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    Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned

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    Post by drivescore Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:40 pm

    I agree he should not have banned but there is no point complaining about it now, the beast is back and he better play down the right on Saturday Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 9905
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:12 pm

    Splashy wrote:Disgusting:

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    Probably aiming for Ledley King the racist bastard Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 F_tongueincheek


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    Post by Paulinho Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:12 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    Splashy wrote:Disgusting:

    Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 Article-2097434-119DA3F0000005DC-662_468x286

    Probably aiming for Ledley King this racist bastard Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 F_tongueincheek

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    Post by Grenade Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:39 pm

    The reason Liverpool did not appeal is because the facts provided to back up Evra were irrefutable. Suarez may not be a racist (not that we could know for sure) but he broke the rules and that's that. You can't just say "oh we didn't know we couldn't do that" and get let off Neutral
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:05 pm

    Scott wrote:Dalglish believes Suarez to be be innocent. So do I. It was a cultural misunderstanding that Evra took in the wrong way.

    The FA chose to believe Evra over Suarez, over 'probability'. Which is fucking pathetic.

    The FA didn't decide this case, and independent commission did. If the decision was so obviously incorrect then an appeal to a different independent commission would almost certainly have been successful.

    Also, the balance of probability is what a substantial part of the legal process in this country is based on, and what all FA decisions previous have been based on. Roy Keane was banned twice for his tackle on Haaland on the basis that he probably did it intentionally, was that some kind of injustice? The same for Benjamin Thatcher's assault on Pedro Mendes, then of Portsmouth. Injustice?
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:31 pm

    Stupid comment to make.

    Should have just left it alone. But once again he's showed himself up.
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    Post by El_indian Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:32 pm

    why is this news? don't we all already know the he thought this??? Confused
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:37 pm

    El_indian wrote:why is this news? don't we all already know the he thought this??? Confused
    It brings the game into disrepute.
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    Post by El_indian Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:40 pm

    not really....I don't think anything less of it.

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    Post by Scouser_Dave Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:19 pm

    El_indian wrote:why is this news? don't we all already know the he thought this??? Confused

    What do you expect, the majority of this forum is obsessed with hating Liverpool.
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    Post by easley91 Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:48 pm

    I don't hate Liverpool, just hate Saurez, because he is a prick. Kenny didn't need to say that, he's just bringing it up again when he could just let it go. He served his ban and is back (though should've been sent off last night to be honest) just continue with the season.

    I don't get the hate for Parker though. Neutral
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    Post by Jorlung Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:53 pm

    Benitez wrote:
    Splashy wrote:Disgusting:

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    Shame he didn't kick him harder Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 1371890812
    No wonder you bum Suarez so much.
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    Post by Steadman Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:56 pm

    Liverpool vs the world.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:58 pm

    El_indian wrote:why is this news? don't we all already know the he thought this??? Confused
    Kenny Dalglish brought it up again.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:00 am

    easley91 wrote:I don't get the hate for Parker though. Neutral

    He's joined Bale on the over rated hate wagon.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:04 am

    I was more annoyed by pleading the fifth tbh. First of all there is no fifth amendment in the UK. Second, the right to avoid self-incrimination does not apply to incriminating others (rather obviously). Third, it's an american refrence, not a british one think


    But yeah... Who cares what he thinks? Suarez served his suspension without kicking up a fuss, so for my part he's served his punishment and starts on blank slates. Dalglish talks a lot of rubbish, but to be fair Suarez has been fairly dignified in his handling of the event, it's his employer who do weird things, not him.
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    Post by Jorlung Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:57 am

    Laurencio wrote:But yeah... Who cares what he thinks? Suarez served his suspension without kicking up a fuss, so for my part he's served his punishment and starts on blank slates. Dalglish talks a lot of rubbish, but to be fair Suarez has been fairly dignified in his handling of the event, it's his employer who do weird things, not him.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:07 am

