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The quality and attraction of Celtic
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Re: The quality and attraction of Celtic
Laurencio wrote:Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
Laurencio, you know anything about Mervan Celik bro?
Never heard of him.
I forgot you were from Norway, thought it was Sweden.
My bad.
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This thread has been amusing to see packs of Championship fans spam the thread with shitty little comments like
and still get destroyed.
Drake wrote:The SPL is so shit
and still get destroyed.
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- Post n°455
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The Maestro wrote:This thread has been amusing to see packs of Championship fans spam the thread with shitty little comments likeDrake wrote:The SPL is so shit
and still get destroyed.
I see what you did there
Drake-
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Forgot i was a championship fan
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Drake wrote:Forgot i was a championship fan
Yeh, league 1 as well soon. lol
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Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Drake wrote:Forgot i was a championship fan
Yeh, league 1 as well soon. lol
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- Post n°459
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Drake wrote:Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
Yeh, league 1 as well soon. lol
Blackburn are shit basically.
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- Post n°460
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lololololololololololo
Drake-
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Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Drake wrote:
Blackburn are shit basically.
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- Post n°462
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Drake wrote:Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
Blackburn are shit basically.
Truth hurts.
Drake-
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Well at least were not as bad as you.Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Drake wrote:
Truth hurts.
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- Post n°464
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Drake wrote:Well at least were not as bad as you.Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
Truth hurts.
Running away/hiding from the truth by lying doesn't help either bro.
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I'm not running or hiding from nothingJelavic9|RFC wrote:Drake wrote:Well at least were not as bad as you.
Running away/hiding from the truth by lying doesn't help either bro.
You threw away a 15 point lead, thats poor
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- Post n°466
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Drake wrote:I'm not running or hiding from nothingJelavic9|RFC wrote:
Running away/hiding from the truth by lying doesn't help either bro.
You threw away a 15 point lead, thats poor
Yes, celtic had injuries at the beginning of the season and now we have them. so?
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- Post n°467
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Drake wrote:The SPL is so shit
Come on now, if you can't take it, don't give it out.Drake wrote:Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
Blackburn are shit basically.
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- Post n°468
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We are doing well in Europe, we have two teams in the knockout stages. That is great for us. We will only improve as well.ConorCelticFC wrote:Lus Suarez wrote:Slask is the 4th best team in Poland. Lech, Wisla and Legia are significantly better.
Slask have a good thing going for them at the moment, they have a brand new stadium and a good manager and a good team who play as a unit. (Thus why they were fucked against Dundee when they played without Kazmierczak, Lukasiewicz and Voskamp, which were pretty essential players in the formation last season(Voskamp was a new signing but Slask had no other striker but him at the time), only Mila played and that was with having a fucked up ankle over the summer and being off form) The Ekstraklasa is competitive, any team can beat any team, the reason why Slask are top of the league is because they are consistent, however, history dictates that the team in first in January usually fails to win the title. We will have to wait and see what Slask do.
As for the Dundee game, it was honestly the worst I've seen from Slask all year.
Dundee winning our league? Legia Warszawa would pummel them 5-0.
I don't particularly care for this argument though. Our teams are doing well in Europe and they will continue to get better each year. I somewhat doubt Legia will beat Sporting Lisbon and then either Ajax or Man City, but if my team Wisla sort out it's shit, we got a good chance of getting into the quarters.
You're not doing well in Europe though. In fact I don't remember you ever doing well in Europe. Yes, Scottish teams have been disappoininting this season, but Celtic showed that they were a better side than Rennes, a top French side, and that they could compete with Udinese. When was the last time a Polish side did anything in the Champions League? Rangers, only last season beat the Turkish champions and drew with Man Utd and Valencia. They then knocked Sporting Lisbon out of the Europa, who you have just admitted are superior to your teams.
As for Legia beating United 5-0, I doubt it. When have you watched United to make this judgement, apart from when they played Slask and deserved a win? Slask are top of your league and I somehow doubt a new stadium would have a significant impact on that.
I repeat, we could have any player from the Polish league that we really wanted, unless a more attractive team also wanted them. Take Sandomierski for instance, who was gagging to come to us.
His agent: "I am still waiting for the clubs to reach an agreement. There is still a difference between them but I am sure those differences can be overcome. If they are overcome, I am ready to go to Glasgow with Grzegorsz this week." Sandomierski has indicated to friends in Poland that, given a choice between the pair, he would prefer to follow in the footsteps of Artur Boruc and Lukasz Zaluska and head to Glasgow's East End.
