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2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
Sheppy-
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I thought Oman was pretty sound?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-obeidallah/a-girl-named-facebook_b_829419.html
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Anderson=Class wrote:I thought Oman was pretty sound?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/2010-2011_Middle_East_and_North_Africa_protests.svg/600px-2010-2011_Middle_East_and_North_Africa_protests.svg.png
Here is the full list of countries experiencing protests (big and small)...
Tunisia
Algeria
Palestine
Libya
Jordan
Mauritania
Sudan
Oman
Yemen
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Syria
Djibouti
Morocco
Iraq
Somalia
Bahrain
Iran
Kuwait
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If Zimabwe protest, that'll turn out bloody.
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Zenga Zenga!
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http://dotsub.com/view/75c6ac59-1c66-4695-bc93-0c00a7f5729e
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Democracy = New World Order (One global government)
Is there actually any evidence that Gadafi actually bombed his own people?
Is there actually any evidence that Gadafi actually bombed his own people?
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AnfieldG8 wrote:Democracy = New World Order (One global government)
Is there actually any evidence that Gadafi actually bombed his own people?
So you think this is one whole conspiracy theory to form a global government?
And to answer your question, several air force pilots either flew out of the country or parachuted out of the plane while on missions to bomb the cities.
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by menalawyerguy Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:03 pm
AnfieldG8 wrote:Democracy = New World Order (One global government)
Is there actually any evidence that Gadafi actually bombed his own people?
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by menalawyerguy Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:07 pm
Anderson=Class wrote:I thought Oman was pretty sound?
It is. What's happening in Oman is different. That's not a call for regime change. In fact, even the anti-government protesters profess their loyalty to the Sultan. They just want corruption dealt with at the ministerial level. However, if they make the same mistake Bahrain made and use violence to deal with protests, it could transform into a regime change movement.
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I love a good conspiracy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtXt9yyCLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtXt9yyCLo
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by menalawyerguy Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:32 am
Are you one of those Alex Jones freaks who thinks everything is controlled and organized by a small group, possibly the Illuminati?
Anyway, I read that book, Economic Hitmen. It raises some interesting and thought-provoking points. But it also has its share of socialist/quasi-communist gibberish in it as well. You gotta take it with a grain of salt.
Anyway, I read that book, Economic Hitmen. It raises some interesting and thought-provoking points. But it also has its share of socialist/quasi-communist gibberish in it as well. You gotta take it with a grain of salt.
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menalawyerguy wrote:Are you one of those Alex Jones freaks who thinks everything is controlled and organized by a small group, possibly the Illuminati?
Anyway, I read that book, Economic Hitmen. It raises some interesting and thought-provoking points. But it also has its share of socialist/quasi-communist gibberish in it as well. You gotta take it with a grain of salt.
I'm like you, it's interesting and gets you thinking but it does sound a bit too far fetched. Doesn't really matter anyways, we're never going to know the truth about things
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Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
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The Egyptian PM, Ahmed Shafiq, that was assigned by Mubarak during the revolution officially resigned from his post yesterday (Thursday morning). He was on a TV talk show with opposition on Wednesday night and got grilled. He has been facing tremendous pressure from protesters for weeks now, especially after defending the police's actions over the weeks. Mass protests were also planned this Friday to pressure Shafiq to step down. The planned gathering will now be a celebration. The Supreme Military Council appointed former transportation minister, Essam Sharaf. He resigned several years ago after criticizing Mubarak and the government's responsibility for train crashes. The announcement was first announced through the Supreme Military Council's Facebook page. The new PM has been given the duty of reshuffling the Cabinet to quicken the transition to a civil government.
Former President, Hosni Mubarak, has been summoned to a hearing in court in Cairo. The case will be held next week. If found guilty, the Prosecutor General said he would face a prison sentence.
The new PM has been given the duty of reshuffling the Cabinet to quicken the transition to a civil government.Former President, Hosni Mubarak, has been summoned to a hearing in court in Cairo. The case will be held next week. If found guilty, the Prosecutor General said he would face a prison sentence.
