Carlos Jenkinson wrote: ahlycotc wrote:You clearly have something against Messi, Carlos. You can't stand the fact that he won the award. First you claim that Pirlo deserved it, then later you post a video poorly arguing that Ronaldo deserved it (or maybe even Drogba deserved it). Just come out of your closet it already.
Maybe it's because he was vital in the two times Barcelona knocked Arsenal out of the CL. Or maybe you are personally mad at me for attacking Wenger. Let's just be clean about it.
No I hate Messi because he's a scrounging little crook who gives off the impression that's he's nice. Just like I don't like Pique because he talks shit about Spain but no one outside Spain knows because he gets protected.
But when I post a video that isn't poorly argued, you have a go at it with no substance to your points... That's my actual problem
See that wasn't so bad, was it? Now I know that you just have a personal vendetta against Messi and your disgust with him winning the award doesn't really have much to do with his performances on the field.
And Mourinho's statements were in fact very poor. I took the time to counter each of his points and you only went further in proving me right. Now I didn't reply to your reply to my counter arguments because they weren't worth my time, but here it goes anyways...
1- He was talking about the chemistry he has with his teamates which Ronaldo has had to adapated to, not history... You're not even being stupid you're just selecting what information just suits you.
Team chemistry that he had to adapt to is not a criteria for who was the best performing player in the year 2012. Again, that's history and might be an argument about who has had the better career. Fail from Mourinho and you.
2- Bollocks, where do Higuain and Benzema get all their goals from? If you think Ronaldo would score just as much or less goals as the striker you're really out of it.
Clearly not from Ronaldo. Ronaldo only made 15 assists in all competitions last season. No, I don't think Ronaldo would score less goals than Benzema or Higuain if he were playing center forward. You clearly didn't understand my statement. I said Ronaldo is Madrid's main point of attack. Meaning no matter where he is standing on the pitch, the ball will be most likely played to him. So if he is playing center forward or winger, he will get the most goals for the team. Same goes with Messi. He scored several goals as a winger a few years ago. His last season as a winger was in 2008/09 and he scored more goals than any of his teammates and more than his previous seasons. The reason being Ronaldinho left and the team began using Messi as their focal point in attack. Plus, Messi and Ronaldo don't really play in a certain position. They float around and can score from anywhere.
But see with Ronaldo, he is probably better off playing at the wing than a center forward because of the way Madrid play. They play on the counter on the wings and he cuts in to shoot or pass. This is unlike Barcelona, who pass around and try to get the ball in the middle where someone latches on to the final pass. You are comparing apples to oranges. It would be better if you thought about these things instead of being thick.
If you want to talk about how influential each player is for their respective team, then clearly Messi was more influential in 2012 than Ronaldo. He was involved in a majority of Barca's goals, whether he was putting it in the back of the net or assisting his teammates.
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Here is a further point, doesn't the FIFA Ballon d'Or represent the best player of the YEAR? Why does Ronaldo winning titles influence that then? Techncially, 2012 only accounts for the second half of the 2011/2012 season and the first half of the current 2012/2013 season. Madrid have had a poor first half in the current season.
