Enrique by a fucking country mile 
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Another Comparison Thread
Poll
Andre Santos or Jose Enrique - Better overall player
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[40%]
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Total Votes: 45
VivaRonaldoLAD-
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Paulinho-
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Chris wrote:Reina is the best keeper in the league.
Enrique is the best left back in the league.
Agger is the best central defender.
Kelly is the best right back.
Lucas the best DM.
Gerrard the best CM.
Downing the best winger.
Suarez the best striker.
Liverpool on the same points as Arsenal (19) who are having a shocker of a season.
Carlos Jenkinson-
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Didn't ask who was the better left back, asked who was the better player
Peoples comprehension skills here
Peoples comprehension skills here
HIBBIES_07-
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Still Enrique by quite a bit.
Carlos Jenkinson-
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HIBBIES_07 wrote:Still Enrique by quite a bit.
Elaborate then
HIBBIES_07-
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Well you said we include every aspect of their game, apart from technically and attacking wise Enrique is a much better player. He is a better defender, which is the main thing when comparing defenders obviously, he is quicker, stronger, actually quite good going forward despite not being as good as Santos, more premier league experience, more consistent and younger.Fonseca wrote:HIBBIES_07 wrote:Still Enrique by quite a bit.
Elaborate then
The main thing is him being a better defender though. Arsenal were done many times with Clichy in that defense last season and Santos is no improvement at all, he is actually worse IMO. Wenger should have signed Enrique.
Mal-
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Scott wrote:Chris wrote:Reina is the best keeper in the league.
Enrique is the best left back in the league.
Agger is the best central defender.
Kelly is the best right back.
Lucas the best DM.
Gerrard the best CM.
Downing the best winger.
Suarez the best striker.
Liverpool on the same points as Arsenal (19) who are having a shocker of a season.
Only the bolded are correct.
Ashley Cole is the best left back in the league and Joe Hart is the best goalkeeper.
Emma-
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Mal wrote:Scott wrote:
Only the bolded are correct.
Ashley Cole is the best left back in the league and Joe Hart is the best goalkeeper.
I would say Cech is the best keeper On topic, Enrique is far better than Andre Santos, Santos looked shattered in the first 45 minutes of the Chelsea game
Mal-
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I hope people know, Fonseca hates Andre Santos. He's the one who started calling him Diablo.
His question is who is a better all round footballer, not defender. Enrique is obviously the better defender.
His question is who is a better all round footballer, not defender. Enrique is obviously the better defender.
Childish Logic-
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Fonseca....
what the hell is this.
what the hell is this.
Grenade-
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Enrique is better than Santos at almost every single footballing ability...
Childish Logic-
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Mal wrote:I hope people know, Fonseca hates Andre Santos. He's the one who started calling him Diablo.
His question is who is a better all round footballer, not defender. Enrique is obviously the better defender.
Okay lets rate them as footballers.
Both are fullbacks. Key attributes as defenders are always to defend and to go forward and help with the attack occasionally. Enrique is miles ahead of Santos as a defender and Enrique has shown that while he isn't a brilliant attacker he can link up quite well.
Enrique>>>santos.
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Santos's technique is better than any of the English players that played against Spain and definitely better than Enrique's technique.
This is Fonseca who started this thread, the man who came up with the name Diablo Santos.
He isn't bias.
This is Fonseca who started this thread, the man who came up with the name Diablo Santos.
He isn't bias.
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Chris wrote:Reina is the best keeper in the league.
Enrique is the best left back in the league.
Agger is the best central defender.
Kelly is the best right back.
Lucas the best DM.
Gerrard the best CM.
Downing the best winger.
Suarez the best striker.
Liverpool on the same points as Arsenal (19) who are having a shocker of a season.
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Oh, as a footballer you say? Well then, that makes a hell of a difference.
Paulinho-
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I quite enjoy Andre Santos' goalscoring exploits. Do you guys enjoy Enrique's?
ah wait nevermind.
I kid, I kid.
Santos isn't a defender anyway, somewhat unfortunately lol
ah wait nevermind.
I kid, I kid.
Santos isn't a defender anyway, somewhat unfortunately lol
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Chris wrote:Reina is the best keeper in the league.
Enrique is the best left back in the league.
Agger is the best central defender.
Kelly is the best right back.
Lucas the best DM.
Gerrard the best CM.
Downing the best winger.
Suarez the best striker.
Liverpool on the same points as Arsenal (19) who are having a shocker of a season.
Carlos Jenkinson-
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HIBBIES_07 wrote:Well you said we include every aspect of their game, apart from technically and attacking wise Enrique is a much better player. He is a better defender, which is the main thing when comparing defenders obviously, he is quicker, stronger, actually quite good going forward despite not being as good as Santos, more premier league experience, more consistent and younger.Fonseca wrote:
Elaborate then
The main thing is him being a better defender though. Arsenal were done many times with Clichy in that defense last season and Santos is no improvement at all, he is actually worse IMO. Wenger should have signed Enrique.
What kind of attributes are those? Better premier league experience? really? Is that how low someone has to stoop to find attributes he has over Santos? He's taller also... why don't you say that
It's funny really, you're acting like this isn't a technique based game in which Santos wins easily. Beats him in every attacking aspect and Enrique beats him at a limited defending aspect, as a footballer Santos wins easily
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VivaRonaldo wrote:Enrique by a fucking country mile
a very long country mile.
