The Devil's Poison

Glen Damon wrote:

Dan wrote:

There aren't any.

Are you saying the Bible is gospel and that everything in it should be how we live our lives?

Let's not get involved in a religious debate here.

I'm not the one asking for Bible quotes.

Dan wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:Let's not get involved in a religious debate here.

I'm not the one asking for Bible quotes.

I'm not the one making ridiculous claims that religion causes people to sexually abuse children.

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

They aren't harming anyone with Celibacy, Sexual abuse does not result because of religion.

I take the stance that celibacy does play quite a part in the sexual abuse of minors by priests. As I said, it's unnatural and the majority of humans will eventually need a release one way or another.

the fuck am i doing

I don't agree with this thread anyway.

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

That could be argued otherwise. Celibacy is unnatural.

Sure it's unnatural, but it's not the cause of sexual abuse. Many married or sexual active people are sexual abusers.

Alcohol however, has a direct link with blurred vision and lost of motor skills.

It can be.


And yes, alcohol does have a link with blurred vision and loss of motor skills. But just because one dickhead decides to drive drunk, we all have to suffer and miss out on relaxing with friends. Alcohol, in moderation, has been proven to have positive effects on the human body.

Glen Damon wrote:

Dan wrote:

I'm not the one asking for Bible quotes.

I'm not the one making ridiculous claims that religion causes people to sexually abuse children.

Nicely taken out of context.

Move along please.

Splashy wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:Thanks for clearing that up.

No problem nut job.

I will call on you whenever I need such services again.

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Sure it's unnatural, but it's not the cause of sexual abuse. Many married or sexual active people are sexual abusers.

Alcohol however, has a direct link with blurred vision and lost of motor skills.

It can be.


And yes, alcohol does have a link with blurred vision and loss of motor skills. But just because one dickhead decides to drive drunk, we all have to suffer and miss out on relaxing with friends. Alcohol, in moderation, has been proven to have positive effects on the human body.

It's more than "one d*ckhead." Perfectly responsible adults have had one silly night in which they got drunk and killed people as a result.

Glen Damon wrote:

Splashy wrote:
No problem nut job.

I will call on you whenever I need such services again.

Ok.

Glen Damon wrote:

Dan wrote:

It can be.


And yes, alcohol does have a link with blurred vision and loss of motor skills. But just because one dickhead decides to drive drunk, we all have to suffer and miss out on relaxing with friends. Alcohol, in moderation, has been proven to have positive effects on the human body.

It's more than "one d*ckhead." Perfectly responsible adults have had one silly night in which they got drunk and killed people as a result.

So what should we do then? Ban alcohol?

Dan wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:It's more than "one d*ckhead." Perfectly responsible adults have had one silly night in which they got drunk and killed people as a result.

So what should we do then? Ban alcohol?

Tough call. Closing bars at an earlier time is one less progressive move that could be made. Improving the technology whereby breathalysers are used before one can drive a car. There are a few things that could be done.

Alcohol and drink driving are two massivley seperate issues, the discrepancies between those who drink alcohol and those who have been involved in a drink driving accident are most likely too large to even discuss a relationship

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Sure it's unnatural, but it's not the cause of sexual abuse. Many married or sexual active people are sexual abusers.

Alcohol however, has a direct link with blurred vision and lost of motor skills.

It can be.


And yes, alcohol does have a link with blurred vision and loss of motor skills. But just because one dickhead decides to drive drunk, we all have to suffer and miss out on relaxing with friends. Alcohol, in moderation, has been proven to have positive effects on the human body.

On average, every 50 minutes, someone dies due to drunk driving. Drunk driving isn't the only result of alcohol consumption. There are plenty of other crimes, deaths, and injuries that can result from it. It's also a gateway drug.

I'm sure you can have a good time with your friends drinking juices, soda, etc. If you need to get drunk to enjoy the company of friends, that's sad.

I support the banning of alcohol or at the very least the restriction of access to it and the high taxation of alcoholic beverages. The sad thing is society and media promote drinking more than try to reduce it.

I agree Ahly, banning the advertising of alcohol is the least that can be done.

Sean wrote:Alcohol and drink driving are two massivley seperate issues, the discrepancies between those who drink alcohol and those who have been involved in a drink driving accident are most likely too large to even discuss a relationship

They are two very much intertwined issues.

