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Rangers to be liquidated
Grenade-
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ayvee1- .
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I think if the new club start in the 3rd division, it will help Scottish football. Playing against 3rd division teams while taking a large away support (I assume Rangers newco would still be able to attract the fans for away games) then there would be an influx of money for the 3rd division, with the home fans wanting to see Rangers too. Then when they get promoted same will happen in the 2nd/1st division too. This could potentially breathe new life into Scottish football.
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LOL!
Childish Logic-
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Fuck
Rip rangers
Rip rangers
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Marc Crosas @marccrosas
Everyday we are huddling!!!!! Enjoy the jelly and ice cream tonight bhoys and ghirls..
Everyday we are huddling!!!!! Enjoy the jelly and ice cream tonight bhoys and ghirls..
Sean-
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I wonder why Crosas is such a big fan, I thought he wasn't treated the best at Celtic
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HMRC LIQUIDATORS TO KILL OFF GREENS NEWCO PLAN
Posted on Tuesday, 12th June 2012 by Joe McHugh
Binder Dijker Otte, best known as BDO, have warned Charles Green that his newco plan is a non-runner.
Green’s plan for a £5.5m asset sale of Rangers into a new club has attracted criticism and concern with the Ibrox club having assets of £50m plus in terms of property and players.
HMRC announced today that they will not be accepting Green’s CVA proposal and that they will be appointing BDO to liquidate the company.
Green’s plans for a quick asset transfer to present a newco option to the SPL are now in tatters with BDO issuing clear instructions that their task is to maximise the return to the creditors from the club assets.
BDO partners Malcolm Cohen and James Stephen will be appointed joint-liquidators to the old company, although no timescale for when this will happen has been made available.
Cohen said: “Once BDO is formally appointed, the joint liquidators will be seeking to protect any remaining assets, maximise recoveries for the benefit of creditors, and investigate the reasons behind the failure of the company.
“It is right that there is a full and robust investigation into why the company failed, together with concerted efforts to recover monies for creditors and the taxpayer.
“This may include pursuit of possible claims against those responsible for the financial affairs of the company in previous years.”
If a newco can be salvaged from the demise of Rangers it’s unlikely that they will be in a condition to apply to the SPL for membership with the liquidation of the club likely to lead to a number of legal battles.
It’s unlikely that the SFA would transfer any punishments such as a transfer embargo to a newco since as the name suggests it will be a new legal entity.
With Rangers going into liquidation their players will become free agents although their registration reverts to the SFA rather than a member club.
Posted on Tuesday, 12th June 2012 by Joe McHugh
Binder Dijker Otte, best known as BDO, have warned Charles Green that his newco plan is a non-runner.
Green’s plan for a £5.5m asset sale of Rangers into a new club has attracted criticism and concern with the Ibrox club having assets of £50m plus in terms of property and players.
HMRC announced today that they will not be accepting Green’s CVA proposal and that they will be appointing BDO to liquidate the company.
Green’s plans for a quick asset transfer to present a newco option to the SPL are now in tatters with BDO issuing clear instructions that their task is to maximise the return to the creditors from the club assets.
BDO partners Malcolm Cohen and James Stephen will be appointed joint-liquidators to the old company, although no timescale for when this will happen has been made available.
Cohen said: “Once BDO is formally appointed, the joint liquidators will be seeking to protect any remaining assets, maximise recoveries for the benefit of creditors, and investigate the reasons behind the failure of the company.
“It is right that there is a full and robust investigation into why the company failed, together with concerted efforts to recover monies for creditors and the taxpayer.
“This may include pursuit of possible claims against those responsible for the financial affairs of the company in previous years.”
If a newco can be salvaged from the demise of Rangers it’s unlikely that they will be in a condition to apply to the SPL for membership with the liquidation of the club likely to lead to a number of legal battles.
It’s unlikely that the SFA would transfer any punishments such as a transfer embargo to a newco since as the name suggests it will be a new legal entity.
With Rangers going into liquidation their players will become free agents although their registration reverts to the SFA rather than a member club.
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Rangers are dead!
Yesterday the British tax authorities signed the death warrant for a football club that many thought would last forever. They were wrong. Hubris and hatred made Rangers self-destruct.
