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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:18 am

    Totti wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:We've not got a £100million bill though. scratch

    It's only a possibility. Smile

    We wouldn't start at the bottom, automatic SPL re-entry.

    Anyway, Phoenix club sound good.

    I know you don't actually think that, but I'll bite anyway.

    You need 11 out of 12 SPL clubs to let you back in to the league. It's a very small chance that you wouldn't get in, but it's still a possibility. There's no guarantee.

    Secondly, there is not a single straight thinking Rangers fan alive that wants to see the club liquidated and another club formed.

    It's not another club, it's exactly the same, with the same history, the same fans etc etc. Laughing
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    Post by Totti Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:19 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
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    I know you don't actually think that, but I'll bite anyway.

    You need 11 out of 12 SPL clubs to let you back in to the league. It's a very small chance that you wouldn't get in, but it's still a possibility. There's no guarantee.

    Secondly, there is not a single straight thinking Rangers fan alive that wants to see the club liquidated and another club formed.

    It's not another club, it's exactly the same, with the same history, the same fans etc etc. Laughing

    there there
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 am

    See, you and your fans are so hurt by this. Laughing

    Yet again, we're off scot free. #andijustcantseemtogettnoughforderderderderder
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 am

    rofl
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    Post by Laurencio Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:24 am

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    Laurencio wrote:There is no way Rangers can survive a 100M tax bill. Your annual turnover is 35M, with expenditures closingin on 45M, a 100M on top of that woukd be impossible.

    Annual turnover at the last set of audited accounts was around 57m. Smile

    Still not enough tosurvive a 100M tax bill on top of the other debt.

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Anyway, A Phoenix club is a perfect idea, keep the history and wipe out the tax bill = no debt! #celikfansgreetinfuryeerzminlololol

    Except all your players contracts will have to be cancelled, contract fees will have to be paid, Ibrox will go on sale, training ground will go on sale and you will have to restart th club with no money what so ever.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:25 am

    I do have a general knowledge of how business works, but in all honesty this whole administration thing is taking me a while for me to get my head around it. But my gut feeling is that we, Glasgow Rangers Football Club, will survive. But there will always be a Glasgow Rangers - either in its current form, or as a new club formed by the fans.
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    Post by Totti Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:25 am

    No, Jela's right.

    A lot of Celtic fans are hurting. That's what happens when you laugh for so long.

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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:27 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    TheRangersFan wrote:

    Annual turnover at the last set of audited accounts was around 57m. Smile

    Still not enough tosurvive a 100M tax bill on top of the other debt.

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Anyway, A Phoenix club is a perfect idea, keep the history and wipe out the tax bill = no debt! #celikfansgreetinfuryeerzminlololol

    Except all your players contracts will have to be cancelled, contract fees will have to be paid, Ibrox will go on sale, training ground will go on sale and you will have to restart th club with no money what so ever.

    Ibrox is a listed building.

    Rangers don't own Murray Park, David Murray does.

    We'll keep all the money that we currently have as it'll go into another Craig Whyte account. Smile
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:28 am

    Mr. Hassard wrote:I do have a general knowledge of how business works, but in all honesty this whole administration thing is taking me a while for me to get my head around it. But my gut feeling is that we, Glasgow Rangers Football Club, will survive. But there will always be a Glasgow Rangers - either in its current form, or as a new club formed by the fans.

    We're not called Glasgow Rangers mate, the word 'Glasgow' is nowhere in the official name therefore, we could call a Phoenix club that. Smile
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    Post by Laurencio Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:28 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
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    Still not enough tosurvive a 100M tax bill on top of the other debt.



    Except all your players contracts will have to be cancelled, contract fees will have to be paid, Ibrox will go on sale, training ground will go on sale and you will have to restart th club with no money what so ever.

    Ibrox is a listed building.

    Rangers don't own Murray Park, David Murray does.

    We'll keep all the money that we currently have as it'll go into another Craig Whyte account. Smile

    You won't keep a pence Jela. You don't honestly think it's that easy to cheat the tax man do you?
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:29 am

    Just disband Rangers, and Merge Hearts and Rangers together to form HMRC.
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    Post by Jordi Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:29 am

    Jela, if AFC Rangers or whatever it's called is formed, you won't keep all your history, nor be able to afford to keep Ibrox.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:31 am

    Jordi wrote:Jela, if AFC Rangers or whatever it's called is formed, you won't keep all your history, nor be able to afford to keep Ibrox.

    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:31 am

    No income tax, No vat, No money back, No RFC. Green and white on the Ibrox door, it's an asda megastooooooooore!
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    Post by Jordi Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:32 am

    Dan wrote:
    Jordi wrote:Jela, if AFC Rangers or whatever it's called is formed, you won't keep all your history, nor be able to afford to keep Ibrox.

