ayvee1 wrote:The quality of team and status of club is the worst it's been for Celtic for a very, very long time IMO.
Laurencio wrote:James wrote:Their team would not survive in the Premiership. They have a bunch of lower Championship players apparently, and we all know no one is guaranteed to go up or stay up in that league.
If they invested heavily then I see no reason why they couldn't stay up. It's not like Celtic can't afford to invest £20-25M to stay up. Their turnover is £62M after all.
James wrote:Laurencio wrote:
If they invested heavily then I see no reason why they couldn't stay up. It's not like Celtic can't afford to invest £20-25M to stay up. Their turnover is £62M after all.
Obviously. But we are talking about current teams. There are plenty of other clubs that could spend more, but don't.
James wrote:ConorCelticFC wrote:
Hooper scored more than Andy Carroll when he was in the Championship in 09/10. And played less games. Surely the fact that he scored so many goals in a bad team is a sign of quality. Ledley was not for sale at all, he was considered their best player and Roma and Stoke tried to sign him. Commons was top scorer when we bought him in January.
How many League 1 teams could draw twice over two legs with the team top of Serie A? I don't get how a League 1 team would have the means to sign all these top Championship players who premiership clubs are interested in. Southampton, top of the Champinship, have a player proven not good enough for us starting every week!
First of all, have you heard of Darren Bent? This man scores shit loads of goals but have you noticed every team he has played in has done shit? Hooper is Bents shitter cousin.
Celtic use their past glory to buy these players, it isn't as if they are even buying good players. These are lower Championship talents and as has been proved in past seasons, League 1 players can cut it in the Championship.
And all you seem to do is talk about players ability. Have you ever thought your manager is shit? And can't actually get the best out of players, hence the reason they flop. I've said plenty of times, any decent manager would take a team in the SPL (outside of Celtic and Rangers) and crack the top 2 if given a couple of seasons.
Maybe if Celtic joined the English league and gave it a few years they'd improve and be on Southampton's level. But right now, Celtic and Rangers are on par with Sheffield United.
I think it's just OF fans that like to exaggerate their players. I have no illusions of Old Firm grandeur right now.Lu❣s Suarez wrote:I feel scots terribly overrate the players playing for the Old Firm...
James wrote:Lennon is a shit manager, no one with half a brain will argue that. Also, I didn't play ability doesn't matter... Just that under shit managers, players obviously look a lot worse. I can see you are a typical Brit with his "get in there, take his legs, get that ball up the pitch, get it in the box" which is fine, our opinions differ on how much of an influence a manager has... But you're wrong anyway, about every little thing you've mentioned.
Please don't bring you mates over here to cry about the truth, stick to your own forum for that.
Yours truly,
James.
Probably more likely.ayvee1 wrote:I think it's just OF fans that like to exaggerate their players. I have no illusions of Old Firm grandeur right now.Lu❣s Suarez wrote:I feel scots terribly overrate the players playing for the Old Firm...
Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Probably more likely.ayvee1 wrote:I think it's just OF fans that like to exaggerate their players. I have no illusions of Old Firm grandeur right now.
It is funny when you realize how poor the SPL has become. Next year their coefficiency will drop down by over 10 points. Championship level my ass.
ConorCelticFC wrote:Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Probably more likely.
It is funny when you realize how poor the SPL has become. Next year their coefficiency will drop down by over 10 points. Championship level my ass.
Next season the coefficient is better than this season. Two Champions League places.
Laurencio wrote:ConorCelticFC wrote:
Next season the coefficient is better than this season. Two Champions League places.
Whut. Why?
ConorCelticFC wrote:Laurencio wrote:
Whut. Why?
Rangers did well in Europe last year. They're not automatic though.
Laurencio wrote:ConorCelticFC wrote:
Rangers did well in Europe last year. They're not automatic though.
So let me get this straight. Your league, one that is on the verge of total and utter riddicule due to the fact that it's basically a cup competition with two teams. A league system that is considered possibly the worst balanced league system in the world. Is now going to have that gap between the two biggest clubs and the rest increased by giving them both champions league money each year.
Wonderful. Not that it's the SPL's fault, but that right there might just doom the league.
That's not happening though. Scotland are already dropping from 18th to 20th at the end of the season because all their teams are out and Poland (Laurencio wrote:ConorCelticFC wrote:
Rangers did well in Europe last year. They're not automatic though.
So let me get this straight. Your league, one that is on the verge of total and utter riddicule due to the fact that it's basically a cup competition with two teams. A league system that is considered possibly the worst balanced league system in the world. Is now going to have that gap between the two biggest clubs and the rest increased by giving them both champions league money each year.
Wonderful. Not that it's the SPL's fault, but that right there might just doom the league.
) will surpass them. Then afterwords their results from 07/08 will be deleted and they will drop far down into the late twenties.
I thought that next season will be their first in a bit where they have only 1.Lus Suarez wrote:
That's not happening though. Scotland are already dropping from 18th to 20th at the end of the season because all their teams are out and Poland (Laurencio wrote:
So let me get this straight. Your league, one that is on the verge of total and utter riddicule due to the fact that it's basically a cup competition with two teams. A league system that is considered possibly the worst balanced league system in the world. Is now going to have that gap between the two biggest clubs and the rest increased by giving them both champions league money each year.
Wonderful. Not that it's the SPL's fault, but that right there might just doom the league.
Also, didn't they always have two champions league spots?
LuThat's not happening though. Scotland are already dropping from 18th to 20th at the end of the season because all their teams are out and Poland (Laurencio wrote:
So let me get this straight. Your league, one that is on the verge of total and utter riddicule due to the fact that it's basically a cup competition with two teams. A league system that is considered possibly the worst balanced league system in the world. Is now going to have that gap between the two biggest clubs and the rest increased by giving them both champions league money each year.
Wonderful. Not that it's the SPL's fault, but that right there might just doom the league.
Also, didn't they always have two champions league spots?
It is getting poorer, even in ten years the standard has declined rapidly but the Old firm are probably Championship level, the rest would be a lot lower. I agree with what Sean said:Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Probably more likely.ayvee1 wrote:I think it's just OF fans that like to exaggerate their players. I have no illusions of Old Firm grandeur right now.
It is funny when you realize how poor the SPL has become. Next year their coefficiency will drop down by over 10 points. Championship level my ass.
Sean wrote:I think for a good lot of years we would be a yo-yo club between Championship and PL. The money from reaching the Premier League would do wonders for us though.
What is this your forumJames wrote:Lennon is a shit manager, no one with half a brain will argue that. Also, I didn't say ability doesn't matter... Just that under shit managers, players obviously look a lot worse. I can see you are a typical Brit with his "get in there, take his legs, get that ball up the pitch, get it in the box" which is fine, our opinions differ on how much of an influence a manager has... But you're wrong anyway, about every little thing you've mentioned.
Please don't bring you mates over here to cry about the truth, stick to your own forum for that.
Yours truly,
James.
ahlycotc wrote:http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117612
Found it.