Rangers are dead.
I will not pretend that writing that sentence did not give me great pleasure.
It did.
I am glad that they are dead.
All of my life this “Scottish institution” was a powerful symbol that I was, by accident of birth, born into a country where I was not wanted and not valued.
If city rivals Celtic are an iconic manifestation of the existence of Glasgow’s Irish community then Rangers came to symbolise xenophobia and hatred of my people.
By the early 20th century the Ibrox club brought in a signing ban on Catholic players.
Indeed Rangers legend Sandy Jardine recently said that when he had joined the club in 1964 there wasn’t a single Catholic member of staff employed there.
Although that signing ban was publically lifted in 1989 when they bought ex-Celtic player Maurice Johnston another “policy” remained in place.
Since the Football Association of Ireland was recognised by FIFA as a separate entity in 1949 there has not been one single Republic of Ireland player to play in the Rangers first team.
During the last twenty years a Republic of Ireland international (full or U21) has played for EVERY other senior professional football club in Britain.
Yet this is not challenged by the media in Scotland.
The death of Scotland’s “establishment club” could not have been scripted any better by a Celtic supporter working for a movie company.
For over a decade this club scammed the British tax payer while proclaiming that they loved the country more than anyone.
During that time Britain fought two wars and troops died because of inadequate equipment.
Yet this club invited soldiers in uniform to watch matches for free to make a PR point to the Irish club across the city.
It would have been better for the troops if they had paid their taxes like everyone else.
Rangers under their owner Sir David Murray brought in financial doping to Scottish football.
The country had a tradition of developing players who would go and play for bigger clubs in England.
Celtic had won the European Cup in 1967 with an entirely home grown team.
Being the first team from Britain to win Europe’s highest club trophy inflicted a deep psychological wound on Rangers.
Murray wanted to replicate the success of the Lisbon Lions, but he knew he would have to spend money that couldn’t be generated within football.
His business model, based on borrowing, brought in the plague.
Other clubs were forced to borrow to keep up.
Young Scottish players had little chance to break through as the league was deluged with foreign players on high salaries that they often didn’t deserve.
There is now an inquiry into whether or not Rangers fielded players in contravention of the football rules.
The Ibrox club operated a “dual contract” system to thwart the taxman.
Although Rangers’ history is now concluded with liquidation-they may also lose some of the honours that they won under Murray.
In May 2011 Sir David Murray sold the club to shady businessman Craig Whyte for a single pound.
The mainstream media called Whyte a “billionaire” with “wealth off the radar”.
They were acting as secretaries for Whyte’s PR people and failed in their duty as journalists.
As first written by this journalist in June 2011, Whyte had used future season ticket money to pay off the bank debt and acquire the club.
He used the money from Rangers fans to buy their club!
Whyte wasn’t even a millionaire and ran the club by withholding taxes from the government.
This was in addition to the huge potential tax bill that had been accrued under Murray.
That case still to be judged on.
The reporting of the death of Rangers has been a victory for new media.
Bloggers have been ahead of the game throughout.
Finally serious journalists from the mainstream got in on the act.
Mark Daly from the BBC and Alex Thomson from Channel 4 News started to investigate the Rangers scandal.
Throughout this saga sports journalist in Glasgow remained obedient and “on message” that everything would be ok at Rangers.
Yesterday as news came through of the club being liquidated well known sports reports were derided on Twitter for their cowardice.
There is now a plan to have a New Company using the assets of the deceased club.
It is not clear what league the new club will play in.
However, the main thing is that Rangers are dead and in my opinion Scottish society will be the better for it.
The Ibrox club has provided a gathering point for the most toxic elements in Scottish society for generations.
Being a Rangers supporter was to be given a permission slip to hate Catholics and Irish people.
In 2008 the supporters came up with a song that mocked those who had died in the famine of 1847 in Ireland.
One million people died in that catastrophe.
One of them was my grandmother’s uncle.
The “famine song” was ruled racist and illegal by the High Court in Scotland in 2009.
People in cities all over Europe shuddered when they knew that supporters of the Ibrox club were about to visit.
Now at least those fans will not have an interest in European competition.
They will not be missed.
It is not just Europe where the new club might be absent from.
