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    Post by Guest Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 am

    Henrik's Tongue wrote:Scummy comment from Bartley

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    Post by Dan Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:17 am

    Anyway, people that are speculating need to remember that we don't have all the evidence. All we know is the court found him guilty, obviously there was enough to prove the other guy wasn't guilty of rape.

    He joins the likes of Lee Hughes and Marlon King, who should be nowhere near a football pitch.
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    Post by Guest Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:17 am

    Just remember the courts have seen all the evidence, which we haven't. We don't know anything. We don't know the full facts of the case.
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    Post by easley91 Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:18 am

    Billy Davies wrote:I bet he didn't even do it. Probably just a young slag after attention and money.

    Girls go out dressed to be raped anyway.
    Only the people within the court will know her name, newspapers are not allowed to reveal any information about victims of sex offences once an accusation is made. I highly doubt she'll make money either. If she was out to make money she would've gone straight to the media with her story. Instead she told the police and therefore her name, address, place of work/education cannot be revealed. She will remain anonymous from the accusation until death. That is unless she gives written consent to a newspaper to reveal her identity.
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    Post by Lux Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:19 am

    Jordo wrote:Just remember the courts have seen all the evidence, which we haven't. We don't know anything. We don't know the full facts of the case.

    I agree. I just don't have complete and unquestionable faith in the court.

    Which is why I think it's hard to assume that he is guilty and scum, or not guilty.
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    Post by easley91 Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:21 am

    For all we know McDonald and the girl had consensual sex then after McDonald texted Evans, Evans could've gone into the room and raped her. Not saying that's what happened 100%, but maybe she only said yes to McDonald?
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:23 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
    Henrik's Tongue wrote:Scummy comment from Bartley

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    Kyle Bartley ‏ @kylebartley22
    Apologies if tweet was misinterpreted. It was regarding a close friend who has been diagnosed with severe depression due to a personal issue

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    Why would he delete it and apologise then? What bollocks.
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    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:



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    Why would he delete it and apologise then? What bollocks.

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    Post by Guest Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:29 am

    easley91 wrote:For all we know McDonald and the girl had consensual sex then after McDonald texted Evans, Evans could've gone into the room and raped her. Not saying that's what happened 100%, but maybe she only said yes to McDonald?

    I don't think he can carry on having sex with someone while she is being raped by someone else. Neutral
    During Evans' evidence, he told the jury he had gone to the hotel,
    let himself in to Mr McDonald's room and watched his friend and the
    woman having sex.

    It was claimed Mr McDonald asked if his friend could "get involved", to which the woman said yes.

    To me "get involved" sounds like joining in, but maybe I'm wrong. But let's say it was one after another, according to that quote McDonald would have been there when she consented to sex with Evans therefore there is an eye witness from a guy they've not guilty which I would assume is worth more than the girls word if she cannot remember anything.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17781842


    I hope some more detail comes out though because it's pretty confusing.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:35 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
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    Why would he delete it and apologise then? What bollocks.

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    Let's look at the evidence:
    1) Why would you say you'd 'lost a friend' just because they had depression?
    2) Calling 'some girls' stupid coincides exactly with Evans' situation.
    3) It came hours after the verdict.
    4) They played together at Sheffield United.
    5) Why delete the tweet?

    Jela you need to mature a bit and stop seeing the world through your own little blue-tinted specs.
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    Post by Lux Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:37 am

    Dan wrote:He joins the likes of Lee Hughes and Marlon King, who should be nowhere near a football pitch.

    I don't particularly agree with this. Being a footballer is like any other job generally. All past offenders serve their sentence and should be allowed to find work again and get on with their lives. They have a criminal record...but it's up to the employer if they want to take them on.

    Being a footballer does not pose a risk to others...especially if you were convicted for rape. For severe violence? Maybe...but then they have been let out of jail because they are deemed ready to return to society...so whether they are walking down a street, or playing football on the pitch shouldn't make too much difference.
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    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

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    Let's look at the evidence:
    1) Why would you say you'd 'lost a friend' just because they had depression?
    2) Calling 'some girls' stupid coincides exactly with Evans' situation.
    3) It came hours after the verdict.
    4) They played together at Sheffield United.
    5) Why delete the tweet?

    Jela you need to mature a bit and stop seeing the world through your own little blue-tinted specs.

    Imagine that ... so bitter because it's a Rangers player. facepalm
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    Post by LFC_Grunners Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:25 am

    James wrote:
    To me "get involved" sounds like joining in, but maybe I'm wrong. But let's say it was one after another, according to that quote McDonald would have been there when she consented to sex with Evans therefore there is an eye witness from a guy they've not guilty which I would assume is worth more than the girls word if she cannot remember anything.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17781842


    I hope some more detail comes out though because it's pretty confusing.

