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Obviously you'd say that. Isn't it for 13-16 year olds?Jord wrote:I'll give that a 4/10Andy wrote:Hunger Games 6/10
A stupidly overhyped movie which bored me to tears.
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Why do I think it was shit then?
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God Bless America 8/10
Quite a good movie but it was supposed to be a bit of a comedy which it wasn't really.
Quite a good movie but it was supposed to be a bit of a comedy which it wasn't really.
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You're 17.Cam wrote:Why do I think it was shit then?
Zzonked-
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Saw Batman, it was aight.
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Zzonked wrote:Saw Batman, it was aight.
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Project X 6/10
It was ok, nothing spectacular though.
It was ok, nothing spectacular though.
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Someone pointing out all the flaws with TDKR, MASSIVE spoilers, obviously. Made me laugh:
- Spoiler:
- THE DARK KNIGHT RISES has finally arrived and once again we have exaggeration and hyperbole overload surrounding how good it actually is. Don’t get me wrong, this is a fitting end to the saga and is, for the most part, very good. But here are some of the gripes – which some may deem as nitpicks – that I had with the film.
Be warned MAJOR SPOILERS are to be found from here on!
Bane’s Voice
No, I’m not complaining that it was unintelligible. On the contrary, I found it too clear. I was fine with the original mix during the prologue, but the second Bane spoke in the finished version I was confused and disorientated. How was his voice suddenly so clear? Other characters are yelling over the sound of the plane but Bane has an omnipresent voice that even manages to beat out Hans Zimmer’s obnoxious score. In that scene he also has a sack over his head, so shouldn’t his voice be distorted just a little bit? Not once throughout the entire film did I feel Bane’s voice was coming from his character, it was just an announcement over the PA system.
The Dialogue
Nolan really loves to hammer us over the head with his themes. Yes, his films are smarter than most blockbusters, but we don’t require every single piece of dialogue from every incidental character to tie together. It destroys the audience’s involvement with interpreting the subtext. So when John Blake is hurrying the orphans onto a bus and tells them it will shelter them from the blast, do we really need his conversation with the Priest about lies and hope? Did anyone not understand what Blake was doing? The other cringe-worthy moment came during the stock market heist. “I keep my money in a mattress.” Oh, just shut up!
Alfred
I wanted to slap him so hard throughout this film. He was like the hysterical woman from AIRPLANE! Every scene he was in resulted in a flood of tears. I’m pretty sure at one point I saw the ‘For Your Consideration’ title pop-up at the bottom of the screen. I get that he loves Wayne, but wasn’t he supportive of him throughout the first two films? Now he has a pompous ‘I told you so’ look constantly slapped across his face. When he wasn’t crying he just happened to have all the exposition a crime fighter needs. Batman may be able to find out about Selina Kyle from his advanced computer, but when it comes to masked mercenaries, Wayne’s butler is an encyclopedia of knowledge.
Eye Of The Bat
For a man so set on subverting the comic book genre, it’s amazing that he fell into tropes present in other films. One such example is the underdog comeback fight found in many boxing films. The first fight between Batman and Bane sees Batman get annihilated. He doesn’t stand a chance, and it’s both great and terrifying to see a hero beaten so horrifically. After this fight he has his back broken and eventually comes back. So why was he so much more powerful than Bane in their second fight? Shouldn’t he have struggled even more? I guess a broken back is just what you need to overcome your greatest foe. PAIN IS THE CLEANSER.
Where The Hell Was That Prison?
Remember when Batman went to Hong Kong? You got a sense of distance thanks to the scene of the plane arriving, Lucius in Hong Kong, and some beautiful establishing shots. Alternatively, this film transports us to… erm, I don’t really know. I think it’s a place just outside Gotham. I say this because after Batman has his back broken, we skip to the arrival at the prison. Bane’s there, but the next second he’s teleported back to Gotham. After Wayne’s struggle to get out of the cave we’re prepared for his long journey home… only we don’t see that. He just walks straight into Gotham, past the armed soldiers, over the cracking ice, and just happens to bump into Catwoman. I guess it was a 5-minute walk, and the fresh air has done Brucey some good.
The Editing
Talk about a mess. I’m pretty sure one of the scenes was even in the wrong place – as Gordon and Miranda Tate brought before Judge Crane. Bane then asks for Miranda to be brought to him. The next scene has Wayne enter the building and talk to Lucius and Miranda, even though she was just called to see Bane. Later, Batman asks where Miranda is and he is told that Bane took her. But Wayne was the last person to see her. Add to that the constant flashbacks for the sake of those that skipped BATMAN BEGINS, and the PG-13 friendly violence that just cuts to dead characters without any explanation – was Foley shot, run over, or did he just die from embarrassment when he realised he was wearing his wife’s underwear? It all adds up to a big headache.