It is now a distinct possibility that the new club calling itself Rangers will not be registered in time to play professional football in Scotland in the season starting in August.
An absence of a season will ram home the reality to those still in denial.
For some it is too big to take in.
However, it is a fact.
Rangers are dead.
Yesterday the British tax authorities signed the death warrant for a football club that many thought would last forever. They were wrong. Hubris and hatred made Rangers self-destruct.
Rangers are dead.
I will not pretend that writing that sentence did not give me great pleasure.
It did.
I am glad that they are dead.
All of my life this “Scottish institution” was a powerful symbol that I was, by accident of birth, born into a country where I was not wanted and not valued.
If city rivals Celtic are an iconic manifestation of the existence of Glasgow’s Irish community then Rangers came to symbolise xenophobia and hatred of my people.
By the early 20th century the Ibrox club brought in a signing ban on Catholic players.
Indeed Rangers legend Sandy Jardine recently said that when he had joined the club in 1964 there wasn’t a single Catholic member of staff employed there.
Although that signing ban was publically lifted in 1989 when they bought ex-Celtic player Maurice Johnston another “policy” remained in place.
Since the Football Association of Ireland was recognised by FIFA as a separate entity in 1949 there has not been one single Republic of Ireland player to play in the Rangers first team.
During the last twenty years a Republic of Ireland international (full or U21) has played for EVERY other senior professional football club in Britain.
Yet this is not challenged by the media in Scotland.
The death of Scotland’s “establishment club” could not have been scripted any better by a Celtic supporter working for a movie company.
For over a decade this club scammed the British tax payer while proclaiming that they loved the country more than anyone.
During that time Britain fought two wars and troops died because of inadequate equipment.
Yet this club invited soldiers in uniform to watch matches for free to make a PR point to the Irish club across the city.
It would have been better for the troops if they had paid their taxes like everyone else.
Rangers under their owner Sir David Murray brought in financial doping to Scottish football.
The country had a tradition of developing players who would go and play for bigger clubs in England.
Celtic had won the European Cup in 1967 with an entirely home grown team.
Being the first team from Britain to win Europe’s highest club trophy inflicted a deep psychological wound on Rangers.
Murray wanted to replicate the success of the Lisbon Lions, but he knew he would have to spend money that couldn’t be generated within football.
His business model, based on borrowing, brought in the plague.
Other clubs were forced to borrow to keep up.
Young Scottish players had little chance to break through as the league was deluged with foreign players on high salaries that they often didn’t deserve.
There is now an inquiry into whether or not Rangers fielded players in contravention of the football rules.
The Ibrox club operated a “dual contract” system to thwart the taxman.
Although Rangers’ history is now concluded with liquidation-they may also lose some of the honours that they won under Murray.
In May 2011 Sir David Murray sold the club to shady businessman Craig Whyte for a single pound.
The mainstream media called Whyte a “billionaire” with “wealth off the radar”.
They were acting as secretaries for Whyte’s PR people and failed in their duty as journalists.
As first written by this journalist in June 2011, Whyte had used future season ticket money to pay off the bank debt and acquire the club.
He used the money from Rangers fans to buy their club!
Whyte wasn’t even a millionaire and ran the club by withholding taxes from the government.
This was in addition to the huge potential tax bill that had been accrued under Murray.
That case still to be judged on.
The reporting of the death of Rangers has been a victory for new media.
Bloggers have been ahead of the game throughout.
Finally serious journalists from the mainstream got in on the act.
Mark Daly from the BBC and Alex Thomson from Channel 4 News started to investigate the Rangers scandal.
Throughout this saga sports journalist in Glasgow remained obedient and “on message” that everything would be ok at Rangers.
Yesterday as news came through of the club being liquidated well known sports reports were derided on Twitter for their cowardice.
There is now a plan to have a New Company using the assets of the deceased club.
It is not clear what league the new club will play in.
However, the main thing is that Rangers are dead and in my opinion Scottish society will be the better for it.
The Ibrox club has provided a gathering point for the most toxic elements in Scottish society for generations.
Being a Rangers supporter was to be given a permission slip to hate Catholics and Irish people.
In 2008 the supporters came up with a song that mocked those who had died in the famine of 1847 in Ireland.
One million people died in that catastrophe.
