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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:16 am

    Liverpool wrote:Do you think United will put out a strong squad against City?

    Hopefully not so it doesnt look as bad when we get thrashed.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:17 am

    Liverpool wrote:Do you think United will put out a strong squad against City?
    Well we did against you in the FA cup didn't we? It's obvious that we will.
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:17 am

    Liverpool wrote:Do you think United will put out a strong squad against City?

    yes, because its the FA cup, we always put strong teams against strong opponents in that tournament

    but may depend also on what matches are before and after it
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:18 am

    Newcastle, away, is on the Wednesday before. Then a week later is Bolton at home.
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:19 am

    yes, strong team then
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    Post by LiamB_14 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:19 am

    VDVSpurs11 wrote:We would take back Berbatov with open arms

    Thankyou my friend, Dimitar Berbatov is a sensational player, worthy of any football team.

    My belief is that United's team is not designed for Berbatov, it is designed with Rooney in mind. Everything is about pace, wing play and long passes. This is certainly not a design tailor made for Berbatov.

    If we designed the team for Berbatov, a midfield with quality, and wide players who switch positions and link up with small one touch passes, and players who consistently cross accurately and are not too greedy with the ball then you would see a completely different Dimitar Berbatov, he would be up their with Messi and Ronaldo for player of the year.

    I remember when Dimitar Berbatov played for you and performed this fantastic skill against us:

    And here is a sensational 9 minute film dedicated to the player himself

    He is simply a one of the kind footballer, you will not see a similar player for years to come, simply because they cannot match his ability. Watching Berbatov play regular first team for Tottenham now with the style they play and chances they create would be something to behold Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 914411


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    Post by Laurencio Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:20 am

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:Newcastle, away, is on the Wednesday before. Then a week later is Bolton at home.

    Newcastle away is a toughie. Might lose that one if we prioritze the FA cup...
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    Post by Andy Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:20 am

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    Liverpool wrote:Do you think United will put out a strong squad against City?

    Hopefully not so it doesnt look as bad when we get thrashed.

    Neutral
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    Post by Mason Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:22 am

    League or FA Cup?
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:22 am

    I don't see us prioritising the FA Cup over a league game as hard as Newcastle away.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:23 am

    LiamB_14 wrote:
    VDVSpurs11 wrote:We would take back Berbatov with open arms

    Thankyou my friend, Dimitar Berbatov is a sensational player, worthy of any football team.

    My belief is that United's team is not designed for Berbatov, it is designed with Rooney in mind. Everything is about pace, wing play and long passes. This is certainly not a design tailor made for Berbatov.

    If we designed the team for Berbatov, a midfield with quality, and wide players who switch positions and link up with small one touch passes, and players who consistently cross accurately and are not too greedy with the ball then you would see a completely different Dimitar Berbatov, he would be up their with Messi and Ronaldo for player of the year.

    I remember when Dimitar Berbatov played for you and performed this fantastic skill against us:

    And here is a sensational 9 minute film dedicated to the player himself

    He is simply a one of the kind footballer, you will not see a similar player for years to come, simply because they cannot match his ability. Watching Berbatov play regular first team for Tottenham now with the style they play and chances they create would be something to behold Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 914411

    You make Berbatov sound like a god, it's admirable how you manage to do that despite him not playing all that well lately.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:28 am

    Kuled wrote:He picked the same players that did the job away from home at Leeds and Aldershot, we just didn't play well, fucking hell Neutral
    I ran across the road without looking once, when I was 13. I didn't get hit by a car, but I still realised it was a fucking risky thing to do, so I stopped doing it.
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:The players he selected should have beaten Palace, they're good enough to. The fact is most of them played their worse games of the season, all at the same time.

    Yes, some of his selections are poor, but they'll surprise you with a win most the time. Some of his signings might be awful - Bebe, Obertan, Kleberson etc... Then when he gets it spot on with Vidic, Evra, Ronaldo, Keane.. No one brings that up, or gives him the credit for getting them, just says "yea, but he's brought shit before".

    Maybe it's time he realised that throwing an XI together who've never played with each other is risky business, and is disrespectful to your opponents, particularly when it is such a big game for them.

    Vidic, Ronaldo and Evra were good signings, although it's worth noting that Ronaldo was rated as one of the best young players in Europe, we had to fight off interest from Liverpool and Arsenal. Keane was a British transfer record so it's no surprise that he turned out to be pretty good. In any case, no-one is saying he made shite signings all the time, what I am saying is that he has made a lot of shite signings and more importantly, omissions, in the last few years.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:34 am

    He's made a lot of bad signings, I agree. But he's also made a lot of great signings.
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    Post by LiamB_14 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:37 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    LiamB_14 wrote:

    Thankyou my friend, Dimitar Berbatov is a sensational player, worthy of any football team.

    My belief is that United's team is not designed for Berbatov, it is designed with Rooney in mind. Everything is about pace, wing play and long passes. This is certainly not a design tailor made for Berbatov.

    If we designed the team for Berbatov, a midfield with quality, and wide players who switch positions and link up with small one touch passes, and players who consistently cross accurately and are not too greedy with the ball then you would see a completely different Dimitar Berbatov, he would be up their with Messi and Ronaldo for player of the year.

    I remember when Dimitar Berbatov played for you and performed this fantastic skill against us:

    And here is a sensational 9 minute film dedicated to the player himself

    He is simply a one of the kind footballer, you will not see a similar player for years to come, simply because they cannot match his ability. Watching Berbatov play regular first team for Tottenham now with the style they play and chances they create would be something to behold Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 914411

    You make Berbatov sound like a god, it's admirable how you manage to do that despite him not playing all that well lately.

