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    The Atheist Thread

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    Post by MickStupp Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:53 am

    Splashy wrote:
    InGlennyWeTrust wrote:But I have not yet seen my livers? And any pictures from scans they run could easily be photoshopped think
    Now you're just being even more retareded.
    That went well.
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:54 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:If this thread has no point, neither does the Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool threads.

    Also those internet memes are not there to bash religion. They are there to discuss points of why we don't believe in god.

    Also there is lots of discussion to be had over religion. To begin, In Science, you have to observe, theorize, test, then modify hypothesis until you get the result. The problem with History is that you cannot test a hypothesis, you cannot simply make a model earth and test things, but there is one thing you can use for testing - our planet and all it's history and people. Thus makes way for why I find religion a very interesting subject. It is so because it is interesting to study how the environment shaped peoples beliefs in a time before the scientific method and modern science, and in turn, how those same beliefs influenced peoples decision making when the very same environment changed over time. Religion is also much like language and the human race, always evolving.
    How often do you genuinely discuss it in here? It's mainly just bashing and arguing.

    The football fans actually discuss their club in those threads.


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    Post by MickStupp Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:54 am

    InGlennyWeTrust wrote:Pascal's Wager is grossly misinterpreted.
    Care to elaborate?
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:54 am

    Splashy wrote:
    InGlennyWeTrust wrote:But I have not yet seen my livers? And any pictures from scans they run could easily be photoshopped The Atheist Thread - Page 7 214775
    Now you're just being even more retarded.
    Once again, a tactical edit to avoid accusations of hypocrisy. The Atheist Thread - Page 7 214775
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:56 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    Now you're just being even more retareded.
    That went well.
    I am quite drunk so you will have make do with my poor spelling.

    Also I edited it but your a sad cunt who sits there refreshing the page.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:56 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:

    Because there's no evidence to disprove a whole multitude of things. Just because it's not definitely untrue doesn't mean it's true. Flying spaghetti monster territory here.

    Yet people who believe in a god are treated differently?

    I often compare religious people to people who believe in alien life. We can't currently prove or disprove alien intelligent life.
    facepalm

    WE EXIST.

    That is enough reason to believe that life is possible, and that it could occur on other planets. Have you found a proof of a god's existence?
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:56 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    SBSP wrote:Why not?

    Because there's no evidence to disprove a whole multitude of things. Just because it's not definitely untrue doesn't mean it's true. Flying spaghetti monster territory here.

    Yet people who believe in a god are treated differently?

    I often compare religious people to people who believe in alien life. We can't currently prove or disprove alien intelligent life.

    They are treated differently because they act differently. For example persecuting homosexuals because of the bible. Any why do they believe in the bible? Because it can't be disproven? Doesn't seem right to me at all.
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    Post by MickStupp Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:57 am

    Splashy wrote:
    MickStupp wrote:
    That went well.
    I am quite drunk so you will have make do with my poor spelling.

    Also I edited it but your a sad cunt who sits there refreshing the page.
    Hey, don't have a go at me, it was a tongue-in-cheek quip.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:57 am

    SBSP wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:If this thread has no point, neither does the Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool threads.

    Also those internet memes are not there to bash religion. They are there to discuss points of why we don't believe in god.

    Also there is lots of discussion to be had over religion. To begin, In Science, you have to observe, theorize, test, then modify hypothesis until you get the result. The problem with History is that you cannot test a hypothesis, you cannot simply make a model earth and test things, but there is one thing you can use for testing - our planet and all it's history and people. Thus makes way for why I find religion a very interesting subject. It is so because it is interesting to study how the environment shaped peoples beliefs in a time before the scientific method and modern science, and in turn, how those same beliefs influenced peoples decision making when the very same environment changed over time. Religion is also much like language and the human race, always evolving.
    How often do you genuinely discuss it in here? It's mainly just bashing and arguing.

    The football fans actually discuss their club in those threads.
    Well it hasn't been bumped in a awhile.

    And Atheists actually discuss religion in this thread? I don't know what point you are getting at.
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:57 am

    Splashy wrote:
    MickStupp wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    Now you're just being even more retareded.
    That went well.
    I am quite drunk so you will have make do with my poor spelling.

    Also I edited it but your a sad cunt who sits there refreshing the page.

    You cold hearted religious nuts have driven poor Splashy to booze! For shame!
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:58 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:
    SBSP wrote:
    How often do you genuinely discuss it in here? It's mainly just bashing and arguing.

    The football fans actually discuss their club in those threads.
    Well it hasn't been bumped in a awhile.

    And Atheists actually discuss religion in this thread? I don't know what point you are getting at.
    I'm saying this thread has no real point, and if it did, it didn't stick to it.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:58 am

    SBSP wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Well it hasn't been bumped in a awhile.

