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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:35 am

    The Football League has rejected Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas' suggestion that top Premier League clubs be allowed to field reserve sides in the Championship.

    Villas-Boas said the move would help young players make the step up to Premier League football.

    But League chief Andy Williamson said Football League clubs should not become feeder sides to the Premier League.

    "The suggestion is frankly offensive," Williamson said.

    "Our clubs are constituted as sovereign entities which represent their town or city with pride, rather than being a subsidiary of another club in another part of the country," he continued.

    "These are senior professional football matches that matter - they are not just platforms for developing other clubs' players."

    Villas-Boas said on Thursday that England should follow the example of Spain, where Barcelona's 'B' team play in the second flight.

    "What happens in Barcelona is a good model in terms of competitions. They promote talent," he said.

    "If your 'B' team plays in the Championship, where they are fourth or sixth and threatening, playing good football, you'd call them up.

    "It could be a great benefit because you don't have to work with a 26-man squad, but a 19-man squad and just recall the best young guys with constant activity.

    "The reserve team, for all the hard work, is not competitive. It serves the first team, but it doesn't serve the progression of talent coming through.

    "The youth development system in England is not right."

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said smaller clubs would not support Villas-Boas's proposal.

    "The supporters of Barnet do not want their club not to be promoted because the reserve team of Arsenal is in front of them," he said.

    "It is very difficult to mix the interests of the smaller clubs with the interests of the big clubs who could have a second team, and could be competitive in the smaller leagues."

    Wenger said that the loan system helped young players make the transition from reserve team football to the Premier League.

    "We give our players out on loan to the lower leagues. If they manage to convince people they can play in there, they come back," he said.

    Wenger also said the forthcoming overhaul of the Premier League's Academy system should aid player development.

    "They will create an Under-21 league with all the best teams in England together," he said. "That I find quite interesting."
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    Post by Zzonked Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:37 am

    They could start at the very bottom I guess, but I don't think it would be fair to put them right in the championship.

    I'd enjoy having an extra team though, would add a bit more interest.
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    Post by Benitez Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:37 am

    Agree with Zzonked, should not be put in championship.

    It's already an annoying rule in Spain
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    Post by Marvin Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:37 am

    Good idea, far too late, their loss, etc.
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    Post by Jordi Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:38 am

    No. Just no.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:39 am

    Benitez and Mourinho have both backed this in the past.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:44 am

    I could see Fergie sending Rooney to the B team for a few games so they could wreck shit up.. just for fun.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:46 am

    That's ridiculous, Villas Boas can fuck off.
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    Post by Lux Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:02 am

    No fuck that. That gives them an advantage over other teams. Not every team could do it......unlike other leagues there are a lot of big teams in England....there just isn't that empty gap the same way that there is in Spain.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:39 am

    No our lower leagues are already fine. Fuck off Villas Boas.
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    Post by Zzonked Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:41 am

    Lux wrote:No fuck that. That gives them an advantage over other teams. Not every team could do it......unlike other leagues there are a lot of big teams in England....there just isn't that empty gap the same way that there is in Spain.

    They can't get promoted though, so it wouldn't matter too much if they won the championship or whatever.
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    Post by Lux Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:46 am

    Zzonked wrote:
    Lux wrote:No fuck that. That gives them an advantage over other teams. Not every team could do it......unlike other leagues there are a lot of big teams in England....there just isn't that empty gap the same way that there is in Spain.

    They can't get promoted though, so it wouldn't matter too much if they won the championship or whatever.

    It's not about that. I don't think there is a place in the Championship for them. It is already competitive enough, would be unfair on all the other teams if big Premier League teams with big budgets could just field 2nd teams in the division like it's some reserve league.
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    Post by Jordan Henderchip Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:06 am

    isn't that what a Reserve League is for?
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:10 am

    I would propose this:

    Allow B teams, but do not allow them to get promoted into League 2.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:20 am

    Nah. They have the League Cup for that.
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    Post by Lux Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:49 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:I would propose this:

    Allow B teams, but do not allow them to get promoted into League 2.

    Do you actually mean League 2....or the 2nd league (Championship)?

    For them.....having a conference level 2nd team wouldn't really help them as the standard is too low. For us...them having a Championship team is too much.

    I do agree that the way the reserve leagues are now..it's not always great. Even Watford left the reserve league to organise a whole fixture list of better friendlies.
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    Post by Laurencio Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:52 am

    I like Wenger's U21 league idea. Sounds better.
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    Post by Lux Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:00 am

    The problem with this is that...it's just going to lead to even more poaching. If these teams have 2nd teams in the Championship....it makes joining them more appealing. If they don't play in the first team....they'll probably get a 2nd team run out....if they play well in the 2nd team then they go up to the first team or move on because they are playing competitive football and showing themselves off.

