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    What's happening to Spanish Football?

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    Post by Grenade Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:19 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

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    I don't get it, how come Liverpool are 11th then scratch
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:26 pm

    GK01 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:There is no manipulation about it. The thread is about the decline of Spanish football, even though Spain has been on the rise in general this season while England is on the decline. The graphic I posted proves that.

    Well it kind of was because you didn't say from the outset, and just said 4 Spanish teams in the top 6. What's happening to Spanish Football? - Page 2 279869



    It doesn't have to be about the decline of Spanish football. The op simply asked "what's happening to Spanish football?" If the answer is "it's getting better," then good.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:46 pm

    Grenade wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

    EDIT: Ninja'd

    I don't get it, how come Liverpool are 11th then scratch
    2007 - Final
    2008 - semi final
    2009 - quarter final
    2010 - group stage, semi final europa
    2011 - last 16 europa
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    Post by Lux Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:44 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

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    That list is bullshit. Europa gets you too many points....outlined by how last 8 teams in the Champions league have scored less than some who are in Europa Semis?......

    Also where the hell is APOEL?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:48 pm

    Lux wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

    EDIT: Ninja'd

    That list is bullshit. Europa gets you too many points....outlined by how last 8 teams in the Champions league have scored less than some who are in Europa Semis?......

    Also where the hell is APOEL?
    Apoel Nicosia the team who made it to the last 8 of the champions league and beat Lyon...
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    Post by Lux Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:49 pm

    Theo Filippo wrote:Apoel Nicosia the team who made it to the last 8 of the champions league and beat Lyon...

    Yes are you kidding me

    Where are they on this years co-efficient?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:52 pm

    I read it as 'who' for some reason.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:04 pm

    They're 14th because in spite of their deep run, they actually only won 3 games in the entire competition.
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    Post by Lux Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:10 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:They're 14th because in spite of their deep run, they actually only won 3 games in the entire competition.

    Pretty much sums up how bad the system is.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:14 pm

    Here's an explanation of the calculations: http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/calc.html



    It actually seems quite fair to me.
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    Post by Grenade Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:44 pm

    Theo Filippo wrote:
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    I don't get it, how come Liverpool are 11th then scratch
    2007 - Final
    2008 - semi final
    2009 - quarter final
    2010 - group stage, semi final europa
    2011 - last 16 europa
    Sorry I mean why are Liverpool on the list, if its for this season. Kinda confusing What's happening to Spanish Football? - Page 2 214775
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    Post by menalawyerguy Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:46 pm

    Grenade wrote:
    Theo Filippo wrote:2007 - Final
    2008 - semi final
    2009 - quarter final
    2010 - group stage, semi final europa
    2011 - last 16 europa
    Sorry I mean why are Liverpool on the list, if its for this season. Kinda confusing What's happening to Spanish Football? - Page 2 214775



    That's their aggregate coefficient as of now (i.e. the total from the last 5 seasons).
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:04 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Grenade wrote:
    Sorry I mean why are Liverpool on the list, if its for this season. Kinda confusing What's happening to Spanish Football? - Page 2 214775



    That's their aggregate coefficient as of now (i.e. the total from the last 5 seasons).
    Yeah, it's the reason Scotland's coefficient will plummet, since this was the last year that included 07/08 season. The system seems fine to me.
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:07 pm

    Grenade wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

    EDIT: Ninja'd

    I don't get it, how come Liverpool are 11th then scratch

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    Post by dena Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:15 am

    Spanish football is fine, top clubs, top players, top national team, top managers -- s'all good.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:59 am

    Lux wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:Sam, that's the order if you look over the past 5 seasons. The one I posted is the same exact list, but I sorted it by the coefficient of just this season (2011-12).

    EDIT: Ninja'd

    That list is bullshit. Europa gets you too many points....outlined by how last 8 teams in the Champions league have scored less than some who are in Europa Semis?......

    Also where the hell is APOEL?

    England is ahead in the coefficients and people point to it. Spain jumps them and now it's a shit list. Laughing

    English clubs were shit in general; CL or Europa League.

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