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    Post by Hitchy Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:06 pm

    Balotelli has swag and is black... he is too hard to hate
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    Post by Zzonked Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:09 pm

    Balotelli can be a cock on the field, he's actually quite a bit of a diver, probably our most prominent.

    Off the field the only thing I can understand hate of him for is his overconfidence. Hating him because he actually does interesting things is stupid, football has enough Gareth Barrys and Scott Parkers.
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    Post by easley91 Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:12 pm

    Zzonked wrote:Balotelli can be a cock on the field, he's actually quite a bit of a diver, probably our most prominent.

    Off the field the only thing I can understand hate of him for is his overconfidence. Hating him because he actually does interesting things is stupid, football has enough Gareth Barrys and Scott Parkers.
    Stupid is an understatement. Letting of fireworks IN your house is beyond stupid. Could've killed himself and anyone who was there. Lucky to have survived. That is not overconfidence, just utter stupidity.
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    Post by Zzonked Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:12 pm

    easley91 wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Balotelli can be a cock on the field, he's actually quite a bit of a diver, probably our most prominent.

    Off the field the only thing I can understand hate of him for is his overconfidence. Hating him because he actually does interesting things is stupid, football has enough Gareth Barrys and Scott Parkers.
    Stupid is an understatement. Letting of fireworks IN your house is beyond stupid. Could've killed himself and anyone who was there. Lucky to have survived. That is not overconfidence, just utter stupidity.

    He wasn't even the one that set them off.
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    Post by easley91 Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:13 pm

    Zzonked wrote:
    easley91 wrote:
    Stupid is an understatement. Letting of fireworks IN your house is beyond stupid. Could've killed himself and anyone who was there. Lucky to have survived. That is not overconfidence, just utter stupidity.

    He wasn't even the one that set them off.
    Even so, he should've been smart enough to stop it.
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    Post by drivescore Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:25 pm

    Stop bringing up the handball vs Ghana.
    If an English player does it in the EUROS to make sure you manage to get out of the group stage you will be bumming him and he will be a hero for you.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:27 pm

    drivescore wrote:Stop bringing up the handball vs Ghana.
    If an English player does it in the EUROS to make sure you manage to get out of the group stage you will be bumming him and he will be a hero for you.

    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.
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    Post by Benitez Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:27 pm

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    drivescore wrote:Stop bringing up the handball vs Ghana.
    If an English player does it in the EUROS to make sure you manage to get out of the group stage you will be bumming him and he will be a hero for you.

    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:28 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.


    Agreed.
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    Post by drivescore Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:35 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    drivescore wrote:Stop bringing up the handball vs Ghana.
    If an English player does it in the EUROS to make sure you manage to get out of the group stage you will be bumming him and he will be a hero for you.

    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.

    It's easy to say right now.
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    Post by Zzonked Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:36 pm

    I probably would have done the same if I was on the line, but I'm a hypocrite so I can dislike him for it anyway. Smile
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:51 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    drivescore wrote:Stop bringing up the handball vs Ghana.
    If an English player does it in the EUROS to make sure you manage to get out of the group stage you will be bumming him and he will be a hero for you.

    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.

    I bet you wouldn't be taking the morale high ground if it were a United player. How about a situation that could occur in the future, say Manchester United are at a Champions League Final and United are one European Cup away from taking over Liverpool's record, would you still cheer the win then? if one of your players save the ball on the line and the follow up pen was missed? Or would you take the morale high ground and say you don't deserve to be ahead of Liverpool and should have the Title taking away from you?
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:20 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
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    If any England player does that I will feel nothing but shame, he should never play football for England again.

    I bet you wouldn't be taking the morale high ground if it were a United player. How about a situation that could occur in the future, say Manchester United are at a Champions League Final and United are one European Cup away from taking over Liverpool's record, would you still cheer the win then? if one of your players save the ball on the line and the follow up pen was missed? Or would you take the morale high ground and say you don't deserve to be ahead of Liverpool and should have the Title taking away from you?
    I'd be disgusted and ashamed if that happened. The whole boasting about records thing though, the number of European Cups you've won, it is just a number that everyone accepts, it's not about what you deserve. You didn't deserve your 5th European Cup, Dudek was constantly cheating, you boast about it because you got the cup though.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:22 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    I bet you wouldn't be taking the morale high ground if it were a United player. How about a situation that could occur in the future, say Manchester United are at a Champions League Final and United are one European Cup away from taking over Liverpool's record, would you still cheer the win then? if one of your players save the ball on the line and the follow up pen was missed? Or would you take the morale high ground and say you don't deserve to be ahead of Liverpool and should have the Title taking away from you?
    I'd be disgusted and ashamed if that happened. The whole boasting about records thing though, the number of European Cups you've won, it is just a number that everyone accepts, it's not about what you deserve. You didn't deserve your 5th European Cup, Dudek was constantly cheating, you boast about it because you got the cup though.