    Especially after the recent new rule which was black mailed upon the Football League (where there is now a set amount of compensation owed to clubs when teams poach players...which will be an amount far less than they would be able to get without the rule)....there is just too much power with these big clubs.

    Smaller teams survive off of being able to produce young players, train them up, give them game time and get a good amount of money for them. If teams like Chelsea and Man City can offer that then we stand no chance.
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    Post by Grenade Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:24 am

    Wengers idea sounds quite interesting actually. But again the shit clubs in England will pull the big clubs down because they're managed badly and wouldn't be willing to invest in an u21 teams and all that stuff and they will whinge about wanting it to be easier etc.

    As 50cent would say, get rich or die trying. No mercy for the weak clubs, we should really try improve English football asap. We're quickly falling behind compared to other nations. Fuck the other clubs, survival of the fittest you're either good enough to stay with the times or you fuck off down under. Villas Boas wants Premiership "B" teams in the Championship. 28973
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:25 am

    Fuck this, keep the premiership circus in the prem please.
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    Post by Lux Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:08 am

    Grenade wrote:Wengers idea sounds quite interesting actually. But again the shit clubs in England will pull the big clubs down because they're managed badly and wouldn't be willing to invest in an u21 teams and all that stuff and they will whinge about wanting it to be easier etc.

    As 50cent would say, get rich or die trying. No mercy for the weak clubs, we should really try improve English football asap. We're quickly falling behind compared to other nations. Fuck the other clubs, survival of the fittest you're either good enough to stay with the times or you fuck off down under. Villas Boas wants Premiership "B" teams in the Championship. 28973

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    Post by Grenade Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:15 am

    Lux wrote:
    Grenade wrote:Wengers idea sounds quite interesting actually. But again the shit clubs in England will pull the big clubs down because they're managed badly and wouldn't be willing to invest in an u21 teams and all that stuff and they will whinge about wanting it to be easier etc.

    As 50cent would say, get rich or die trying. No mercy for the weak clubs, we should really try improve English football asap. We're quickly falling behind compared to other nations. Fuck the other clubs, survival of the fittest you're either good enough to stay with the times or you fuck off down under. Villas Boas wants Premiership "B" teams in the Championship. 28973

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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:19 am

    If they're so good he should just play the little foreign cunts rather than let them rot at Chelsea for 3 years before being sold onto to some obscure foreign team and only 1 Carling Cup appearance to his name.
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    Post by Vexxed Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:28 am

    I'm gonna get flamed for this but I do believe that Euro Football will eventually have to reform to be more like N.A sports leagues to survive in the future.

    Not saying I like it but I predict it will be an eventual necessity for the top flight.
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    Post by Danny Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:35 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:I would propose this:

    Allow B teams, but do not allow them to get promoted into League 2.
    Would be an excellent way to worsen English football. Good idea.

    The top reserve teams at no more than Blue Square Premier? Get real.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:29 pm

    Lux wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:I would propose this:

    Allow B teams, but do not allow them to get promoted into League 2.

    Do you actually mean League 2....or the 2nd league (Championship)?

    For them.....having a conference level 2nd team wouldn't really help them as the standard is too low. For us...them having a Championship team is too much.

    I do agree that the way the reserve leagues are now..it's not always great. Even Watford left the reserve league to organise a whole fixture list of better friendlies.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:42 pm

    Piss off.
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    Post by Weather130 Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:09 pm

    Strange idea since a reserve league already exists.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:14 pm

    Weather130 wrote:Strange idea since a reserve league already exists.

    Yes but it's shit
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    Post by LFC_Grunners Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:45 pm

    Is a stupid idea, I don't like how it is done in Spain. If this happens then the quality of the Championship will suffer immensely. Thankfully it will never happen.

    We just need an overhaul of the reserve league, Just set up a fully functioning 4 tier reserve league with promotion/relegation instead of the way it is done now. I think the whole North/South divide needs to be scrapped as it is a stupid idea.

    Also the reasons why teams drop out of the reserve league is pathetic. Here's a quote from Shrewsbury reserve manager as to why they pulled out “The gaffer thinks some of the pitches we’ve been playing on aren’t the best. Sometimes the games haven’t been at the right times for us, having to play at 7pm a long way from home"

    Also a Summer U21 league/tournament would be a good idea

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