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    Post by Sean Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:03 am

    Big Jock Knew!

    Idiot.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:26 am

    shaun the brummie wrote:now is the time for the SFA and the SPL to start a real war against the provo lovers at celtic.they should reopen the files on collections for the PIRA,and look at the TORBET affair.if they were not punished why not,and if as some believe they helped or tried to cover up the events of the TORBET affair.maybe retrospective punishments should be looked at.also have a look at any televised match involving celtic at their stadium,and cross reference what THEY said was the attendance,and compare to a proper computer checked attendance.if they've lied that is a serious crime.start digging....we have the technology.but to begin with just clobber them with points deductions for chanting about the IRA....and rangers fans,vote for independence,f**k celtics chances of joining english football...and have a hun run country they would hate....maybe they would emigrate......lol

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    Post by LeBron Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:31 am

    Rangers to be liquidated.

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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:39 pm

    Hopefully Novo's just got himself arrested.

    Translates as

    "Why don't you go home you fenian bastards. Still have more history than you paedos. Hahaha WATP"

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    Since deleted the tweet, and yes it is him, he actually talks like that on Twitter
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    Post by shaun the brummie Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:51 pm

    henrik...enough of the hating banter..even you must realise that the political baggage and actions by celtics fans,what they sing etc.is the real reason celtic will never be allowed into the english football setup.we know what rangers are about and how they are as anti english as all the other scottish clubs.but celtic must really take the bull by the horns and confront the ira zealots amongst your support.i think a lot of the political garbage and chanting is a sort of peer pressure..if you dont sing about the ira etc..you're not a proper celtic fan..or that is what is infered.and looking at what nacho novo has tweeted,sectarianism is going to be hard to defeat.old firm players past and present should be united against sectarianism....not promoting it......btw it is great winding people up...... :-)))
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:18 am

    Potential troll has potential.
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:21 am

    Mols speaks out about SPL:

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/327516
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    Post by shaun the brummie Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:47 am

    menalawyerguy.....thanks for the compliment.......but i'm more of a gnome.
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    Post by shaun the brummie Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:06 am

    sometimes i get angry and say things i shouldn't.i'm a very celtic englishman,in that sense.the big problem for english football is the foreign ownership of english clubs by people who care nothing for the club or its fans,and only see the club as a cash cow to pay the debts of other clubs in other sports.uefa and fifa are more concerned with advertising rates and viewing figures as opposed to the lowering standards of football in general and the growing disparity in income between clubs,meaning smaller clubs cant keep players they've nutured.because a "super" club can wave euros/pounds under the nose of the player or his agent...and i dont want to go down the road regarding player agents..grrrr.if i was a half decent player and a club offered me £10000 per week,id be happy with that and i wouldn't need an agent to pimp me out for more.wage cap,transfer fee cap,max foreign player rule,safe standing,all should happen.rangers have been caught in a perfect storm of buying too many not very good players for too much money,without the revenues to do it,and not acheiving to the results the out lay should have returned.when rangers tried to buy the euro champs,the returns then were not as huge and worthwhile as todaywhen rangers drop into division 3,the only thing celtic could do to revitalise the one great team SPL,is with the permission of the SPL,handicap themselves by giving the opposing teams,various ammounts of goals start.celtic might not claw back say 3 gaols against falkirk and not win every match.but by christ it'd be interesting.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:23 am

    The Sun are running a bullshit story about us buying Bury FC and replacing them in league 1. lol
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:54 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:The Sun are running a bullshit story about us buying Bury FC and replacing them in league 1. lol
    ShakerMatty would be raging Laughing
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    Post by shaun the brummie Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:58 am

    it'll never be allowed.celtic in english football,would set back the image of english football 30 years.the anti english/pro ira chants would result in riots.the casuals would come from all over england to get at celtic fans.the policing costs would be huge.and as a worldwide entertainment,the fa/epl would never chance it being tarnished.there is a lot of soul searching and work for celtic to do,before it can hope to join english football.and when lawell says"its only a minority"or once found they'll never get back into celtic park"mantra.we know its bullshit and barefaced lies...and that is not enough.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:28 am

    shaun the brummie wrote:it'll never be allowed.celtic in english football,would set back the image of english football 30 years.the anti english/pro ira chants would result in riots.the casuals would come from all over england to get at celtic fans.the policing costs would be huge.and as a worldwide entertainment,the fa/epl would never chance it being tarnished.there is a lot of soul searching and work for celtic to do,before it can hope to join english football.and when lawell says"its only a minority"or once found they'll never get back into celtic park"mantra.we know its bullshit and barefaced lies...and that is not enough.

    rofl
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:28 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    TheRangersFan wrote:The Sun are running a bullshit story about us buying Bury FC and replacing them in league 1. lol
    ShakerMatty would be raging Laughing

    At least we'd have a new Rangers fan to replace Jela. Laughing
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    Post by ShakerMatty Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:31 am

    Neutral
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:38 am

    Is this club still not dead yet? Someone update me with a simple dead or not dead.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:42 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:Is this club still not dead yet? Someone update me with a simple dead or not dead.
    It's on a life-support Machine.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:44 am

    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:Is this club still not dead yet? Someone update me with a simple dead or not dead.

    Dead, but not yet officially.

    Liquidators start in a couple of weeks, the club is nothing though, all it's assets have been moved to the "newco"

    So basically, dead.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:47 am

    The company is about to be liquidated, the club is now operated by a new company.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:51 am

    So the club continues to exist?
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:01 am

    This is where I'm unsure of the details. I've read that The Rangers Football Club PLC company (going into liquidation) has sold Rangers FC (or it's assets) to Sevco who've changed their name to The Rangers Football Club. So it's a NewCo but is it a new club?
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:07 am

    MickStupp wrote:This is where I'm unsure of the details. I've read that The Rangers Football Club PLC company (going into liquidation) has sold Rangers FC (or it's assets) to Sevco who've changed their name to The Rangers Football Club. So it's a NewCo but is it a new club?