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Fonseca wrote:HIBBIES_07 wrote: Well you said we include every aspect of their game, apart from technically and attacking wise Enrique is a much better player. He is a better defender, which is the main thing when comparing defenders obviously, he is quicker, stronger, actually quite good going forward despite not being as good as Santos, more premier league experience, more consistent and younger.
The main thing is him being a better defender though. Arsenal were done many times with Clichy in that defense last season and Santos is no improvement at all, he is actually worse IMO. Wenger should have signed Enrique.
What kind of attributes are those? Better premier league experience? really? Is that how low someone has to stoop to find attributes he has over Santos? He's taller also... why don't you say that
It's funny really, you're acting like this isn't a technique based game in which Santos wins easily. Beats him in every attacking aspect and Enrique beats him at a limited defending aspect, as a footballer Santos wins easily
Premier league experience is actually quite an important attribute for a premier league player IMO. I was going to mention that he was taller but I wasn't sure
I never denied Santos has better technique, he does, much better technique, but you need a lot more than technique to be a good footballer. If you are basing this purely on what they can do attacking wise with the ball then Santos obviously wins but as I said you need 1m other things to be a good player.
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Premier League experience is an important stat?
Absolute bollocks.
Absolute bollocks.
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Do you not think so?? I also didn't really say it was an important stat, just something I thought should be considered when comparing two players.Steadman wrote:Premier League experience is an important stat?
Absolute bollocks.
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No I don't. You did say 'actually quite an important attribute' so that implied it. It should never be considered when comparing players abilities, some of the best players in the world have no Premier League experience but their ability on the pitch, and not what country they play in, is what you should base it on if you're going to compare two footballers.HIBBIES_07 wrote:Do you not think so?? I also didn't really say it was an important stat, just something I thought should be considered when comparing two players.Steadman wrote:Premier League experience is an important stat?
Absolute bollocks.
The whole Premier League experience = they're a good signing for Premier League clubs is a total myth.
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I agree. You obviously do not use it when comparing players ability but when comparing everything I consider these things.Steadman wrote:No I don't. You did say 'actually quite an important attribute' so that implied it. It should never be considered when comparing players abilities, some of the best players in the world have no Premier League experience but their ability on the pitch, and not what country they play in, is what you should base it on if you're going to compare two footballers.HIBBIES_07 wrote:Do you not think so?? I also didn't really say it was an important stat, just something I thought should be considered when comparing two players.
The whole Premier League experience = they're a good signing for Premier League clubs is a total myth.
I was only using it to compare two premier league players, not Messi or whatever.
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Definitely Enrique for me.
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Enrique by far.
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Doesn't matter though, I could easily say Santos has more international experience, which would be a retarded argument.HIBBIES_07 wrote:I agree. You obviously do not use it when comparing players ability but when comparing everything I consider these things.Steadman wrote:
No I don't. You did say 'actually quite an important attribute' so that implied it. It should never be considered when comparing players abilities, some of the best players in the world have no Premier League experience but their ability on the pitch, and not what country they play in, is what you should base it on if you're going to compare two footballers.
The whole Premier League experience = they're a good signing for Premier League clubs is a total myth.
I was only using it to compare two premier league players, not Messi or whatever.
Bent has more Premier League experience than Aguero, both are Premier League players, yet no one would look at both players and play the PL experience card in favour of Bent. Leave the league they play in out of it.
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Obviously ability is much more important but I still think experience is a factor, especially for a defender.Steadman wrote:Doesn't matter though, I could easily say Santos has more international experience, which would be a retarded argument.HIBBIES_07 wrote:I agree. You obviously do not use it when comparing players ability but when comparing everything I consider these things.
I was only using it to compare two premier league players, not Messi or whatever.
Bent has more Premier League experience than Aguero, both are Premier League players, yet no one would look at both players and play the PL experience card in favour of Bent. Leave the league they play in out of it.
If you were comparing Bent and Aguero you could easily say that Bent is more experienced, which he is. Obviously Aguero shits on him in every other way though
Think of when a new player joins the premier league, it can often take them a while to settle because its new and they have no experience of it, whereas if they have played in it for 3/4 years then this isn't the case.
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The Bat-Man wrote:Santos's technique is better than any of the English players that played against Spain and definitely better than Enrique's technique.
This is Fonseca who started this thread, the man who came up with the name Diablo Santos.
He isn't bias.
that and santos's attacking ability is better than Enrique's but Enrique in the end is still far better at what they are meant to do.
Enrique is star at the back. Santos is a failure at the back, If he plays you have to worry about defence.
Eternal Witcher wrote:Chris wrote:Reina is the best keeper in the league.
Enrique is the best left back in the league.
Agger is the best central defender.
Kelly is the best right back.
Lucas the best DM.
Gerrard the best CM.
Downing the best winger.
Suarez the best striker.
Liverpool on the same points as Arsenal (19) who are having a shocker of a season.
Typical chris. Doesn't agree with liverpool fans, Shouts they are deluded.
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Santos is obviously much better at attacking than Enrique. But Enrique better defensively, But Liverpool fans keep saying "Well they are both defenders, therefore the defender than is dominant in more defense oriented attributes is clearly better." But Arsenal fans keep on repeating "Well Santos isn't even a defender, therefore his defending skills don't play a part in the comparison." Why the hell are we even comparing them then if you are considering Santos as a winger and Enrique as a defender. Lets go make a Nani compared to Leighton Baines thread , Downing compared to Ashley Cole thread and an Aaron Lennon compared to Micah Richards thread.
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