Lazy Writing
How do the Nolan brothers get away with such lazy writing at times? They do stuff others would be hanged for. I’ve already mentioned Alfred’s knowledge of mercenaries and Wayne just appearing in Gotham, but there is more. Early on John Blake confronts Wayne about being Batman. Did he piece together the facts that Batman appeared when Wayne came back from the dead, and disappeared at the same time that Wayne became a hermit? No! He saw it in Wayne’s eyes when he once visited an orphanage. Anything would have been better than that crap. Why not just say “I remember Reece saying he knew the identity of Batman 8 years ago. Found out Wayne Enterprises was one of his clients. Put 2 and 2 together”. Bane is even luckier, as he discovers the truth about Harvey Dent thanks to a note written by Gordon, because we all walk around with our deep dark secrets in our breast pocket. I would have loved to have heard Bane’s speech when releasing the prisoners without that lucky find. “I’m releasing the prisoners now. That is all.”
The Final Reveal
The final reveal that Miranda Tate is really Talia Al Ghul must be one of the most obvious twists in recent memory. If it was supposed to be an emotional moment of betrayal, it failed as her and Bruce were together for just one night. There wasn’t any time to build on their relationship or give it any weight. Next, it makes Bane just another dog on a leash doing a woman’s bidding, which is exactly what he was in BATMAN AND ROBIN (1997). Bane is quickly pushed aside for an underwhelming chase with a woman that is as threatening as that Butler from THE ARISTROCATS (1970).
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It's like the only reason he watched the movie was to gripe about it.
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People are really dumb as fuck, expecting a scene showing Bruce finding a plane back to Gotham after the prison scenes.
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In all honesty I didn't think it was that bad. Wasn't "AWMG BEST MOVIE EVAR!" but I wasn't bored when watching it. I can see the appeal in it.SBSP wrote:Obviously you'd say that. Isn't it for 13-16 year olds?Jord wrote:I'll give that a 4/10
A stupidly overhyped movie which bored me to tears.
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dena wrote:People are really dumb as fuck, expecting a scene showing Bruce finding a plane back to Gotham after the prison scenes.
Exactly.. Soon we'll have people leaving reviews like "The whole film spanned over five months and not once did we see Bane sleep. Just how can a man go that long without sleep?!!"
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Re: Recently Watched Movies/General Movie Discussion
by El_indian Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:14 pm
Zzonked wrote:Saw Batman, it was aight.
rate it bitch
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I dunno, I can't really decide how I feel about it. I feel like I need to see it again to decide.
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Re: Recently Watched Movies/General Movie Discussion
by El_indian Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:58 pm
So you didn't love it?
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What a grade A wanker.Cam wrote:Someone pointing out all the flaws with TDKR, MASSIVE spoilers, obviously. Made me laugh:
- Spoiler:
Be warned MAJOR SPOILERS are to be found from here on!
Bane’s Voice
No, I’m not complaining that it was unintelligible. On the contrary, I found it too clear. I was fine with the original mix during the prologue, but the second Bane spoke in the finished version I was confused and disorientated. How was his voice suddenly so clear? Other characters are yelling over the sound of the plane but Bane has an omnipresent voice that even manages to beat out Hans Zimmer’s obnoxious score. In that scene he also has a sack over his head, so shouldn’t his voice be distorted just a little bit? Not once throughout the entire film did I feel Bane’s voice was coming from his character, it was just an announcement over the PA system.
The Dialogue
Nolan really loves to hammer us over the head with his themes. Yes, his films are smarter than most blockbusters, but we don’t require every single piece of dialogue from every incidental character to tie together. It destroys the audience’s involvement with interpreting the subtext. So when John Blake is hurrying the orphans onto a bus and tells them it will shelter them from the blast, do we really need his conversation with the Priest about lies and hope? Did anyone not understand what Blake was doing? The other cringe-worthy moment came during the stock market heist. “I keep my money in a mattress.” Oh, just shut up!
Alfred
I wanted to slap him so hard throughout this film. He was like the hysterical woman from AIRPLANE! Every scene he was in resulted in a flood of tears. I’m pretty sure at one point I saw the ‘For Your Consideration’ title pop-up at the bottom of the screen. I get that he loves Wayne, but wasn’t he supportive of him throughout the first two films? Now he has a pompous ‘I told you so’ look constantly slapped across his face. When he wasn’t crying he just happened to have all the exposition a crime fighter needs. Batman may be able to find out about Selina Kyle from his advanced computer, but when it comes to masked mercenaries, Wayne’s butler is an encyclopedia of knowledge.
Eye Of The Bat
For a man so set on subverting the comic book genre, it’s amazing that he fell into tropes present in other films. One such example is the underdog comeback fight found in many boxing films. The first fight between Batman and Bane sees Batman get annihilated. He doesn’t stand a chance, and it’s both great and terrifying to see a hero beaten so horrifically. After this fight he has his back broken and eventually comes back. So why was he so much more powerful than Bane in their second fight? Shouldn’t he have struggled even more? I guess a broken back is just what you need to overcome your greatest foe. PAIN IS THE CLEANSER.