    She's a female so she can't be wrong, the legal system is sexist as fuck towards males. It's a well known fact women get lesser sentences and in cases like this people tend to side with them. We need to take a stand Mob





    I feel for the girl if its true and I hope that Evans himself gets raped in the showers but I've heard more stories of women lying about rape than women actually being raped.


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    Post by TheRangersFan Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:28 am

    Should have his baws cut off.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:30 am

    She said no no no Evans she said no!
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:45 am

    Can someone just delete these fucking Celtic cunts.. its really annoying how the dive on the chance to get anything negative over Jela and Rangers..sick of seeing it tbh.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:46 am

    and yes before anyone says anything.. I know Jela can be as bad Laughing
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    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:Can someone just delete these fucking Celtic cunts.. its really annoying how the dive on the chance to get anything negative over Jela and Rangers..sick of seeing it tbh.

    With the current forum committee? Hah, you must be joking. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:04 am

    The Scottish pricks are really annoying going off topic all of the time.


    Also, saying men get longer sentences than women is not true. Some lass got locked up today for trying to frame someone for rape.

    The biggest problem with rape is the fact it is hard too 100% prove someone did it as usually it is one word against the other. That's why so many guys get off with it, they must have some strong evidence against Evans, I'm just unsure what it can be unless his friend has grassed him up.
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    Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:Can someone just delete these fucking Celtic cunts.. its really annoying how the dive on the chance to get anything negative over Jela and Rangers..sick of seeing it tbh.

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    Post by LFC_Grunners Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:14 am

    James wrote:The Scottish pricks are really annoying going off topic all of the time.


    Also, saying men get longer sentences than women is not true. Some lass got locked up today for trying to frame someone for rape.

    I don't see what's wrong with that? I think I saw it on the news she got 14 months? What if she would have gotten away with it
    and the bloke had been jailed for 5+ years?

    I read an article the other week where an American girl accused her Dad of raping her he was locked, 10 years later she came clean and the father was released from prison, yet the girl had no further action. Women lie about rape a hell of a lot, which is a shame because real rapists are getting away with it.

    James wrote:The biggest problem with rape is the fact it is hard too 100% prove someone did it as usually it is one word against the other. That's why so many guys get off with it, they must have some strong evidence against Evans, I'm just unsure what it can be unless his friend has grassed him up.

    DNA? Didn't they say his mates filmed it? maybe the police got hold of the footage.

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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:20 am

    Rape is eazy to prove.
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    Post by Guest Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:30 am

    James wrote:The Scottish pricks are really annoying going off topic all of the time.


    Also, saying men get longer sentences than women is not true. Some lass got locked up today for trying to frame someone for rape.

    The biggest problem with rape is the fact it is hard too 100% prove someone did it as usually it is one word against the other. That's why so many guys get off with it, they must have some strong evidence against Evans, I'm just unsure what it can be unless his friend has grassed him up.
    Check you out you fucking prick, so its ok for the likes of you to say things about Hillsborough and your not a little prick, but the Scottish are for going off topic. Fuck off Jamesy you must be shagging one of the mods Laughing
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:34 am

    Which one?
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    First of all, I didn't say there was anything wrong with the lass getting locked up, I just used it as a point that women aren't favoured over men.
    Also, I haven't seen the part about it being filmed, I've seen that 2 of their friends watched from outside.

    And lastly, I have my opinions on Hillsborough, I say NOTHING disrespectful towards it. It was a tragedy, a tragedy that could have been avoided if a)the police did their job and b) if the hooligans behaved properly. Just because we have a law, we have police officers etc it doesn't mean we take no responsibility for our actions.
    If you're referring to the Fa Cup Semi final thread where I mentioned that people at games shouldn't be forced to respect a minutes silence, then I stick by that. What happened at Hillsborough is no more important than all of the other tragedies. People dying on the pitch, fans being killed outside of stadiums in violence etc. But guess what, teams not involved at Hillsborough are still expected to do this silence.

    A little story for you, 15th April 2008. Tuesday night Hull City play away at Barnsley, 4 games left and we're chasing the top 2 positions in the Championship. On the way to the game was a 10 year old Billy Fletcher going to his first away game with his dad.
    Their car was hit by a lorry, Billy was killed and the driver of the lorry was fined £300. That night we won, bla bla ended up getting promoted.