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by Childish Logic Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:00 pm
ahlycotc wrote:Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
i want to know what is wrong with him.
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That is great news if Mubarek is found guilty, all his stolen money is given back to the state and the people, and he thrown in Jail. That would mean alot for Venezuelans, maybe even push a revolution here.
(Though I gotta leave this country before then.
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(Though I gotta leave this country before then.
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polska. wrote:That is great news if Mubarek is found guilty, all his stolen money is given back to the state and the people, and he thrown in Jail. That would mean alot for Venezuelans, maybe even push a revolution here.
(Though I gotta leave this country before then.
Go to Canada.
Also, is Chavez trying to win a Nobel Peace prize. His plan to talk Gaddafi out of it will fail I think.
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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/03/03/exp.ac.kth.ibrahim.debunked.cnn?hpt=T2
CNN's Anderson Cooper debunks Gaddafi's claims. Not that they were any credible anyways, but it's nice to see it get debunked by facts.
CNN's Anderson Cooper debunks Gaddafi's claims. Not that they were any credible anyways, but it's nice to see it get debunked by facts.
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did this cunt leave yet?
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Kuled wrote:did this cunt leave yet?
No. He won't leave until he dies. He even said several times that he will stay as leader until he dies and fight to the last man, woman, and bullet.
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by Mustangt125 Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:10 am
ahlycotc wrote:Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
Who would enforce a no fly zone? Only a few nations in the world have the ability to effectively enforce a no fly zone, and they are all countries that Arabs do not like.
The only way there can be a no fly zone over Libya enforced is if there is a military presence/strike from the US, some Europeans, or the UN (They don't do shit).
It could only be enforced if we strike their jets preemptively. And I think I can safely assume you guys don't want a US carrier posting up just off Arabic shores.
I hope we dont get involved in Libya at all. Then after all the bloodshed, slaughter, genocide, bombing of innocent civilians, etc that will inevitably go on in Libya, the whole world will cry and scream and ask "Where was the US? Why didn't they help us?"
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Mustangt125 wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
Who would enforce a no fly zone? Only a few nations in the world have the ability to effectively enforce a no fly zone, and they are all countries that Arabs do not like.
The only way there can be a no fly zone over Libya enforced is if there is a military presence/strike from the US, some Europeans, or the UN (They don't do shit).
It could only be enforced if we strike their jets preemptively. And I think I can safely assume you guys don't want a US carrier posting up just off Arabic shores.
I hope we dont get involved in Libya at all. Then after all the bloodshed, slaughter, genocide, bombing of innocent civilians, etc that will inevitably go on in Libya, the whole world will cry and scream and ask "Where was the US? Why didn't they help us?"
I don't care who enforces the fly zone, as long as it's under a unified organization/coalition (i.e. UN, Arab League, African Union, NATO, etc.). That way no one country can bear responsibility. Now considering that only about two cities are under Gaddafi's control as of now, the difficulty and resources to enforce a no-fly zone won't be as difficult.
Contrary to your perceptions, Arabs (especially Libyans) are not against international interference as long as it doesn't involve sending ground troops. Libyans have been calling for a no-fly zone for weeks. And your comment about a US carrier posting up just off Arab shores is ironic because there are already US carriers off Arab shores. In fact, US carriers that were off the shore of Somalia turned back towards Libya the past few days.
The other option to speed up this crisis and the removal of Gaddafi is by arming the rebellion. This might not be the best option though because of what may happen after the job is done and their inexperience.
This isn't about the US or them policing the world. It's an obligation of the world community to interfere. Gaddafi is committing war crimes against his own people. If Germans had rose against Hitler and assuming that he didn't invade other nations, would you say let them deal with it? Why is this significantly different?
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Say what you want about Gadhafi, but you can't deny he is one fly motherfucker.
Great hair.
Great hair.
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Re: 2011 Africa & Middle East Protests/Revolutions
by Mustangt125 Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:43 am
ahlycotc wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
Who would enforce a no fly zone? Only a few nations in the world have the ability to effectively enforce a no fly zone, and they are all countries that Arabs do not like.