    And Atheists actually discuss religion in this thread? I don't know what point you are getting at.
    I'm saying this thread has no real point, and if it did, it didn't stick to it.
    So what? Do you want to delete the Liverpool thread whenever it goes off topic?
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:59 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:
    SBSP wrote:I'm saying this thread has no real point, and if it did, it didn't stick to it.
    So what? Do you want to delete the Liverpool thread whenever it goes off topic?
    Has this thread EVER been on topic?
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:59 am

    Zzonked wrote:
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    Fair enough. Maybe there is a God out there but all the current religions are just false. Or maybe there is only one true religion out there.

    Yeah that's the logical stance to take, if you understand that, do you just believe because of Pascals Wager?

    No. First of all I don't agree with Pascals Wager. Pascals Wager assumes that solely the belief in God is enough to send you to heaven. I believe it takes more than that. I believe in a God because the theory makes the most sense to me at this point. Out of all the religions, Islam makes the most sense to me, which is why I choose to follow it.

    My point of that post was to say that just because you find holes in some or even most religions, doesn't make all religions false. Furthermore, it doesn't make the existence of God impossible.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:59 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    I am quite drunk so you will have make do with my poor spelling.

    Also I edited it but your a sad cunt who sits there refreshing the page.
    Hey, don't have a go at me, it was a tongue-in-cheek quip.
    Sorry. Embarassed
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:59 am

    SBSP wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:So what? Do you want to delete the Liverpool thread whenever it goes off topic?
    Has this thread EVER been on topic?
    Still is.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:00 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    I am quite drunk so you will have make do with my poor spelling.

    Also I edited it but your a sad cunt who sits there refreshing the page.

    You cold hearted religious nuts have driven poor Splashy to booze! For shame!
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:01 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    InGlennyWeTrust wrote:Pascal's Wager is grossly misinterpreted.
    Care to elaborate?
    Peoples' assumptions on his wager are based on the idea that Pascal never read the works of Paul's 1 Corinthians. People play the "percentages" game in every other part of life other than religion. However, when it comes to religion, they ignore the publicly accepted (and misunderstood) "wager." As such, it's suggesting that the decision to ignore God is a moral one, not a rational/percentage based one.

    Does that make sense?


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    Post by MickStupp Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:01 am

    Splashy wrote:
    MickStupp wrote:
    Hey, don't have a go at me, it was a tongue-in-cheek quip.
    Sorry. Embarassed
    It's cool, I should really have used a smiley like Razz or The Atheist Thread - Page 7 3925848005
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:01 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    Yet people who believe in a god are treated differently?

    I often compare religious people to people who believe in alien life. We can't currently prove or disprove alien intelligent life.
    facepalm

    WE EXIST.

    That is enough reason to believe that life is possible, and that it could occur on other planets. Have you found a proof of a god's existence?

    That's not proof that alien intelligent life exists. facepalm
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:02 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    SBSP wrote:Has this thread EVER been on topic?
    Still is.
    Neutral
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:03 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:facepalm

    WE EXIST.

    That is enough reason to believe that life is possible, and that it could occur on other planets. Have you found a proof of a god's existence?

    That's not proof that alien intelligent life exists. facepalm
    It's reason to suggest it does though.

    What proof is there that gives reason to suggest god exists?
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:03 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    Fair enough. Maybe there is a God out there but all the current religions are just false. Or maybe there is only one true religion out there.

    Yeah that's the logical stance to take, if you understand that, do you just believe because of Pascals Wager?

    No. First of all I don't agree with Pascals Wager. Pascals Wager assumes that solely the belief in God is enough to send you to heaven. I believe it takes more than that. I believe in a God because the theory makes the most sense to me at this point. Out of all the religions, Islam makes the most sense to me, which is why I choose to follow it.

    My point of that post was to say that just because you find holes in some or even most religions, doesn't make all religions false. Furthermore, it doesn't make the existence of God impossible.

    Pascals wager also dictates that you live accordingly to that religion I think, so it isn't just belief. You chose to follow Islam? You weren't born into an Islamic family then? Or maybe you were and it's just some happy coincidence. What a Face

    I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just saying it's not a good reason to believe.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:03 am

    SBSP wrote:
    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:Still is.
    Neutral
    smug Convo won. Smile
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:05 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    SBSP wrote:
    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:So what? Do you want to delete the Liverpool thread whenever it goes off topic?
    Has this thread EVER been on topic?
    Still is.

    Must agree. If this isn't on topic I'm not sure what is. shifty
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:07 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    That's not proof that alien intelligent life exists. facepalm
    It's reason to suggest it does though.

    What proof is there that gives reason to suggest god exists?

    That's a suggestion, but not proof.

    What makes me suggest God exists? That the universe had a beginning and it needed something to trigger the Big Bang. Furthermore, the universe was created in such unimaginable odds that it suggests purpose/design. Those are my reasonings.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:08 am

    Agnosticism is not an alternative position to Theism or Atheism, only the mentally ill are not agnostic.
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    Post by Jordi Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:08 am

    The big bang was triggered by Emile Heskey and Christopher Samba running into each other.
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:10 am

    I do believe in God. shifty
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:11 am

    Gegilworld93 wrote:I do believe in God. shifty
    Lies!

    You lie about a lot of stuff, like being black. Dry Smile

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