    Laughing

    You'd be disgusted and ashamed but that wouldn't stop you from boasting about the win. That's the problem with your lot though, your quick to point the finger when it's another team but when it comes around to the great Manchester United it's a different story. What is it your fans say? "Where Man' United and we do what we want".

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:33 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
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    I'd be disgusted and ashamed if that happened. The whole boasting about records thing though, the number of European Cups you've won, it is just a number that everyone accepts, it's not about what you deserve. You didn't deserve your 5th European Cup, Dudek was constantly cheating, you boast about it because you got the cup though.

    Laughing

    You'd be disgusted and ashamed but that wouldn't stop you from boasting about the win. That's the problem with your lot though, your quick to point the finger when it's another team but when it comes around to the great Manchester United it's a different story. What is it your fans say? "Where Man' United and we do what we want".
    What do you mean? Do a lot of United fans criticise Liverpool fans for gloating over your illegitimate European Cup in 2005 or something?
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:07 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    Laughing

    You'd be disgusted and ashamed but that wouldn't stop you from boasting about the win. That's the problem with your lot though, your quick to point the finger when it's another team but when it comes around to the great Manchester United it's a different story. What is it your fans say? "Where Man' United and we do what we want".
    What do you mean? Do a lot of United fans criticise Liverpool fans for gloating over your illegitimate European Cup in 2005 or something?

    Not just that but the whole we can get away with blue murder because were United, but when it's Liverpool or another team we dislike it's a different story. Your fans are quick to call things to be fair like kicking out divers like Suarez and how Kenny is getting benefits from the Refs, but then forget about Ronaldo conning refs with his antics to win you countless silverware. You can't have it both ways.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:12 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
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    What do you mean? Do a lot of United fans criticise Liverpool fans for gloating over your illegitimate European Cup in 2005 or something?

    Not just that but the whole we can get away with blue murder because were United, but when it's Liverpool or another team we dislike it's a different story. Your fans are quick to call things to be fair like kicking out divers like Suarez and how Kenny is getting benefits from the Refs, but then forget about Ronaldo conning refs with his antics to win you countless silverware. You can't have it both ways.

    What silverware did we win through Ronaldo 'conning refs with his antics', be specific now. As there are countless instances, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to give us a few examples.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:20 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    Not just that but the whole we can get away with blue murder because were United, but when it's Liverpool or another team we dislike it's a different story. Your fans are quick to call things to be fair like kicking out divers like Suarez and how Kenny is getting benefits from the Refs, but then forget about Ronaldo conning refs with his antics to win you countless silverware. You can't have it both ways.

    What silverware did we win through Ronaldo 'conning refs with his antics', be specific now. As there are countless instances, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to give us a few examples.

    Can't remember specific games but you no as well as I do that he was clever at conning refs.



    It was incidents like that, that got him branded a cheat, yet still loved by United fans.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:00 am

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
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    What silverware did we win through Ronaldo 'conning refs with his antics', be specific now. As there are countless instances, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to give us a few examples.

    Can't remember specific games but you no as well as I do that he was clever at conning refs.



    It was incidents like that, that got him branded a cheat, yet still loved by United fans.

    Alright, so which pieces of silverware did his 'antics' win us? I can't remember any.
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    Post by Dean Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:16 am

    Luis. not worthy
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:20 am

    Dean wrote:Luis. not worthy
    Get him tattoo'd on your head.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:29 am

    Zzonked wrote:Balotelli can be a cock on the field, he's actually quite a bit of a diver, probably our most prominent.

    Off the field the only thing I can understand hate of him for is his overconfidence. Hating him because he actually does interesting things is stupid, football has enough Gareth Barrys and Scott Parkers.
    Umm...the same Balotelli that cheated on his girlfriend with her best friend? think
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    Post by Zzonked Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:19 am

    Glen Damon wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Balotelli can be a cock on the field, he's actually quite a bit of a diver, probably our most prominent.