I find it amusing how you seem to be proud of the fact that Nottingham Forest have a 'Polish league reject.' We have Hooiveld, Murphy, O'Dea, Thompson all loaned to Championship clubs because they aren't good enough for us. Vaz Te who was released by Hibs last season (near bottom of the SPL) is now banging in the goals in the Championship. Juarez is also loaned out to a La Liga club because he failed to make an impact last year.
No one would move to Poland instead of Celtic. No one.
The last time Polish teams were doing well in Europe you probably weren't alive so meh. Mute point anyway as we are talking about today.
I don't think you are in any position to talk about what is going on in the Slask dressing room so there is no point arguing about that.
Legia are much better than Slask. Their first team is at the level of lower table Premier League sides. Dundee is like League 1.
I don't deny the SPL still has a better image than Polish League, and it is no surprise Sandomierski wanted to follow the footsteps of Artur Boruc. Things will start to change gradually though as SPL sides continue to fail time and time again in Europe while Polish clubs continue to gradually make themselves known in Europe. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Rangers & Celtic will forever be bigger clubs though.
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Maybe in the same sense in how Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Leeds United are big clubs today.Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Rangers & Celtic will forever be bigger clubs though.
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Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Maybe in the same sense in how Nottingham Forest and Leeds United are big clubs today.Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Rangers & Celtic will forever be bigger clubs though.
Yeh.
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Lus Suarez wrote:We are doing well in Europe, we have two teams in the knockout stages. That is great for us. We will only improve as well.ConorCelticFC wrote:
You're not doing well in Europe though. In fact I don't remember you ever doing well in Europe. Yes, Scottish teams have been disappoininting this season, but Celtic showed that they were a better side than Rennes, a top French side, and that they could compete with Udinese. When was the last time a Polish side did anything in the Champions League? Rangers, only last season beat the Turkish champions and drew with Man Utd and Valencia. They then knocked Sporting Lisbon out of the Europa, who you have just admitted are superior to your teams.
As for Legia beating United 5-0, I doubt it. When have you watched United to make this judgement, apart from when they played Slask and deserved a win? Slask are top of your league and I somehow doubt a new stadium would have a significant impact on that.
I repeat, we could have any player from the Polish league that we really wanted, unless a more attractive team also wanted them. Take Sandomierski for instance, who was gagging to come to us.
His agent: "I am still waiting for the clubs to reach an agreement. There is still a difference between them but I am sure those differences can be overcome. If they are overcome, I am ready to go to Glasgow with Grzegorsz this week." Sandomierski has indicated to friends in Poland that, given a choice between the pair, he would prefer to follow in the footsteps of Artur Boruc and Lukasz Zaluska and head to Glasgow's East End.
I find it amusing how you seem to be proud of the fact that Nottingham Forest have a 'Polish league reject.' We have Hooiveld, Murphy, O'Dea, Thompson all loaned to Championship clubs because they aren't good enough for us. Vaz Te who was released by Hibs last season (near bottom of the SPL) is now banging in the goals in the Championship. Juarez is also loaned out to a La Liga club because he failed to make an impact last year.
No one would move to Poland instead of Celtic. No one.
The last time Polish teams were doing well in Europe you probably weren't alive so meh. Mute point anyway as we are talking about today.
I don't think you are in any position to talk about what is going on in the Slask dressing room so there is no point arguing about that.
Legia are much better than Slask. Their first team is at the level of lower table Premier League sides. Dundee is like League 1.
I don't deny the SPL still has a better image than Polish League, and it is no surprise Sandomierski wanted to follow the footsteps of Artur Boruc. Things will start to change gradually though as SPL sides continue to fail time and time again in Europe while Polish clubs continue to gradually make themselves known in Europe. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Yes, and even today they're hardly setting the world alight. Rangers last season did more than I can ever remember a Polish side doing.
About Legia being premiership quality - well, I am not really in a position to question that having not seen them play. But considering the lack of money spent by Polish clubs, even by SPL standards, I find it hard to believe.
And I dispute this concept of our decline that you keep raising. Alright, so Celtic and the Scottish game are not in the healthiest state they have ever been in: but what about in the 90s when Celtic were finishing third and fourth? What about under Mogga a few seasons ago? We have without doubt improved as a team since then.
I don't have anything against Polish clubs or you, but I think you've been overly critical of the SPL and Celtic here, and I don't think you watch it (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Maybe in the same sense in how Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Leeds United are big clubs today.Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Rangers & Celtic will forever be bigger clubs though.
