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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:13 am

    Drew wrote:Is is Kagawa automatic starting 11?

    he should be, behind rooney

    in our first friendly fergie tried an interesting 4-3-1-2 so he could play like

    Kagawa

    Rooney - Welbeck

    but i think thats for rare occasions
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:15 am

    So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty
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    Post by Danny Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:16 am

    He probably played that due to a severe lack of wingers on the tour. Laughing
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:16 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty

    He's quality on Football Manager.














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    But seriously, personally don't really watch Brazilian football apart from the odd game on ESPN.


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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:16 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Drew wrote:Is is Kagawa automatic starting 11?

    he should be, behind rooney

    in our first friendly fergie tried an interesting 4-3-1-2 so he could play like

    Kagawa

    Rooney - Welbeck

    but i think thats for rare occasions
    Would be near impossible to play that in the league considering how much we go to the wings and the wingers we have.
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    Post by Danny Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:17 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty
    Sao Paolo drive a really hard bargain in career mode. shifty
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:18 am

    Not sure if true, but I read in the paper a couple of weeks back that Welbeck is currently only on something like 16k a week, because he's still on the same contract he's had for like 4 years. But yeah, his agent was trying to get him a new deal on closer to 60k a week.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:18 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Not sure if true, but I read in the paper a couple of weeks back that Welbeck is currently only on something like 16k a week, because he's still on the same contract he's had for like 4 years. But yeah, his agent was trying to get him a new deal on closer to 60k a week.
    He's going to sign a new one very soon.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:26 am

    Drew wrote:Is is Kagawa automatic starting 11?

    Only Rooney, Evra and Carrick are automatic first XI. Nobody else is guaranteed a spot, and of the players we're linked with the only way this could change is Baines might knock off Evra if we sign him. Lucas and van Persie are not good enough to change it.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:34 am

    Hopefully Vidic will be back in that category this season.
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    Post by jeb4eva Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:54 am

    Surely De Gea is an automatic starting choice.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:59 am

    jeb4eva wrote:Surely De Gea is an automatic starting choice.

    That remains to be seen. De Gea hasn't started over Lindegaard in the Premier League since the Blackburn game, although the latter was injured from just after the Arsenal game to the end of the season.
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    Post by jeb4eva Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:38 am

    I thought De Gea really came on leaps and bounds after his shaky start. Added to the fact that Lindegaard remained second choice to Andersen at the Euros, I think De Gea has the edge in the No. 1 battle.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:06 am

    He probably has the edge, but he not a certainty. If he doesn't sort his game out when it comes to corners then he needs to be replaced. We would definitely have won the title last season if we'd kept hold of van der Sar.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:11 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:He probably has the edge, but he not a certainty. If he doesn't sort his game out when it comes to corners then he needs to be replaced. We would definitely have won the title last season if we'd kept hold of van der Sar.

    why? none of his mistakes cost us the game, his major mistakes came in matches we won

    i guess the blackburn was the only one that cost us, but that match was a joke anyway Neutral and lets not forget VDS fucking us up against West Brom, having VDS wouldnt have guaranteed no mistakes
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    Post by Laurencio Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:12 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty

    Fantastic on the ball, quick and agile, but has had a tendency to lack the end product, and dwell on the ball a little too long, at least in the past. Looks like he might have improved considerably in that department (end product) this year though. Lots of potential.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:14 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty

    Fantastic on the ball, quick and agile, but has had a tendency to lack the end product, and dwell on the ball a little too long, at least in the past. Looks like he might have improved considerably in that department (end product) this year though. Lots of potential.

    abit like ronaldo when he first came here? OMG HE IS THE NEXT RONALDO

    we gave away the number 7 too soon
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    Post by Laurencio Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:17 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    Fantastic on the ball, quick and agile, but has had a tendency to lack the end product, and dwell on the ball a little too long, at least in the past. Looks like he might have improved considerably in that department (end product) this year though. Lots of potential.

    abit like ronaldo when he first came here? OMG HE IS THE NEXT RONALDO

    we gave away the number 7 too soon

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:48 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:He probably has the edge, but he not a certainty. If he doesn't sort his game out when it comes to corners then he needs to be replaced. We would definitely have won the title last season if we'd kept hold of van der Sar.

    why? none of his mistakes cost us the game, his major mistakes came in matches we won

    i guess the blackburn was the only one that cost us, but that match was a joke anyway Neutral and lets not forget VDS fucking us up against West Brom, having VDS wouldnt have guaranteed no mistakes

    I'm not talking about mistakes, I'm talking about his pre-pubescent physique making him unable to win the ball at corners, examples include the defeat in the FA Cup at Anfield and the defeat at the Etihad Stadium in the Premier League where opponents blocked him off at corners. The latter was extremely costly.

