Hernandez is having an okay season for Man United, I think he has 9 goals in all competitions(6 in the BPL) pretty sure that's the second highest in all competitions behind Berbatov.
Might be wrong though.
Might be wrong though.
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The MEXICAN players thread.
Scuba Steve-
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Well, I mean, Rooney doesn't have more than him 
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BigPoppaSmurf wrote:Salcido played 24 minutes for Fulham in their 1-1 tie against Birmingham before being subbed off with an injury.
Barrera played the complete 90 minutes in Westham's 3-1 win over Wigan.
Hernandez did not play in Manchester United slight win over Blackburn. Vela did not play in Arsenal's 4-2 win over Aston Villa and Giovanni dos Santos won't play in Tottenham's 2-0 win over Liverpool tomorrow.
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How many does Ronney have like 3-4? I think Park and Nani have more than Ronney too. 
Aren't like most of the "big name"(you know the ones people consider world class) BPL strikers not doing so hot this season? That's kinda weird how all of them are having below average seasons(by their standards).
Also Baby Rooney is in MLS now. You need to start bumping that bitch up.
Aren't like most of the "big name"(you know the ones people consider world class) BPL strikers not doing so hot this season? That's kinda weird how all of them are having below average seasons(by their standards).
Also Baby Rooney is in MLS now. You need to start bumping that bitch up.
Scuba Steve-
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Yeah, it is a weird year. Even Dempsey is up there, tied at 15th with 6 goals with your boy.
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Bringing this back, 'cause some of them are actually playing for their clubs now.
Javier Hernandez played like 10 seconds in Manchester United's 3-2 loss to Tottenham.
Vela was subbed in at the 79th minute and scored the winning goal(via penalty) in Sociedad's 2-0 win over Atletico Bilbao.
Ochoa played the full 90 in Ajaccio's 1-0 win over Brest.
Guardado was subbed in at the 72nd minute in Valencia's 2-0 win over Zaragoza.
Maza played the second half in Stuttgart's 2-0 win over Nürnberg.
Ulises Davila was subbed in at the 83rd minute and scored the winning goal in Sabadell 2-1 win over Guadalajara(Spain)
Javier Hernandez played like 10 seconds in Manchester United's 3-2 loss to Tottenham.
Vela was subbed in at the 79th minute and scored the winning goal(via penalty) in Sociedad's 2-0 win over Atletico Bilbao.
Ochoa played the full 90 in Ajaccio's 1-0 win over Brest.
Guardado was subbed in at the 72nd minute in Valencia's 2-0 win over Zaragoza.
Maza played the second half in Stuttgart's 2-0 win over Nürnberg.
Ulises Davila was subbed in at the 83rd minute and scored the winning goal in Sabadell 2-1 win over Guadalajara(Spain)
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Call up against El Salvador.
Some deserving call ups, and some disappointing exclusions.
1.- Guillermo Ochoa – AC Ajaccio
2.- Alfredo Talavera- Toluca
3.- Severo Meza- Monterrey
4.- Israel Jiménez- Tigres
5.- Francisco Javier Rodríguez- Vfb Stuttgart
6.- Diego Reyes- América
7.- Héctor Moreno- RCD Espanyol de Barcelona
8.- Hiram Mier- Monterrey
9.- Jorge Torres Nilo- Tigres
10.- Adrián Aldrete- América
11.- Elías Hernández- Tigres
12.- Javier Aquino- Cruz Azul
13.- Gerardo Torrado- Cruz Azul
14.- Carlos Peña- Club León
15.- Jorge Enríquez- Guadalajara
16.- Héctor Herrera- Pachuca
17.- Andrés Guardado- Valencia CF
18.- Ángel Reyna- Monterrey
19.- Antonio Naelson- Toluca
20.- Oribe Peralta- Santos
21.- Aldo de Nigris- Monterrey
22.- Javier Hernández- Manchester United
Demoz-
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Glad to see Reyes finally get a call. I don't know about calling up Sinha though
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Is there much reason for Sinha? He seems decent at best and isn't Mexican
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Sinha is just being rewarded for his great form. He won't be part of the national team for long.
Not to mention there are a few players who get called up usually that are injured.(Marco and Gio) and the only other options in that position to call up are Hobbit and Lugo.
Something unrelated(but actually kinda related, and I'll explain why in a bit) we've haven't had a box to box midfielder called up in a while. In fact Mexico just doesn't really produce that type of player usually, but Chepo has called up two this time around.
If either of the two play I can see Chepo actually using two strikers up top and instead of forcing one to play a bit deeper than they are comfortable.
Not to mention there are a few players who get called up usually that are injured.(Marco and Gio) and the only other options in that position to call up are Hobbit and Lugo.
Something unrelated(but actually kinda related, and I'll explain why in a bit) we've haven't had a box to box midfielder called up in a while. In fact Mexico just doesn't really produce that type of player usually, but Chepo has called up two this time around.
