easley91 wrote:Full game or just the clips we need?Mal wrote:http://www.fileswap.com/dl/Q9V9b4MfR...m1stH.rar.html
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/ZC8JAtpn9...ham2H.flv.html
Get watching people.
Full game. I ain't trimming clips out of it.
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The conduct of Luis Suarez
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Full game. I ain't trimming clips out of it.
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Scott wrote:Except he doesn't expect Parker to get his head to it, which is why he attempts the kick in the first place.
Are you serious? the ball is a meter above his foot, a professional footballer wouldn't miss kick by a fucking meter
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It is clear for everyone to see that Luis Suarez was sincerely distressed by the sight of seeing Scott Parker in pain as a result of an accidental kick to the stomach, we must not let Suarez' past offences cloud our judgement when deciding whether or not he truly intended to make contact with the opponent.easley91 wrote:I think he only apologized to try and not get the yellow card or stop the ref from sending him off saying 'it was intentional!'Jay wrote:Clearly going for the volley. Look at the way he apologized straight away, true gentleman. I think Suarez deserves praise for these actions, a round of applause would be fitting.
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ahlycotc wrote:Scott wrote:
Again, ignoring the fact that's where the ball was travelling. Laurencio has already explained it. Stop being so ignorant.
So if a ball is traveling on a certain path, but there is a goalkeeper in the way, does that give the player the right to go with a foot up or charge the keeper?
Suarez didn't expect Parker to get to it.
The scenario you described happens all the time though. Does that means the players purposely try to kick the goalkeeper?
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easley91 wrote:If you don't understand how it got there, then how can you assure me? By the looks of it, I've got more backing up that it was from that Skrtel tackle.drivescore wrote:
I also don't understand how it got there because there was no tackle I remember too.Very strange but it was definitely there before Skrtel's tackle I can assure you
I don't understand how he got it but I can assure you I saw it before the tackle by Skrtel.
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ahlycotc wrote:Scott wrote:
He pushed Parker away from where the ball was dropping to. Parker bounced back into the path of the ball. All in a split second. Stop being dumb.
Maybe you need to watch it again...
Notice how Parker's right leg never moves back after being pushed. If anything Suarez pushes Parker into the path of the ball.
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
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Fonseca wrote:Scott wrote:Except he doesn't expect Parker to get his head to it, which is why he attempts the kick in the first place.
Are you serious? the ball is a meter above his foot, a professional footballer wouldn't miss kick by a fucking meter
Oh my god
Yeah, it's a metre above because Parker fucking headed it away, you utter idiot. If you took Parker out of the equation, it would have been a perfectly timed volley.
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Neither am I, and I'm not watching the whole match to see two incidents that last like a few seconds each.Mal wrote:easley91 wrote:
Full game or just the clips we need?
Full game. I ain't trimming clips out of it.
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Yeah, alright, what about the push, are we going to come up with some excuse for that as well? And the eye gouge?
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Im off.
When I get back I expect this thread to be 12 pages long.
When I get back I expect this thread to be 12 pages long.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:I don't need to prove that he was going to block him, you need to prove that Rooney didn't think McCarthy was going to block him. So go on and do it.BladeGunner wrote:
Oh, alright then. I'm going to start running towards a random person on the street and if he doesn't move out of my way, I'm going to elbow him in the face. Self-defence, no? You can't prove that McCarthy was going to block him. He looks like he's shifting his body as Rooney approaches, doesn't mean that he was going to block him.
What? No. Rooney is the one who's committed assault. It's up to you to prove that he did it to defend himself.
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Saying if you take Parker out of the equation doesn't matter, because that is all ifs and buts.Scott wrote:Fonseca wrote:
Are you serious? the ball is a meter above his foot, a professional footballer wouldn't miss kick by a fucking meter
Oh my godYeah, it's a metre above because Parker fucking headed it away, you utter idiot. If you took Parker out of the equation, it would have been a perfectly timed volley.
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Laurencio wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Scott wrote:
He pushed Parker away from where the ball was dropping to. Parker bounced back into the path of the ball. All in a split second. Stop being dumb.
Maybe you need to watch it again...
Notice how Parker's right leg never moves back after being pushed. If anything Suarez pushes Parker into the path of the ball.
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
Completing the kick? Was he meant to pull off a Mortal Kombat fatality and just kick right through Parker's body?
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Laurencio wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Maybe you need to watch it again...
Notice how Parker's right leg never moves back after being pushed. If anything Suarez pushes Parker into the path of the ball.
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
What are the signs of surprise? Signalling to the ref, he does this almost instantly....
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Luis Suarez.Scott wrote:Who in their right mind would attempt to kick a footballer in the midriff on purpose on the back of an 8 match ban?