    Of course there was also the holocaust he had against Blackburn Rovers, among others.
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:05 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:So, what does everyone know about Lucas other than youtube videos and the fact hes rated 82 on FIFA? shifty
    Something people might not know, apparently he is pretty good at tracking back and defending in general.
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    Post by Kuled Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:08 am

    I expect a better season from him in those areas, I remember the Norwich game where he was excellent at those things you mentioned, now that he knows some of the language and has (hopefully) fully settled in he'll be better. I don't think the Olympics will help him though since Lindegaard will start the first few games.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:20 am

    Kuled wrote:I expect a better season from him in those areas, I remember the Norwich game where he was excellent at those things you mentioned, now that he knows some of the language and has (hopefully) fully settled in he'll be better. I don't think the Olympics will help him though since Lindegaard will start the first few games.

    How is learning the language and "settling in" going to help him win the ball at corners?
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:21 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Kuled wrote:I expect a better season from him in those areas, I remember the Norwich game where he was excellent at those things you mentioned, now that he knows some of the language and has (hopefully) fully settled in he'll be better. I don't think the Olympics will help him though since Lindegaard will start the first few games.

    How is learning the language and "settling in" going to help him win the ball at corners?
    Because when Rio shouts "GET THAT YOU SPANISH PRICK" he'll understand.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:26 am

    So, as predicted, we don't seem to be going for another central midfielder, instead opting to spend another £50m or so on players that we don't need. When we get dicked over in Europe again next season how many of you are going to fall into line with me over Ferguson?
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:33 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So, as predicted, we don't seem to be going for another central midfielder, instead opting to spend another £50m or so on players that we don't need. When we get dicked over in Europe again next season how many of you are going to fall into line with me over Ferguson?
    Are you saying unless United win the Champions League this season Ferguson should go?
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    Post by Kuled Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:35 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Kuled wrote:I expect a better season from him in those areas, I remember the Norwich game where he was excellent at those things you mentioned, now that he knows some of the language and has (hopefully) fully settled in he'll be better. I don't think the Olympics will help him though since Lindegaard will start the first few games.

    How is learning the language and "settling in" going to help him win the ball at corners?
    Settling in as in settling in to the league, he just said so himself today that he found it difficult at first.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:39 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So, as predicted, we don't seem to be going for another central midfielder, instead opting to spend another £50m or so on players that we don't need. When we get dicked over in Europe again next season how many of you are going to fall into line with me over Ferguson?
    if we avoid huge injuries in midfield we will be fine.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:46 am

    Chris wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So, as predicted, we don't seem to be going for another central midfielder, instead opting to spend another £50m or so on players that we don't need. When we get dicked over in Europe again next season how many of you are going to fall into line with me over Ferguson?
    Are you saying unless United win the Champions League this season Ferguson should go?

    I think Ferguson should go anyway, but 5 seasons without Champions League success is too much for a club like Manchester United. This is only a question of whether people will realise it if the same flaws that have been exposed in 2009, 2010, 2011 (twice) and 2012 are exposed again, or whether they'll continue to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it's all part of a masterplan.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:51 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Are you saying unless United win the Champions League this season Ferguson should go?

    I think Ferguson should go anyway, but 5 seasons without Champions League success is too much for a club like Manchester United. This is only a question of whether people will realise it if the same flaws that have been exposed in 2009, 2010, 2011 (twice) and 2012 are exposed again, or whether they'll continue to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it's all part of a masterplan.

    then madrid must be a shit club

    you really dont understand the CL do you. judging managers/teams based on CL performance is ridiculous, its such a luck based tournament. the best team does not win it 80% of the time. your obsession with it is getting boring and pathetic now
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:57 am

    Kuled wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    How is learning the language and "settling in" going to help him win the ball at corners?
    Settling in as in settling in to the league, he just said so himself today that he found it difficult at first.

    Unless he puts on about 3 stone he'll find it difficult until he moves to another League as well, and from the looks of him in Spanish U23 games he doesn't even lift.

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    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So, as predicted, we don't seem to be going for another central midfielder, instead opting to spend another £50m or so on players that we don't need. When we get dicked over in Europe again next season how many of you are going to fall into line with me over Ferguson?
    if we avoid huge injuries in midfield we will be fine.

    Ah yeah, we're golden then.

    Fletcher - Chronic and incurable bowel condition, only being kept around out of sympathy + because he has another 3 years on his contract
    Scholes - 37 years of age, nearly 38
    Giggs - 38 years of age, nearly 39
    Cleverley - Highly injury prone
    Anderson - Extremely injury prone, overweight

    Do you think avoiding huge injuries in midfield is even remotely likely to occur?

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