    Well, yes. The assets, like Ibrox and Murray Park, are not "the club". The club died,

    that's why the newco Rangers have 0 trophies, 0 history, and have to apply for entry into the SPL

    Depends what way you look at it really, a lot of the Rangers fans I've spoken to think that the 'fans are the club' and like to reassure themselves that way.
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 am

    Henrik's Tongue wrote:
    MickStupp wrote:This is where I'm unsure of the details. I've read that The Rangers Football Club PLC company (going into liquidation) has sold Rangers FC (or it's assets) to Sevco who've changed their name to The Rangers Football Club. So it's a NewCo but is it a new club?

    Well, yes. The assets, like Ibrox and Murray Park, are not "the club". The club died,

    that's why the newco Rangers have 0 trophies, 0 history, and have to apply for entry into the SPL

    Depends what way you look at it really, a lot of the Rangers fans I've spoken to think that the 'fans are the club' and like to reassure themselves that way.
    Seriously? You just have to have a dig. Put it this way: if a club is up and running next season, in whatever form, Rangers will exist.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:19 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    Henrik's Tongue wrote:

    Well, yes. The assets, like Ibrox and Murray Park, are not "the club". The club died,

    that's why the newco Rangers have 0 trophies, 0 history, and have to apply for entry into the SPL

    Depends what way you look at it really, a lot of the Rangers fans I've spoken to think that the 'fans are the club' and like to reassure themselves that way.
    Seriously? You just have to have a dig. Put it this way: if a club is up and running next season, in whatever form, Rangers will exist.

    Yes, but not the same Rangers. A totally different club, as Rangers are dead.
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:23 am

    Henrik's Tongue wrote:
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    Seriously? You just have to have a dig. Put it this way: if a club is up and running next season, in whatever form, Rangers will exist.

    Yes, but not the same Rangers. A totally different club, as Rangers are dead.
    And Celtic fans may be the only ones that notice.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:24 am

    MickStupp wrote:This is where I'm unsure of the details. I've read that The Rangers Football Club PLC company (going into liquidation) has sold Rangers FC (or it's assets) to Sevco who've changed their name to The Rangers Football Club. So it's a NewCo but is it a new club?

    It's quite messy right now but that's the plan. The assets which make 'the club'( MP, Ibrox, Goodwill, trademarks) will be transferred to another company and then continued on from there. As I say however it's very messy right now, Sevco still don't have permission to use the Rangers name I'm sure.

    Legally, it is important to note, that the club and the company are not one in the same.

    Closest example is of Fiorentina who went bankrupt in 2002 and started again in Serie C. They bought back the footballing assets of the old company and retained the clubs history.

    http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=52817/profile/index.html
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:37 am

    So at the end of the day, nobody is going to give a fuck apart from Celtic fans. A holding company will get dissolved while the club itself is moved to a different holding company. The club will be the same, the stadium will be the same, the fans will be the same, the players will be the same, they're still going to claim their 52 titles, regardless of whether Celtic recognise them or not, all it is is a new petty difference for pathetic Old Firm fans to argue over.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:46 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So at the end of the day, nobody is going to give a fuck apart from Celtic fans. A holding company will get dissolved while the club itself is moved to a different holding company. The club will be the same, the stadium will be the same, the fans will be the same, the players will be the same, they're still going to claim their 52 titles, regardless of whether Celtic recognise them or not, all it is is a new petty difference for pathetic Old Firm fans to argue over.

    My friend, if I posessed a nail right now I would hit it on the head, just for you. clap
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:29 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:So at the end of the day, nobody is going to give a fuck apart from Celtic fans. A holding company will get dissolved while the club itself is moved to a different holding company. The club will be the same, the stadium will be the same, the fans will be the same, the players will be the same, they're still going to claim their 52 titles, regardless of whether Celtic recognise them or not, all it is is a new petty difference for pathetic Old Firm fans to argue over.

    Where to start with this?

    The club will be the same: No it isn't. It's a new club and currently applying for SPL membership. They also can't play European football for three years, as they are a new club.

    You need to understand it's the club which is being liquidated. The assets of the club were sold because the club is being liquidated.

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    The stadium will be the same: Perhaps but ownership in dispute. Most likely outcome is that the liquidators will challenge Green in courts, retain ownership and put it up for sale to highest bidder, as with Murray Park ...It's possible it may be rented as a football stadium back to Rangers though

    The fans will be the same: Alas this is true however only their ostrich mentality allows them to think they're supporting the same entity

    The players will be the same: Only by default. Regulations state they can transfer over should they wish to do so under their same terms and conditions. Although as the newco was saving an oldco, certain demands are relaxed such as they obligation on the newco to meet the terms and conditions. The newco can decide it's too much and not transfer the player over. Equally any player who objects can walk away without reprisal

    They're still going to claim their 52 titles: They can claim whatever they want. They can claim they've won the Champions League if they want. Everything starts from zero. They have no history.

    Reardless of whether Celtic recognise them or not, all it is is a new petty difference for pathetic Old Firm fans to argue over: Old Firm was a term used to describe Celtic (1888) Rangers (1872), not Celtic (1888) The Rangers (2012).

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    Post by Mal Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:33 pm

    Yeah but to be honest; no matter what happens Rangers will stay as Rangers to me.. I see AFC Wimbledon as the original Wimbledon too. alee2

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