Maybe. However, we still have a higher quality team than them, have far more fans, a bigger stadium and still compete in Europe.
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Polska, we had one shit season in Europe because we have a new manager.
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Wisla had all sorts of managerial and injury troubles and we are still in Europe. (Though I guess that was more due to a miracle )Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Polska, we had one shit season in Europe because we have a new manager.
You are not significantly better than them if at all. You don't compete in Europe either as your record in the last 5 years has shown.ConorCelticFC wrote:Lus Suarez wrote:Maybe in the same sense in how Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Leeds United are big clubs today.
Maybe. However, we still have a higher quality team than them, have far more fans, a bigger stadium and still compete in Europe.
Yes, and even today they're hardly setting the world alight. Rangers last season did more than I can ever remember a Polish side doing.
What did Rangers do last season? Make it to the round of 16? Ok, I have faith Wisla can match it this season. Where are you or your city comrades this season though? What have you guys done the last several years?
That is mostly because Legia isn't buying players, oh no, they are promoting players from their new European class youth academy. They've only signed several players to fill in spots and other than Ljuboja and Kuciak they've mostly failed tbh.About Legia being premiership quality - well, I am not really in a position to question that having not seen them play. But considering the lack of money spent by Polish clubs, even by SPL standards, I find it hard to believe.
Legia are a really good team. Though I don't expect them to beat them, Sporting Lisbon vs Legia is going to be a good fixture.
Is that recent? SPL was a much better league back then. It was a much better and more respectful league only a decade ago.And I dispute this concept of our decline that you keep raising. Alright, so Celtic and the Scottish game are not in the healthiest state they have ever been in: but what about in the 90s when Celtic were finishing third and fourth? What about under Mogga a few seasons ago? We have without doubt improved as a team since then.
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Lus Suarez wrote:Wisla had all sorts of managerial and injury troubles and we are still in Europe. (Though I guess that was more due to a miracle )Jelavic9|RFC wrote:Polska, we had one shit season in Europe because we have a new manager.You are not significantly better than them if at all. You don't compete in Europe either as your record in the last 5 years has shown.ConorCelticFC wrote:
Maybe. However, we still have a higher quality team than them, have far more fans, a bigger stadium and still compete in Europe.
Yes, and even today they're hardly setting the world alight. Rangers last season did more than I can ever remember a Polish side doing.
What did Rangers do last season? Make it to the round of 16? Ok, I have faith Wisla can match it this season. Where are you or your city comrades this season though? What have you guys done the last several years?
That is mostly because Legia isn't buying players, oh no, they are promoting players from their new European class youth academy. They've only signed several players to fill in spots and other than Ljuboja and Kuciak they've mostly failed tbh.About Legia being premiership quality - well, I am not really in a position to question that having not seen them play. But considering the lack of money spent by Polish clubs, even by SPL standards, I find it hard to believe.
Legia are a really good team. Though I don't expect them to beat them, Sporting Lisbon vs Legia is going to be a good fixture.
Is that recent? SPL was a much better league back then. It was a much better and more respectful league only a decade ago.And I dispute this concept of our decline that you keep raising. Alright, so Celtic and the Scottish game are not in the healthiest state they have ever been in: but what about in the 90s when Celtic were finishing third and fourth? What about under Mogga a few seasons ago? We have without doubt improved as a team since then.
Rangers beat Sporting last season. They also beat the Turkish Champions and drew with Valencia and Man Utd. That's quite a lot. It's not about how far you get, it's about the quality of teams you play. Celtic faced better teams than Polish ones did and still managed to finish ahead of Rennes.
Also, if we don't compete in Europe how can you say Polish teams do? Celtic and Rangers have done far more in Europe recently than anyone from your country.
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I think there needs to be more mention of SPL clubs who look at Euro League as the big European competition who beat teams that look at Euro League as an unimportant consolation prize since they really want Champions league and will sacrifice Euro league to ensure domestic league success.
That being said, I don't have a problem with either Old Firm club, its just sad they work so hard to keep their league in the gutter
That being said, I don't have a problem with either Old Firm club, its just sad they work so hard to keep their league in the gutter
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Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:They have very little of either
And what success do you have? Sitting midtable? I've always seen Newcastle fans as the worst for hating on the SPL. Probably something to do with considering themselves a big club but never having won anything or no one caring about them outside Newcastle. Just jealousy really, it's quite sad.