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easley91 wrote:Saying if you take Parker out of the equation doesn't matter, because that is all ifs and buts.Scott wrote:
Oh my god
You people are so fucking stupid. Laurencio, back me up please.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Yeah, alright, what about the push, are we going to come up with some excuse for that as well? And the eye gouge?
I don't think anyone can deny that Suarez is a dirty player
Paulinho wrote:Laurencio wrote:
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
What are the signs of surprise? Signalling to the ref, he does this almost instantly....
Look a the way his body reacts when he notices parker. His left hand changes direction, his back arches and his kick is clearly interrupted. If he meant to kick him there's no way these reflexes would have been put in motion.
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Mal wrote:Laurencio wrote:
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
Completing the kick? Was he meant to pull off a Mortal Kombat fatality and just kick right through Parker's body?
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Scott wrote:Fonseca wrote:
Are you serious? the ball is a meter above his foot, a professional footballer wouldn't miss kick by a fucking meter
Oh my god
You're so fucking deluded in just about everything
Well done you imbecile
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I don't think we're going to come to a conclusion here, and I'm off to the Crawley game later, so may as well end it.
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Scott wrote:Who in their right mind would attempt to kick a footballer in the midriff on purpose on the back of an 8 match ban? It's just not logical.
This is Suarez we are talking about. What player in their right mind would bite a player? What player in their right mind would make an offensive gesture towards fans while already in hot water for making racist comments?
Scott wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
So if a ball is traveling on a certain path, but there is a goalkeeper in the way, does that give the player the right to go with a foot up or charge the keeper?
Suarez didn't expect Parker to get to it.
The scenario you described happens all the time though. Does that means the players purposely try to kick the goalkeeper?
I'm not really arguing whether he did it on purpose or not. I'm arguing the fact that Suarez knew exactly where Parker was. Whether intentional or not, it could very well be viewed as violent conduct.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Yeah, alright, what about the push, are we going to come up with some excuse for that as well? And the eye gouge?
The push happens in penalty boxes every single match. It's the norm. Man United players do it.
The eye gauge is a classic example of a photo making something look worse than it was. That was when Suarez was desperately trying to get the ball, Parker didn't even hold his eye or go down, so it obviously wasn't a proper eye gauge, otherwise Parker would have felt it.
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Fonseca wrote:Scott wrote:
Oh my god
You're so fucking deluded in just about everything
Well done you imbecile
Yeah just post smileys and insults when you haven't got a proper response to my post.
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Scott wrote:easley91 wrote:
Saying if you take Parker out of the equation doesn't matter, because that is all ifs and buts.
You people are so fucking stupid. Laurencio, back me up please.
You people, standard Liverpool talk.
Also, you are the one who is fucking stupid. It's embarassing, really.
Laurencio; it doesn't look as he is surprised, it just looks like he is regaining his balance after the kick
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Look at Luis Suarez' left arm when contact is made with Scott Parker's midriff. It instantly jolts into the air in shock, like when someone jumps out on you or catches you by surprise, it was an involuntary movement, it was so in time with the contact that he just couldn't have done it on purpose.
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Laurencio wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Maybe you need to watch it again...
Notice how Parker's right leg never moves back after being pushed. If anything Suarez pushes Parker into the path of the ball.
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
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Mal wrote:Laurencio wrote:
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
Completing the kick? Was he meant to pull off a Mortal Kombat fatality and just kick right through Parker's body?
Of course not. However you do not react like that when you are intentionally causing harm.
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Jay wrote:Look at Luis Suarez' left arm when contact is made with Scott Parker's midriff. It instantly jolts into the air in shock, like when someone jumps out on you or catches you by surprise, it was an involuntary movement, it was so in time with the contact that he just couldn't have done it on purpose.
I noticed that. His whole body jolts back in shock, almost. Even his left leg.
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Scott wrote:Fonseca wrote:
You're so fucking deluded in just about everything
Well done you imbecile
Yeah just post smileys and insults when you haven't got a proper response to my post.
I have proof... Would you like me to talk you through it so you can comprehend what happened?
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Laurencio wrote:Mal wrote:Laurencio wrote:
There are 4 things I notice above all else. First his eyes are fixated on the ball, his kick is next to perfectly timed with the trajectory of the ball, when he hits parker his entire body shows signs of surprise (you can't fake that) and he seems to pull his leg back instantly instead of "completing" the kick.
Completing the kick? Was he meant to pull off a Mortal Kombat fatality and just kick right through Parker's body?
Of course not. However you do not react like that when you are intentionally causing harm.
I'm not saying he did it intentionally but that kick was completed. If the ball was there he would of smashed it just as he did with Parker's ribs.