If either of the two play I can see Chepo actually using two strikers up top and instead of forcing one to play a bit deeper than they are comfortable.
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Sinha IS Mexican...he was Mexico's best midfielder for a while but he was wasted. He should have been in the process for the last World Cup now he is not good enough 
shame really...maybe they will still use him next year given the heavy schedule for Mexico but I'm sure no one sees him in 2014.
I'm very glad to see Reyes, Mier and all the Gold medalists. I hope they get good playing time.
The only thing I dislike is that Corona wasn't called and his place we see Kalavera. Chepo playing favorites? Then again these matches are not important.
shame really...maybe they will still use him next year given the heavy schedule for Mexico but I'm sure no one sees him in 2014.I'm very glad to see Reyes, Mier and all the Gold medalists. I hope they get good playing time.
The only thing I dislike is that Corona wasn't called and his place we see Kalavera. Chepo playing favorites? Then again these matches are not important.
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Sinha is still probably the best true, "10" in the leauge. Probably even in all available Mexican players. Guys like Gio and Marco are great and all but they don't really play a true "10" role more like a "9 and half."
Marco is forced to play a more traditional "10" a lot for Chivas though because of lack of chance creators in the side. I actually don't like this that much since I prefer him up a bit higher trying to beat the offside, since he's incredibly opportunistic, as was shown in the Toulon tournament where he was top scorer. In the Olympics he played more in that first role(and out wide.
) and he did well but it's one of the reasons he only scored the lone goal in my opinion.
Marco is forced to play a more traditional "10" a lot for Chivas though because of lack of chance creators in the side. I actually don't like this that much since I prefer him up a bit higher trying to beat the offside, since he's incredibly opportunistic, as was shown in the Toulon tournament where he was top scorer. In the Olympics he played more in that first role(and out wide.
) and he did well but it's one of the reasons he only scored the lone goal in my opinion.
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UPDATE.
Guillermo Ochoa will not participate in these matches. A migratory problem in France is preventing him from being available for these matches.
Orozco makes his returns to the national team.
It's going to be interesting to see who starts. If we go by his usual selections than it'll be Talavera. It would be problematic if he started Orozco. I usually defend Talavera as a good golkeeper and I still think he is a good golkeeper but he hasn't been in International level form for quite some time. For me, one of either Orozco, Michel or Palos should be the third keeper.
I wonder why he choose to exclude Chuy Corana actually, an off-field incident or a personal problem is the only reason I can think off. It's hard to believe he'd exclude one of the leaders of the national team for any other reason.
This possible problem would have been solved before it even occurred if he had just called up Corona instead of Talavera.
Guillermo Ochoa will not participate in these matches. A migratory problem in France is preventing him from being available for these matches.
Orozco makes his returns to the national team.
It's going to be interesting to see who starts. If we go by his usual selections than it'll be Talavera. It would be problematic if he started Orozco. I usually defend Talavera as a good golkeeper and I still think he is a good golkeeper but he hasn't been in International level form for quite some time. For me, one of either Orozco, Michel or Palos should be the third keeper.
I wonder why he choose to exclude Chuy Corana actually, an off-field incident or a personal problem is the only reason I can think off. It's hard to believe he'd exclude one of the leaders of the national team for any other reason.
This possible problem would have been solved before it even occurred if he had just called up Corona instead of Talavera.
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Cirilo deserves a call up for what he has been doing, but I would call Palos as the third keeper.
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I don't want him after him throwing his hissy fit and threatening to play for the US. They can have him, really. He's not, "needed"(although he's probably not "needed" there either.)
His atajada against the Benitez Header against America was incredible though. One of the best of the season.
His atajada against the Benitez Header against America was incredible though. One of the best of the season.
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Another player to miss these games. Mier was injured in Monterrey's 2-3 loss to Pumas this weekday so he will replaced by Joel Huiqui.
Surprising decision to say the least. Not a terrible decision considering the players that are available but I would of expected someone younger, like Araujo.
Huiqui has been playing well recently though, and was one of the number of good(if not great) veteran defenders who you could expect to get called up in this sort of situation.
There were only a few decent options to choose from, Huiqui, Galindo, Reynoso, Magallon and possibly Nacho Gonzalez. Considering that they are probably not going to play, you can't go wrong with either of them.
Surprising decision to say the least. Not a terrible decision considering the players that are available but I would of expected someone younger, like Araujo.
Huiqui has been playing well recently though, and was one of the number of good(if not great) veteran defenders who you could expect to get called up in this sort of situation.
There were only a few decent options to choose from, Huiqui, Galindo, Reynoso, Magallon and possibly Nacho Gonzalez. Considering that they are probably not going to play, you can't go wrong with either of them.
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What happened to that Erick Torres kid?