One of them was my grandmother’s uncle.
The “famine song” was ruled racist and illegal by the High Court in Scotland in 2009.
People in cities all over Europe shuddered when they knew that supporters of the Ibrox club were about to visit.
Now at least those fans will not have an interest in European competition.
They will not be missed.
It is not just Europe where the new club might be absent from.
It is now a distinct possibility that the new club calling itself Rangers will not be registered in time to play professional football in Scotland in the season starting in August.
An absence of a season will ram home the reality to those still in denial.
For some it is too big to take in.
However, it is a fact.
Rangers are dead.
ayvee1- .
- Formerly known as : Prince
Posts : 5862
Age : 34
Former Rangers manager Walter Smith confirms he's leading a new bid for Rangers - BBC Sport.
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ayvee1 wrote:Former Rangers manager Walter Smith confirms he's leading a new bid for The Rangers 2012 - BBC Sport.
Fixed
TheRangersFan-
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Location : on the Pursuit of Happiness
Charles Green wants to talk to Walter, Jim McColl and Douglas Park's consortium. They are looking for a return on legal fees and what not and will be looking for a quick profit. 
MickStupp-
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Location : Glasgow
Henrik's Tongue wrote:ayvee1 wrote:Former Rangers manager Walter Smith confirms he's leading a new bid for The Rangers 2012 - BBC Sport.
Fixed
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MickStupp wrote:Henrik's Tongue wrote:
Fixed
Was just to avoid confusion
HMRC-
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Rangers were not liquadated.
forum . rangersmedia . co . uk/index . php?showtopilc=222962&st=0
Remove the spaces.
forum . rangersmedia . co . uk/index . php?showtopilc=222962&st=0
Remove the spaces.
GK01-
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Age : 28
Location : Brisbane, Australia.
Supports : Brisbane Roar
HMRC wrote:Rangers were not liquadated.
forum . rangersmedia . co . uk/index . php?showtopilc=222962&st=0
Remove the spaces.
Just takes me to the forum index
HMRC-
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Go to the 2nd page of the bears den and post the link to a thread called get it right rangers did not liquidate.
GK01-
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Location : Brisbane, Australia.
Supports : Brisbane Roar
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=222962
God this feels all sorts of wrong, being on that forum.
Just seems like a desperate attempt to keep your hopes that you're still a football club alive.
God this feels all sorts of wrong, being on that forum.
Just seems like a desperate attempt to keep your hopes that you're still a football club alive.
MickStupp-
- Posts : 1933
Age : 32
Location : Glasgow
I'm unsure, it does sound plausible but I don't really know much about the technicalities. Didn't Fiorentina get "reincarnated", yet kept all their history and trophies?GK01 wrote:http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=222962
God this feels all sorts of wrong, being on that forum.
Just seems like a desperate attempt to keep your hopes that you're still a football club alive.
SBSP-
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18484238
Club 12. lmao
Club 12. lmao
Forest-
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Age : 30
lmfao 
I imagine there will be some good banter from Celtic fans about Club 12
I imagine there will be some good banter from Celtic fans about Club 12
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Just been found guilty of systematic cheating. Why would anyone feel sympathy for these rotten cheating cunts?
SPL meeting confirms Rangers operated illegal dual contracts and the newco will face disciplinary charges.
SPL news regarding illegal dual contracts confirms that Rangers ran longest football scandal the world has ever seen. Nearly 15yrs of tax evasion.
SPL clubs vote on Weds, July 4 whether to allow newco in league. If they do, newco charged for Rangers' rule breaches
SPL meeting confirms Rangers operated illegal dual contracts and the newco will face disciplinary charges.
SPL news regarding illegal dual contracts confirms that Rangers ran longest football scandal the world has ever seen. Nearly 15yrs of tax evasion.
SPL clubs vote on Weds, July 4 whether to allow newco in league. If they do, newco charged for Rangers' rule breaches
MickStupp-
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Location : Glasgow
Source?Henrik's Tongue wrote:Just been found guilty of systematic cheating. Why would anyone feel sympathy for these rotten cheating cunts?
SPL meeting confirms Rangers operated illegal dual contracts and the newco will face disciplinary charges.