Where The Hell Was That Prison?
Remember when Batman went to Hong Kong? You got a sense of distance thanks to the scene of the plane arriving, Lucius in Hong Kong, and some beautiful establishing shots. Alternatively, this film transports us to… erm, I don’t really know. I think it’s a place just outside Gotham. I say this because after Batman has his back broken, we skip to the arrival at the prison. Bane’s there, but the next second he’s teleported back to Gotham. After Wayne’s struggle to get out of the cave we’re prepared for his long journey home… only we don’t see that. He just walks straight into Gotham, past the armed soldiers, over the cracking ice, and just happens to bump into Catwoman. I guess it was a 5-minute walk, and the fresh air has done Brucey some good.
The Editing
Talk about a mess. I’m pretty sure one of the scenes was even in the wrong place – as Gordon and Miranda Tate brought before Judge Crane. Bane then asks for Miranda to be brought to him. The next scene has Wayne enter the building and talk to Lucius and Miranda, even though she was just called to see Bane. Later, Batman asks where Miranda is and he is told that Bane took her. But Wayne was the last person to see her. Add to that the constant flashbacks for the sake of those that skipped BATMAN BEGINS, and the PG-13 friendly violence that just cuts to dead characters without any explanation – was Foley shot, run over, or did he just die from embarrassment when he realised he was wearing his wife’s underwear? It all adds up to a big headache.
Lazy Writing
How do the Nolan brothers get away with such lazy writing at times? They do stuff others would be hanged for. I’ve already mentioned Alfred’s knowledge of mercenaries and Wayne just appearing in Gotham, but there is more. Early on John Blake confronts Wayne about being Batman. Did he piece together the facts that Batman appeared when Wayne came back from the dead, and disappeared at the same time that Wayne became a hermit? No! He saw it in Wayne’s eyes when he once visited an orphanage. Anything would have been better than that crap. Why not just say “I remember Reece saying he knew the identity of Batman 8 years ago. Found out Wayne Enterprises was one of his clients. Put 2 and 2 together”. Bane is even luckier, as he discovers the truth about Harvey Dent thanks to a note written by Gordon, because we all walk around with our deep dark secrets in our breast pocket. I would have loved to have heard Bane’s speech when releasing the prisoners without that lucky find. “I’m releasing the prisoners now. That is all.”
The Final Reveal
The final reveal that Miranda Tate is really Talia Al Ghul must be one of the most obvious twists in recent memory. If it was supposed to be an emotional moment of betrayal, it failed as her and Bruce were together for just one night. There wasn’t any time to build on their relationship or give it any weight. Next, it makes Bane just another dog on a leash doing a woman’s bidding, which is exactly what he was in BATMAN AND ROBIN (1997). Bane is quickly pushed aside for an underwhelming chase with a woman that is as threatening as that Butler from THE ARISTROCATS (1970).
Either has no heart or no soul.
Got Batman Begins yesterday.
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El_indian wrote:So you didn't love it?
I guess not. It was good, not as good as the second one though.
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Re: Recently Watched Movies/General Movie Discussion
by ShakerMatty Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:03 am
I went to watch Batman last night and was gripped for the whole film
10/10
10/10
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Inglorious Basterds 5/10. The last twist just didn't sit right with me, even in this strange film.
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You wild.
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Re: Recently Watched Movies/General Movie Discussion
by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:49 am
I would like to the Batman again.. the first time, I honestly couldn't stop looking at each person go in and out of the entrance/exit hoping I wouldn't die.
I loved the film though.. hell yes 10/10
I loved the film though.. hell yes 10/10
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10/10 is used too lightly these days.
brb my Warrior review
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Drew wrote:I would like to the Batman again.. the first time, I honestly couldn't stop looking at each person go in and out of the entrance/exit hoping I wouldn't die.
I loved the film though.. hell yes 10/10
I did that as well tbh, I was sat next to the door so I thought to myself, 'I'm going to die first if anything happens'
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Were you in the USA? If not, stupid thought.Cam wrote:Drew wrote:I would like to the Batman again.. the first time, I honestly couldn't stop looking at each person go in and out of the entrance/exit hoping I wouldn't die.
I loved the film though.. hell yes 10/10
I did that as well tbh, I was sat next to the door so I thought to myself, 'I'm going to die first if anything happens'
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If you guys really did that you're dumb as hell
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Eternal Witcher wrote:Were you in the USA? If not, stupid thought.Cam wrote:
I did that as well tbh, I was sat next to the door so I thought to myself, 'I'm going to die first if anything happens'
Yeah, I live in America
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Seriously?Cam wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:
Were you in the USA? If not, stupid thought.
Yeah, I live in America
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Yeah.
notsrs
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Doubt it.
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