    Off the field the only thing I can understand hate of him for is his overconfidence. Hating him because he actually does interesting things is stupid, football has enough Gareth Barrys and Scott Parkers.
    Umm...the same Balotelli that cheated on his girlfriend with her best friend? think

    He's a young man in love. Obviously you just love stamping all over love. I wonder what your 'jebus' would think of that, he was a well known lover.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:23 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Glen Damon wrote:Umm...the same Balotelli that cheated on his girlfriend with her best friend? think

    He's a young man in love. Obviously you just love stamping all over love. I wonder what your 'jebus' would think of that, he was a well known lover.
    Uhh...okay. scratch
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:52 pm

    In regards to the Suarez handball V ghana, I would of just used my head.......... That would of been easy enough.
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    Post by SBSP Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:00 pm

    Zzonked said something stupid? scratch eek
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    Post by Benitez Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:01 pm

    SuperManUtd wrote:In regards to the Suarez handball V ghana, I would of just used my head.......... That would of been easy enough.

    facepalm No it wouldn't the ball was coming right at him lower than his head, it was impossible for him to header it at the speed the ball was coming at him, i would of done the same if i was in that situation, he clearly isn't selfish and would rather his team go through than he played.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:05 pm

    Benitez wrote:
    SuperManUtd wrote:In regards to the Suarez handball V ghana, I would of just used my head.......... That would of been easy enough.

    facepalm No it wouldn't the ball was coming right at him lower than his head, it was impossible for him to header it at the speed the ball was coming at him, i would of done the same if i was in that situation, he clearly isn't selfish and would rather his team go through than he played.

    There's nothing unselfish about it at all...

    Scenario A) The ball goes into the goal. Suarez and his team are out of the cup.

    Scenario B) He blocks the ball with his hand for a possibility of playing in the 3rd place match or final of a WC.
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:07 pm

    easley91 wrote:
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    Its at the top of the page.
    I feel stupid for not seeing that. I think I scrolled down before my slow laptop could load it. Laughing But from what I see he goes for the kick just AFTER Parker heads the ball away and is LOOKING at Parker. You cannot defend that.

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    The problem i have is that people will always agree that he meant to do bad. The parker incident, you can see him look at the ball before he kicks yet people refute that? they say suarez is a cunt so he must of meant it.

    Exactly, I like mario. He has done things that are admirable but i will call him out on shit he does that is wrong.

    If Suarez had given money to a hobo then there would be a thread about how he is giving money to a drug addict.
    If Suarez had gone to a school and asked for a toilet then there would be a thread about how he is wasting school's precious time.
    If Suarez had helped a kid with a bully then there would be a thread about how he is dealing with things he has no business in and that means he must be evil.

    Suarez put his hand in front of the ball in which could of been an instinctive reaction and he kicked ghana out of the world cup, people continue to bring it up even if he got what he deserved from it. Henry put his hand on the ball on purpose and kept ireland out of the world cup. Yet that handball is not talked about anymore, it was swept under the rug because we all love him.

    Suarez is a cunt and i will not blindly defend him like others but i will not sit by and let you guys be hypocrite.
    (this may not be you but you can't deny there are people being hypocrites on this situation)
    I try not to be a hypocrite. I never said whether Suarez meant it or not, but he did kick Parker in the stomach, which could still be a sending off. The handball is forgotten because that was a few years ago now, and that is Henry's only real incident that I can remember (I may be wrong and forgotten stuff though).

    From what I can see, Suarez keeps getting talked about, because he's done a lot more than just one thing. He continues to do stuff and be involved in high profile incidents.

    You imply it.

    You can see on this thread that people directly say suarez meant it even if the video shows he was looking at the ball and we can't prove it either way.

    People hate suarez and then ignore other players who are cunts. People find reasons for other players but not for suarez because he must be an ass.

    Henry did something that would of gotten any other player into shit but because we like him we defend him.

    ahlycotc wrote:The reason I think people like Balotelli more is because he is like a cute little child. People act like he does most of the stuff because he just doesn't know better. Also, some of the stuff he does makes people laugh.

    Suarez on the other hand seems like a sneaky bastard. He does stuff and acts all innocent about as if he is the victim.

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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:09 pm

    I wasn't defending Balotelli, I was just saying why others might like him more than Suarez.

    I think they are both cunts.

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