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He's still at Chivas, but he's been suffering a big goal drought. Has played 12 matches(6 as a sub) and hasn't scored a single goal.(in the leauge, he has scored in Concacaf) Most people have lost faith in him. I think these people have forgotten that he's 19 years old.
It's not that he's missed a lot of chances or anything, it's that for the most part Chivas has just not been creating many in general. We've been in terrible form. I still have hope for him.
It's not that he's missed a lot of chances or anything, it's that for the most part Chivas has just not been creating many in general. We've been in terrible form. I still have hope for him.
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I remember when the Hernandez comparison's came in and you said Cubo was nothing like him jaja
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Yeah. He really isn't. Hernandez has great pace and uses it to beat offside traps and high defensive lines. Cubo is more a traditional forward who puts his body on the line (which is ironic since he's not that big and gets fouled often) holds up the ball well and waits for his teammates to get involved before making a run inside the box looking to get at the end of a cross or taking a shot himself from outside the box. I think like half of Marco Fabian's goals from a season ago was because of Cubo's hold up play. He essentially played the Heskey role for Fabian. Unfortunately nobody gives credit to the Heskey.
Who are you by the way? You had a name change so don't recognize you.
Who are you by the way? You had a name change so don't recognize you.
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I don't like Cubo simply because he is a dirty player. He dives, fouls whenever he gets the chance, and provokes people to foul him. He still has potential, as you said he is only 19 it's not like he is a 25-6 year old that still hasn't done anything.
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It's funny though. When Temoc does something like that it's called colmillo, gamenship ect. When someone else does it it's being dirty. (not talking about you specifically, but the media and fans in general) It's hypocrisy at it's best. I don't really have a problem with diving to be honest. In my opinion, 90% of "dives" are actual that would probably not get called if the player didn't go down easily, or a player trying to jump away from a reckless challenge that would of been a foul had he not gone down.
I'll give you an example of what I mean.
Nery could have easily have continued that play, he wasn't dragged to the floor or had his feet swept under him, and Nery goes down easily. But Alvarez stuck his arm out and it was a clear foul. Had Nery not gone down easily a penalty would of probably been incorrectly not called.
Now here's one with Cubo in the same match.
Leobardo le estorba and is holding him. Clear penalty, but Cubo wen't down easily just like Nery. If he hadn't gone down easily it would of probably not be called.
You find those kind of things with pretty much every players, from Guille Franco or Santiago Fernadez to Messi, or Drogba. It's just the way it is.
You do get the rare WTF dive though.
You can't defend those kind of dives. No one touches him, no one is near him and no one is flying at him.
I'll give you an example of what I mean.
Nery could have easily have continued that play, he wasn't dragged to the floor or had his feet swept under him, and Nery goes down easily. But Alvarez stuck his arm out and it was a clear foul. Had Nery not gone down easily a penalty would of probably been incorrectly not called.
Now here's one with Cubo in the same match.
Leobardo le estorba and is holding him. Clear penalty, but Cubo wen't down easily just like Nery. If he hadn't gone down easily it would of probably not be called.
You find those kind of things with pretty much every players, from Guille Franco or Santiago Fernadez to Messi, or Drogba. It's just the way it is.
You do get the rare WTF dive though.
You can't defend those kind of dives. No one touches him, no one is near him and no one is flying at him.
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I don't have anything against someone who flops because, as you said, it is a foul. If they don't go down the majority of refs don't call it. Diving is what I don't agree with under any circumstance.Ché Guayaba wrote:It's funny though. When Temoc does something like that it's called colmillo, gamenship ect. When someone else does it it's being dirty. (not talking about you specifically, but the media and fans in general) It's hypocrisy at it's best. I don't really have a problem with diving to be honest. In my opinion, 90% of "dives" are actual that would probably not get called if the player didn't go down easily, or a player trying to jump away from a reckless challenge that would of been a foul had he not gone down.
I'll give you an example of what I mean.
Nery could have easily have continued that play, he wasn't dragged to the floor or had his feet swept under him, and Nery goes down easily. But Alvarez stuck his arm out and it was a clear foul. Had Nery not gone down easily a penalty would of probably been incorrectly not called.
Now here's one with Cubo in the same match.
Leobardo le estorba and is holding him. Clear penalty, but Cubo wen't down easily just like Nery. If he hadn't gone down easily it would of probably not be called.
You find those kind of things with pretty much every players, from Guille Franco or Santiago Fernadez to Messi, or Drogba. It's just the way it is.
You do get the rare WTF dive though.
You can't defend those kind of dives. No one touches him, no one is near him and no one is flying at him.
I agree. Cuau is a dirty player too. His skill makes people not judge him as harshly, and also people already being used to his antics.
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I forgot to mention this.
Hector Moreno made 21 interceptions in Espanyol's last match.
Hector Moreno made 21 interceptions in Espanyol's last match.
