanity can do with the knowledge we have.
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    Post by El Jefe Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:16 am

    Forest wrote:I'm revising you fucking creep


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    I think I'm in love with her.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:19 am

    Ahhh, home alone until Monday now Very Happy
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    Post by ayvee1 Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:33 am

    Chip wrote:Ahhh, home alone until Monday now Very Happy
    Watch out for Joe Pesci.
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    Post by crump Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:35 am

    Holy fuck I just went to go for a piss and had to squat down because my hand wouldn't reach my penis.

    Fuaaark my arms.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:39 am

    I like to sit down and pee, it is nice
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    Post by Forest Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:48 am

    First lift pains are tough

    I feel you crump

    I'll have them too next week
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:53 am

    I don't have first lift pains, because I'm awesome

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