SPL news regarding illegal dual contracts confirms that Rangers ran longest football scandal the world has ever seen. Nearly 15yrs of tax evasion.
SPL clubs vote on Weds, July 4 whether to allow newco in league. If they do, newco charged for Rangers' rule breaches
TheRangersFan-
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Location : on the Pursuit of Happiness
The SPL investigation had nothing to do with tax avoidance/evasion, it was centred on payments which the authorities believed were made off contract and therefore breached SPL rules.
Also EBTs ran for 9 years not almost 15 lol.
Also EBTs ran for 9 years not almost 15 lol.
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TheRangersFan wrote:The SPL investigation had nothing to do with tax avoidance/evasion, it was centred on payments which the authorities believed were made off contract and therefore breached SPL rules.
Also EBTs ran for 9 years not almost 15 lol.
LMAO!! The dual contracts were set up specifically to hide illegal payments (ie tax free payments)
brb nothing to do with tax evasion
As for source, take your head out the sand and turn on the news.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s2&newsid=11440&back=home#.T986FAWTV9c.twitter
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/106736-spl-will-charge-newco-rangers-on-non-contractual-payments/
Years and years of blatant cheating, you must be so proud.
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Club 12 are close to signing free-agents and former England strikers Micheal Owen and Emile Heskey - BBC Sport
ShakerMatty-
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Age : 29
Location : Mancunian way
Supports : Bury and Salford RLFC
https://twitter.com/#!/Club12FC
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No chance the cheating rats will be voted in as a newco now, either Dundee or Dunfermline will be Club 12.
Why would Div3 even want them?
Why would Div3 even want them?
MickStupp-
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Age : 32
Location : Glasgow
Ah, never saw the STV one. I googled any news once I saw your post and that SPL link (as well as the one on BBC) says fuck all other than "prima facie case".Henrik's Tongue wrote:TheRangersFan wrote:The SPL investigation had nothing to do with tax avoidance/evasion, it was centred on payments which the authorities believed were made off contract and therefore breached SPL rules.
Also EBTs ran for 9 years not almost 15 lol.
LMAO!! The dual contracts were set up specifically to hide illegal payments (ie tax free payments)
brb nothing to do with tax evasion
As for source, take your head out the sand and turn on the news.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s2&newsid=11440&back=home#.T986FAWTV9c.twitter
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/106736-spl-will-charge-newco-rangers-on-non-contractual-payments/
Years and years of blatant cheating, you must be so proud.
I think you're being a bit pernickity about my proud comment. I never meant I was proud of the way the club ran, it's obviously shameful but it was just great to see all those fantastic players.
TheRangersFan-
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Age : 32
Location : on the Pursuit of Happiness
Henrik's Tongue wrote:TheRangersFan wrote:The SPL investigation had nothing to do with tax avoidance/evasion, it was centred on payments which the authorities believed were made off contract and therefore breached SPL rules.
Also EBTs ran for 9 years not almost 15 lol.
LMAO!! The dual contracts were set up specifically to hide illegal payments (ie tax free payments)
brb nothing to do with tax evasion
As for source, take your head out the sand and turn on the news.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s2&newsid=11440&back=home#.T986FAWTV9c.twitter
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/106736-spl-will-charge-newco-rangers-on-non-contractual-payments/
Years and years of blatant cheating, you must be so proud.
I don't think you understand mate. The SPL weren't deciding on whether the system broke UK tax law, it was whether the system broke the SPL rules regarding declaring all payments to the governing body.
We are still awaiting a result from the court tribunal on whether the system used was evasion or avoidance.
shaun the brummie-
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now is the time for the SFA and the SPL to start a real war against the provo lovers at celtic.they should reopen the files on collections for the PIRA,and look at the TORBET affair.if they were not punished why not,and if as some believe they helped or tried to cover up the events of the TORBET affair.maybe retrospective punishments should be looked at.also have a look at any televised match involving celtic at their stadium,and cross reference what THEY said was the attendance,and compare to a proper computer checked attendance.if they've lied that is a serious crime.start digging....we have the technology.but to begin with just clobber them with points deductions for chanting about the IRA....and rangers fans,vote for independence,f**k celtics chances of joining english football...and have a hun run country they would hate....maybe they would emigrate......lol