    My friend, please name a bad Dimitar Berbatov performance this season scratch
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:38 am

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:He's made a lot of bad signings, I agree. But he's also made a lot of great signings.

    When?
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:41 am

    LiamB_14 wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    You make Berbatov sound like a god, it's admirable how you manage to do that despite him not playing all that well lately.

    My friend, please name a bad Dimitar Berbatov performance this season scratch

    *cough* Crystal Palace *cough*
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:49 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:He's made a lot of bad signings, I agree. But he's also made a lot of great signings.

    When?

    VDS, Vidic, Evra, Cantona, Solskjaer, Keane, Bruce, Schmeichel, Stam, RVN, Rio, Irwin, Cole, Yorke, Ronaldo, Nani..

    You know as much as I do he's signed some great players for us.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:51 am

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    When?

    VDS, Vidic, Evra, Cantona, Solskjaer, Keane, Bruce, Schmeichel, Stam, RVN, Rio, Irwin, Cole, Yorke, Ronaldo, Nani..

    You know as much as I do he's signed some great players for us.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:52 am

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    When?

    VDS, Vidic, Evra, Cantona, Solskjaer, Keane, Bruce, Schmeichel, Stam, RVN, Rio, Irwin, Cole, Yorke, Ronaldo, Nani..

    You know as much as I do he's signed some great players for us.

    So the last one was in 2007 then, interesting.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:53 am

    Chicharito isn't bad either.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:54 am

    Phil Jones not worthy
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    Post by Barton Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:54 am

    Could've made a few great signings after Ronaldo's sale to Real Madrid. Brought in Owen, Valencia and Obertan as replacements. Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 3925848005
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    Post by LiamB_14 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:57 am

    Laurencio wrote:
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    My friend, please name a bad Dimitar Berbatov performance this season scratch

    *cough* Crystal Palace *cough*

    A good performance until his ankle injury, from which he bravely carried on until half time. You cannot judge Dimitar Berbatov to have had a poor performance when the the whole team around him plays bad.

    Maybe if Berbatov played the second half we wouldn't have lost, and would have controllerd and dominated the match Very Happy


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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:57 am

    Chicharito is a hindrance to our general play.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:59 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:

    VDS, Vidic, Evra, Cantona, Solskjaer, Keane, Bruce, Schmeichel, Stam, RVN, Rio, Irwin, Cole, Yorke, Ronaldo, Nani..

    You know as much as I do he's signed some great players for us.

    So the last one was in 2007 then, interesting.

    Yes, sadly. But I still think he's the right man to manage us though.

    Kuled wrote:Chicharito isn't bad either.

    Wasn't sure whether to add him or not. Decided not to as he's only been here a season.

    Laurencio wrote:Phil Jones not worthy

    3 of our new signings this year have potential to be world class - Smalling, Jones and De Gea.

    JMB_94 wrote:Could've made a few great signings after Ronaldo's sale to Real Madrid. Brought in Owen, Valencia and Obertan as replacements. Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 3925848005

    I have concerns to where that money really went but I'll leave that for another day.
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:59 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Kuled wrote:He picked the same players that did the job away from home at Leeds and Aldershot, we just didn't play well, fucking hell Neutral
    I ran across the road without looking once, when I was 13. I didn't get hit by a car, but I still realised it was a fucking risky thing to do, so I stopped doing it.
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:The players he selected should have beaten Palace, they're good enough to. The fact is most of them played their worse games of the season, all at the same time.

    Yes, some of his selections are poor, but they'll surprise you with a win most the time. Some of his signings might be awful - Bebe, Obertan, Kleberson etc... Then when he gets it spot on with Vidic, Evra, Ronaldo, Keane.. No one brings that up, or gives him the credit for getting them, just says "yea, but he's brought shit before".

    Maybe it's time he realised that throwing an XI together who've never played with each other is risky business, and is disrespectful to your opponents, particularly when it is such a big game for them.

    Vidic, Ronaldo and Evra were good signings, although it's worth noting that Ronaldo was rated as one of the best young players in Europe, we had to fight off interest from Liverpool and Arsenal. Keane was a British transfer record so it's no surprise that he turned out to be pretty good. In any case, no-one is saying he made shite signings all the time, what I am saying is that he has made a lot of shite signings and more importantly, omissions, in the last few years.

    You weren't fighting off interest from us, we rejected him. Stupidly.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:00 am

    Can you imagine Ronaldo at Liverpool? ..Urgh Neutral
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:02 am

    Kuled wrote:Can you imagine Ronaldo at Liverpool? ..Urgh Neutral
    He would have had all the talent sucked out of him, been forced to play second fiddle to the likes of Gerrard.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:03 am

    JMB_94 wrote:Could've made a few great signings after Ronaldo's sale to Real Madrid. Brought in Owen, Valencia and Obertan as replacements. Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 33 3925848005

    David De Gea £18.9M
    Ashley Young £17M
    Phil Jones £17M
    Antonio Valencia £16M
    Chris Smalling £10M
    Bebe £7.4M
    Javier Hernandez £6M
    Lindegaard £3.5M
    Obertan £3M
    Diouf £2M
    Marnick Vermijl £300k
    Paul Pogba (nominal)
    Michael Owen (Free)

    Spent: £101M
    Wasted: £17M
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