Paulinho wrote:Scott wrote:He didn't kick Parker on purpose, he thought the ball was going to drop down there, but Parker headed it away.
Suarez apologised immediately afterwards, and stayed with Parker whilst he was on the floor. Those aren't the actions of a man who kicks someone on purpose.
Are you joking? Is this a serious attempt at justification?
Man murders another man
Pleads innocence, is found guilty, apologises, therefore, did not murder?
Scott wrote:Paulinho wrote:Scott wrote:He didn't kick Parker on purpose, he thought the ball was going to drop down there, but Parker headed it away.
Suarez apologised immediately afterwards, and stayed with Parker whilst he was on the floor. Those aren't the actions of a man who kicks someone on purpose.
Are you joking? Is this a serious attempt at justification?
Man murders another man
Pleads innocence, is found guilty, apologises, therefore, did not murder?
Oh wow, great comparison.
BladeGunner wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
A decent lawyer would argue as follows
If that's true, under the doctrine of self defence, Rooney would have to be found not guilty by a court of law. Further, if you can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that it's not true, then the court must treat it as true.
Prove beyond reasonable doubt that our hypothetical lawyer's account is untrue.
You're being a hypocrite.
Correct. Self defence does not allow you to seek revenge, it allows you to defend yourself. For example if someone is about to commit battery against you (which is what McCarthy's block would have constituted) you can prevent them from doing so. If Rooney had kicked James McCarthy after he had fallen to the floor, and continued to kick him when he was clearly incapacitated, I would have condemned him for it as well.Couple of weeks back you condemned that AZ Alkamaar goalkeeper for over-reacting when a fun jumped at him by kicking him repeatedly. You're now trying to say that what Rooney did was self-defence despite McCarthy only slightly leaning towards him? There was no indication that McCarthy was trying to hurt Rooney whatsoever.
Scott wrote:Also, it's worth mentioning ..... I saw people on here yesterday calling Liverpool fans stupid/pathetic etc for booing Bale for diving when our own players dive ...
He wasn't booed for diving. He was booed for starting on Agger when accused of diving.
ahlycotc wrote:Paulinho wrote:
It was patriotic, and he sacrificed his spot in the team and next round, just for his team to have a chance of making it.
Probably had a selfish reason though, cunt.
Either way, he wasn't going to play in the semifinals. Either his team would have been knocked out or he could have cheated and possibly played in the 3rd place match or final. Not to mention the praise he received from his teammates and country. If anything, it shows how selfish he is. His cuntish behavior is probably what caught the attention of Liverpool FC and they said, we need that kind of player.Just kidding about that last oneOnce a scum, always scum.
ResurrectionRooney wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
You're being a hypocrite.
Wrong.
Correct. Self defence does not allow you to seek revenge, it allows you to defend yourself. For example if someone is about to commit battery against you (which is what McCarthy's block would have constituted) you can prevent them from doing so. If Rooney had kicked James McCarthy after he had fallen to the floor, and continued to kick him when he was clearly incapacitated, I would have condemned him for it as well.Couple of weeks back you condemned that AZ Alkamaar goalkeeper for over-reacting when a fun jumped at him by kicking him repeatedly. You're now trying to say that what Rooney did was self-defence despite McCarthy only slightly leaning towards him? There was no indication that McCarthy was trying to hurt Rooney whatsoever.Scott wrote:Also, it's worth mentioning ..... I saw people on here yesterday calling Liverpool fans stupid/pathetic etc for booing Bale for diving when our own players dive ...
He wasn't booed for diving. He was booed for starting on Agger when accused of diving.
Agger accused him of diving (unfairly by the way), that's what started the confrontation. One can hardly say he 'started on' Agger when Agger initiated the discussion.
ResurrectionRooney wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Either way, he wasn't going to play in the semifinals. Either his team would have been knocked out or he could have cheated and possibly played in the 3rd place match or final. Not to mention the praise he received from his teammates and country. If anything, it shows how selfish he is. His cuntish behavior is probably what caught the attention of Liverpool FC and they said, we need that kind of player.Just kidding about that last oneOnce a scum, always scum.
The existence and success of Luis Suarez disproves the existence of a just god.
Paulinho wrote:I've done it myself, especially when I was very young. Me and my mate were being rough to some guy at school just because he was ...weird, when we were 10-11. Got in trouble, apologised....Musn't have meant it?
Get caught smoking by my oldies, apologise, didn't mean to smoke cigarette?
Man cheats on wife. Wife finds out. Man apologises, didn't mean it?
Fuck off with your stupid shitty defence
ResurrectionRooney wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
You're being a hypocrite.
Wrong.
Correct. Self defence does not allow you to seek revenge, it allows you to defend yourself. For example if someone is about to commit battery against you (which is what McCarthy's block would have constituted) you can prevent them from doing so. If Rooney had kicked James McCarthy after he had fallen to the floor, and continued to kick him when he was clearly incapacitated, I would have condemned him for it as well.Couple of weeks back you condemned that AZ Alkamaar goalkeeper for over-reacting when a fun jumped at him by kicking him repeatedly. You're now trying to say that what Rooney did was self-defence despite McCarthy only slightly leaning towards him? There was no indication that McCarthy was trying to hurt Rooney whatsoever.
ResurrectionRooney wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Either way, he wasn't going to play in the semifinals. Either his team would have been knocked out or he could have cheated and possibly played in the 3rd place match or final. Not to mention the praise he received from his teammates and country. If anything, it shows how selfish he is. His cuntish behavior is probably what caught the attention of Liverpool FC and they said, we need that kind of player.Just kidding about that last oneOnce a scum, always scum.
The existence and success of Luis Suarez disproves the existence of a just god.
Scott wrote:Paulinho wrote:I've done it myself, especially when I was very young. Me and my mate were being rough to some guy at school just because he was ...weird, when we were 10-11. Got in trouble, apologised....Musn't have meant it?
Get caught smoking by my oldies, apologise, didn't mean to smoke cigarette?
Man cheats on wife. Wife finds out. Man apologises, didn't mean it?
Fuck off with your stupid shitty defence
Those situations just aren't comparable. How do you even know if Suarez did it on purpose?
Scott wrote:It just makes no sense for him to have done it on purpose. People are trying to say he isn't looking at the ball when he kicks Parker, but if you watch closely, his eyes are following the ball to where he expects the ball to land. Parker's head gets in the way and stops the ball from it's travelling along it's natural path (where Suarez expected it to go), which is why Suarez looks as if he's not looking at the ball during the kick.
People also forget that this is a split second thing, I really doubt Suarez would have thought "I better kick Parker on purpose for no apparent reason at all and then apologise straight away".
To anyone with a rational brain, Suarez was trying to volley the ball. It's almost as clear as day, when watching the GIF.
Scott wrote:
Mal wrote:A red card would be very harsh considering the ball dropping towards him unless it was definitely deliberate. But my point to Scott is that none of us knows if it was.
Mc Babel wrote:Some of the people who villifying Suarez and cringeworthy, but so are some of those defending him..
Paulinho wrote:It's the kick that is cringeworthy...
Benitez wrote:Paulinho wrote:It's the kick that is cringeworthy...
Benitez wrote:Paulinho wrote:It's the kick that is cringeworthy...
Benitez wrote:Paulinho wrote:It's the kick that is cringeworthy...