I'm a big fan of the devil's poison. We get along so well

Might as well say ban cars then.

I like it , though I think people who drink it every day is pretty worrying shit English lol

Also a good point is getting drunk is not natural. Should we not do it?

Sean wrote:Alcohol and drink driving are two massivley seperate issues, the discrepancies between those who drink alcohol and those who have been involved in a drink driving accident are most likely too large to even discuss a relationship

You can't do one without the other. It is heavily linked.


you do this then there is a chance of this.

You buy a gun then there is a chance of accidentally killing someone.

Both linked.

Sean wrote:Might as well say ban cars then.

The majority of non-alcohol related car accidents are caused by one driver driving carelessly. We should ban people.

Sean wrote:Might as well say ban cars then.

The positives of allowing cars greatly outweigh the negatives. There are no positives to alcohol consumption.

NZG wrote:Also a good point is getting drunk is not natural. Should we not do it?

Sean wrote:Alcohol and drink driving are two massivley seperate issues, the discrepancies between those who drink alcohol and those who have been involved in a drink driving accident are most likely too large to even discuss a relationship

You can't do one without the other. It is heavily linked.


you do this then there is a chance of this.

You buy a gun then there is a chance of accidentally killing someone.

Both linked.

As I say, why stop at alcohol then, ban cars

At a certain point, society has to live by a basis of personal responsibility, you cant rely on the government to remove all possible dangers.

NZG wrote:Also a good point is getting drunk is not natural. Should we not do it?

Sean wrote:Alcohol and drink driving are two massivley seperate issues, the discrepancies between those who drink alcohol and those who have been involved in a drink driving accident are most likely too large to even discuss a relationship

You can't do one without the other. It is heavily linked.


you do this then there is a chance of this.

You buy a gun then there is a chance of accidentally killing someone.

Both linked.

Driving isn't natural, using medicine isn't natural, flying isn't natural. Should we stop doing these?

Dan wrote:

Sean wrote:Might as well say ban cars then.

The majority of non-alcohol related car accidents are caused by one driver driving carelessly. We should ban people.

Uhhh...witty, but I disagree.

Saying something is unnatural is a terrible argument, to be honest.

BladeGunner wrote:

Sean wrote:Might as well say ban cars then.

The positives of allowing cars greatly outweigh the negatives. There are no positives to alcohol consumption.

Obviously there is or people wouldnt do it.

Sean wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

The positives of allowing cars greatly outweigh the negatives. There are no positives to alcohol consumption.

Obviously there is or people wouldnt do it.

Mind telling me what they are?

BladeGunner wrote:

Sean wrote:

Obviously there is or people wouldnt do it.

Mind telling me what they are?

Fun, an escape, relaxation, all perfectly acceptable benefits.

BladeGunner wrote:

Sean wrote:Might as well say ban cars then.

The positives of allowing cars greatly outweigh the negatives. There are no positives to alcohol consumption.

There are many positives to drinking alcohol.

It can relax you, help you socialise with your peers. Alcohol itself if actually rich in nutrients that are vital to the human body, and a couple of pints actually rehydrates the body. Believe it or not, moderate alcohol consumption can even reduce the risk of heart disease, red wine especially, can help lower cholesterol.

However, excessive consumption is where problems begin. Have you not noticed that the negatives of alcohol consumption are always based around 'heavy drinking'?

The red wine argument is in itself highly controversial, given that numerous studies have shown negatives, while numerous studies have shown positives.

Sean wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

Mind telling me what they are?

Fun, an escape, relaxation, all perfectly acceptable benefits.

I still don't understand what's so incredibly fun about being completely oblivious to your surroundings. Relaxation? Do you need alcohol to manage that? And as for an escape, well there are plenty more healthy and risk-free (relatively) methods of doing that as well.

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:Also a good point is getting drunk is not natural. Should we not do it?



You can't do one without the other. It is heavily linked.


you do this then there is a chance of this.

You buy a gun then there is a chance of accidentally killing someone.

Both linked.

Driving isn't natural, using medicine isn't natural, flying isn't natural. Should we stop doing these?

Just using an argument you use in a lot of discussions.