    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.
    They can in a sense, but the trophies won't be theirs, will they?

    Plus every site would say formed in 2013 or whatever.
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    Post by Totti Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:33 am

    Dan wrote:
    Jordi wrote:Jela, if AFC Rangers or whatever it's called is formed, you won't keep all your history, nor be able to afford to keep Ibrox.

    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.

    I thought MK Dons were the new Wimbledon, and then a new Wimbledon came up?

    Not really sure. Surprised
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:33 am

    Jordi wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.
    They can in a sense, but the trophies won't be theirs, will they?

    Plus every site would say formed in 2013 or whatever.

    Depends on what is agreed. AFC Wimbledon still are founded in 2002/2003 but have Wimbledon's history behind them.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:33 am

    Jordi wrote:
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    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.
    They can in a sense, but the trophies won't be theirs, will they?

    Plus every site would say formed in 2013 or whatever.

    Trophies would still be ours.

    And we'd be re-formed.
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    Post by Jordi Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:34 am

    Dan wrote:
    Jordi wrote:They can in a sense, but the trophies won't be theirs, will they?

    Plus every site would say formed in 2013 or whatever.

    Depends on what is agreed. AFC Wimbledon still are founded in 2002/2003 but have Wimbledon's history behind them.
    I thought Franchise FC would have Wimbledon's history behind them. shifty
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 am

    Totti wrote:
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    They can. AFC Wimbledon have the history of Wimbledon, AFC Chester have the history of Chester City etc.

    I thought MK Dons were the new Wimbledon, and then a new Wimbledon came up?

    Not really sure. Surprised

    Wimbledon became MK Dons, forcing the Wimbledon fans to form AFC Wimbledon. I believe that the history and trophies won by Wimbledon have been returned to AFC Wimbledon and that is part of their 'former club history'.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 am

    Can't see Rangers getting Liquidated IMO, there to bigger club to just 'vanish'.
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    Post by Mr. Hassard Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
    Mr. Hassard wrote:I do have a general knowledge of how business works, but in all honesty this whole administration thing is taking me a while for me to get my head around it. But my gut feeling is that we, Glasgow Rangers Football Club, will survive. But there will always be a Glasgow Rangers - either in its current form, or as a new club formed by the fans.

    We're not called Glasgow Rangers mate, the word 'Glasgow' is nowhere in the official name therefore, we could call a Phoenix club that. Smile

    I never knew that mate! Surprised You learn something new every day. Wink
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 am

    Jordi wrote:
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    Depends on what is agreed. AFC Wimbledon still are founded in 2002/2003 but have Wimbledon's history behind them.
    I thought Franchise FC would have Wimbledon's history behind them. shifty

    Wimbledon have it I believe. And rightly so.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 am

    Whatever happens, There will always be a Rangers who will always be the most successful football club in world history and we will always have the best fans in the world. simples. Smile
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:36 am

    Adz wrote:Can't see Rangers getting Liquidated IMO, there to bigger club to just 'vanish'.

    Even if liquidated, we still wouldn't vanish. Phoenix club would be formed.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:38 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
    Adz wrote:Can't see Rangers getting Liquidated IMO, there to bigger club to just 'vanish'.

    Even if liquidated, we still wouldn't vanish. Phoenix club would be formed.
    Rangers will still exist I'd say, there a too bigger club, and someone will come in and pay the debt.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:39 am

    Adz wrote:
    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

    Even if liquidated, we still wouldn't vanish. Phoenix club would be formed.
    Rangers will still exist I'd say, there a too bigger club, and someone will come in and pay the debt.

    And get what in return? A club pissing money? Nah, looks like these are done.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:43 am

    Dan wrote:
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    Rangers will still exist I'd say, there a too bigger club, and someone will come in and pay the debt.

    And get what in return? A club pissing money? Nah, looks like these are done.
    True.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:45 am

    Dan wrote:
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    Rangers will still exist I'd say, there a too bigger club, and someone will come in and pay the debt.

    And get what in return? A club pissing money? Nah, looks like these are done.

    We don't piss money, we make £10million less than we need a year, WITHOUT European football. Therefore, we could make it that way or through new sponsorship i.e. stadium naming rights etc.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:47 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    And get what in return? A club pissing money? Nah, looks like these are done.

    We don't piss money, we make £10million less than we need a year, WITHOUT European football. Therefore, we could make it that way or through new sponsorship i.e. stadium naming rights etc.
    But then you will moan that it has lose its 'famous' name of Ibrox.

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