    Jorlung wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:But yeah... Who cares what he thinks? Suarez served his suspension without kicking up a fuss, so for my part he's served his punishment and starts on blank slates. Dalglish talks a lot of rubbish, but to be fair Suarez has been fairly dignified in his handling of the event, it's his employer who do weird things, not him.
    Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSibeZ1CNNniZBjW5quqGGbr5vBn6Gl3IlkFRKUYS8db-Hc4LNXs89AlUMKUg

    I said Suarez, not Liverpool.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:10 am

    He hasn't really kicked up a fuss though, he's said one thing out of loads of different stuff in an interview and people are picking up on it Laughing
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    Post by Jorlung Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:11 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Jorlung wrote:Dalglish: Suarez should never have been banned - Page 3 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSibeZ1CNNniZBjW5quqGGbr5vBn6Gl3IlkFRKUYS8db-Hc4LNXs89AlUMKUg

    I said Suarez, not Liverpool.
    I suppose you're not familiar with the "Lame Pun ice cream" and/or did not see that pun in that statement.


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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:11 am

    Jorlung wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    I said Suarez, not Liverpool.
    I suppose you're not familiar with the "Lame Pun ice cream" and/or did not see that pun in that statement.

    I am not.

    Cam wrote:He hasn't really kicked up a fuss though, he's said one thing out of loads of different stuff in an interview and people are picking up on it Laughing

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    That my friend, is a fuss.


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    Post by Jorlung Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:13 am

    Wtf C o o n sensors to ice cream?

    Is that some sort of insult in the UK? Over here it just is short for racoon lol.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:25 am

    Cam wrote:He hasn't really kicked up a fuss though, he's said one thing out of loads of different stuff in an interview and people are picking up on it Laughing

    Should never have mentioned it at all. Wasn't even asked about it.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:42 am

    Jorlung wrote:Wtf C o o n sensors to ice cream?

    Is that some sort of insult in the UK? Over here it just is short for racoon lol.
    Yeah it is insulting, I had to google it myself because I didn't know either.

    C o o n

    An insulting name for a black person. Similar to 'N i g g e r'.

    Black man: "What's up homie?"
    White man: "Can't you c o o n's talk proper English?"
    Black man: *Shoots White Man*
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:36 am

    Grenade wrote:The reason Liverpool did not appeal is because the facts provided to back up Evra were irrefutable. Suarez may not be a racist (not that we could know for sure) but he broke the rules and that's that. You can't just say "oh we didn't know we couldn't do that" and get let off Neutral

    We could only appeal the length of the ban, not the verdict because the whole thing was such a fucking farce.


    Kenny.. not worthy
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:46 am

    Dan wrote:
    Grenade wrote:The reason Liverpool did not appeal is because the facts provided to back up Evra were irrefutable. Suarez may not be a racist (not that we could know for sure) but he broke the rules and that's that. You can't just say "oh we didn't know we couldn't do that" and get let off Neutral

    We could only appeal the length of the ban, not the verdict because the whole thing was such a fucking farce.


    Kenny.. not worthy

    Well that's not true.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:48 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    We could only appeal the length of the ban, not the verdict because the whole thing was such a fucking farce.


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    Well that's not true.

    No, it is. We weren't able to appeal the decision only the punishment served.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:53 am

    Dan wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    Well that's not true.

    No, it is. We weren't able to appeal the decision only the punishment served.

    Impossible. Appealing could bring the case to a new instance, which has far more power, and thus capable of overturning the original decision.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:55 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    No, it is. We weren't able to appeal the decision only the punishment served.

    Impossible. Appealing could bring the case to a new instance, which has far more power, and thus capable of overturning the original decision.

    It's not impossible, it was not done through a court of law and because of that the FA were able to make their judgement on the length of the ban.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:59 am

    Dan wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    Impossible. Appealing could bring the case to a new instance, which has far more power, and thus capable of overturning the original decision.

    It's not impossible, it was not done through a court of law and because of that the FA were able to make their judgement on the length of the ban.

    You had 14 days to appeal to a higher instance. If you had you could have argued against the decision and whatever was decided by the independent commission could easily have been irrelevant. Suarez suspension would have been put on hold until the appeal process had been completed.

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