    Now first of all, have you even heard of this? Probably not. Do you care? Probably not. Was this lorry drivers punishment fair? Definitely not.
    The club pays its respects every year but do they ram it down the throats of the whole country? No.

    Seriously, fuck off with your Hillsborough shit, no one outside of Liverpool actually cares anymore, we do not like being forced to pay respects to something that does not affect us when the fans of that club where partially to blame and have shown such a lack of respect throughout the years to other football fans.

    Don't like my opinions? Put me on ignore.
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    James wrote:First of all, I didn't say there was anything wrong with the lass getting locked up, I just used it as a point that women aren't favoured over men.
    Also, I haven't seen the part about it being filmed, I've seen that 2 of their friends watched from outside.

    And lastly, I have my opinions on Hillsborough, I say NOTHING disrespectful towards it. It was a tragedy, a tragedy that could have been avoided if a)the police did their job and b) if the hooligans behaved properly. Just because we have a law, we have police officers etc it doesn't mean we take no responsibility for our actions.
    If you're referring to the Fa Cup Semi final thread where I mentioned that people at games shouldn't be forced to respect a minutes silence, then I stick by that. What happened at Hillsborough is no more important than all of the other tragedies. People dying on the pitch, fans being killed outside of stadiums in violence etc. But guess what, teams not involved at Hillsborough are still expected to do this silence.

    A little story for you, 15th April 2008. Tuesday night Hull City play away at Barnsley, 4 games left and we're chasing the top 2 positions in the Championship. On the way to the game was a 10 year old Billy Fletcher going to his first away game with his dad.
    Their car was hit by a lorry, Billy was killed and the driver of the lorry was fined £300. That night we won, bla bla ended up getting promoted.

    Now first of all, have you even heard of this? Probably not. Do you care? Probably not. Was this lorry drivers punishment fair? Definitely not.
    The club pays its respects every year but do they ram it down the throats of the whole country? No.

    Seriously, fuck off with your Hillsborough shit, no one outside of Liverpool actually cares anymore, we do not like being forced to pay respects to something that does not affect us when the fans of that club where partially to blame and have shown such a lack of respect throughout the years to other football fans.

    Don't like my opinions? Put me on ignore.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:16 am

    Alan wrote:
    James wrote:First of all, I didn't say there was anything wrong with the lass getting locked up, I just used it as a point that women aren't favoured over men.
    Also, I haven't seen the part about it being filmed, I've seen that 2 of their friends watched from outside.

    And lastly, I have my opinions on Hillsborough, I say NOTHING disrespectful towards it. It was a tragedy, a tragedy that could have been avoided if a)the police did their job and b) if the hooligans behaved properly. Just because we have a law, we have police officers etc it doesn't mean we take no responsibility for our actions.
    If you're referring to the Fa Cup Semi final thread where I mentioned that people at games shouldn't be forced to respect a minutes silence, then I stick by that. What happened at Hillsborough is no more important than all of the other tragedies. People dying on the pitch, fans being killed outside of stadiums in violence etc. But guess what, teams not involved at Hillsborough are still expected to do this silence.

    A little story for you, 15th April 2008. Tuesday night Hull City play away at Barnsley, 4 games left and we're chasing the top 2 positions in the Championship. On the way to the game was a 10 year old Billy Fletcher going to his first away game with his dad.
    Their car was hit by a lorry, Billy was killed and the driver of the lorry was fined £300. That night we won, bla bla ended up getting promoted.

    Now first of all, have you even heard of this? Probably not. Do you care? Probably not. Was this lorry drivers punishment fair? Definitely not.
    The club pays its respects every year but do they ram it down the throats of the whole country? No.

    Seriously, fuck off with your Hillsborough shit, no one outside of Liverpool actually cares anymore, we do not like being forced to pay respects to something that does not affect us when the fans of that club where partially to blame and have shown such a lack of respect throughout the years to other football fans.

    Don't like my opinions? Put me on ignore.
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    That makes you no better and i agree with a lot of James points there.
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    ShakerMatty wrote:
    Alan wrote:You are full of shit, fuck off and die underneath a lorry if you want, not really bothered just fuck off and die.Ched Evans sentenced to 5 years in jail for Raping a 19 y/o. - Page 2 284837
    That makes you no better and i agree with a lot of James points there.

    Good and if you do agree with James well i think you are just as small minded as him. And if you dont want to listen about Hillsborough put it on ignore and dont speak about it but it wont matter because the fight for justice will go on, and i would back any other set of fans who had to go through the exact same.
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    James makes some exceptional points.

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