The only way there can be a no fly zone over Libya enforced is if there is a military presence/strike from the US, some Europeans, or the UN (They don't do shit).
It could only be enforced if we strike their jets preemptively. And I think I can safely assume you guys don't want a US carrier posting up just off Arabic shores.
I hope we dont get involved in Libya at all. Then after all the bloodshed, slaughter, genocide, bombing of innocent civilians, etc that will inevitably go on in Libya, the whole world will cry and scream and ask "Where was the US? Why didn't they help us?"
I don't care who enforces the fly zone, as long as it's under a unified organization/coalition (i.e. UN, Arab League, African Union, NATO, etc.). That way no one country can bear responsibility. Now considering that only about two cities are under Gaddafi's control as of now, the difficulty and resources to enforce a no-fly zone won't be as difficult.
Contrary to your perceptions, Arabs (especially Libyans) are not against international interference as long as it doesn't involve sending ground troops. Libyans have been calling for a no-fly zone for weeks. And your comment about a US carrier posting up just off Arab shores is ironic because there are already US carriers off Arab shores. In fact, US carriers that were off the shore of Somalia turned back towards Libya the past few days.
The other option to speed up this crisis and the removal of Gaddafi is by arming the rebellion. This might not be the best option though because of what may happen after the job is done and their inexperience.
This isn't about the US or them policing the world. It's an obligation of the world community to interfere. Gaddafi is committing war crimes against his own people. If Germans had rose against Hitler and assuming that he didn't invade other nations, would you say let them deal with it? Why is this significantly different?
Obligation because of war crimes? Saddam slaughtered Iraqis for sport and nobody says shit about us removing him....not that I am glad we are still there.
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I was talking to my Algerian work mate who was just over there for a few months and when I asked him about the shit going on he didn't have a clue, and denied anything would happen in Algeria (not that I deny that)....but he drew up some crummy map of Africa where Libya was west of Morocco and tried to prove that it takes longer to get to Libya from Algeria than it does to get to England 
I'm assuming he was just confused.
I'm assuming he was just confused.
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Mustangt125 wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Libya bombs anti-Gaddafi controlled cities in the East.
They should have a no-fly zone in Libya.
Who would enforce a no fly zone? Only a few nations in the world have the ability to effectively enforce a no fly zone, and they are all countries that Arabs do not like.
The only way there can be a no fly zone over Libya enforced is if there is a military presence/strike from the US, some Europeans, or the UN (They don't do shit).
It could only be enforced if we strike their jets preemptively. And I think I can safely assume you guys don't want a US carrier posting up just off Arabic shores.
I hope we dont get involved in Libya at all. Then after all the bloodshed, slaughter, genocide, bombing of innocent civilians, etc that will inevitably go on in Libya, the whole world will cry and scream and ask "Where was the US? Why didn't they help us?"
I don't care who enforces the fly zone, as long as it's under a unified organization/coalition (i.e. UN, Arab League, African Union, NATO, etc.). That way no one country can bear responsibility. Now considering that only about two cities are under Gaddafi's control as of now, the difficulty and resources to enforce a no-fly zone won't be as difficult.
Contrary to your perceptions, Arabs (especially Libyans) are not against international interference as long as it doesn't involve sending ground troops. Libyans have been calling for a no-fly zone for weeks. And your comment about a US carrier posting up just off Arab shores is ironic because there are already US carriers off Arab shores. In fact, US carriers that were off the shore of Somalia turned back towards Libya the past few days.
The other option to speed up this crisis and the removal of Gaddafi is by arming the rebellion. This might not be the best option though because of what may happen after the job is done and their inexperience.
This isn't about the US or them policing the world. It's an obligation of the world community to interfere. Gaddafi is committing war crimes against his own people. If Germans had rose against Hitler and assuming that he didn't invade other nations, would you say let them deal with it? Why is this significantly different?
Obligation because of war crimes? Saddam slaughtered Iraqis for sport and nobody says shit about us removing him....not that I am glad we are still there.
It's the way the US did it, not why they did it. Even the why part is questionable. Was it for 9/11, business, etc.? It would probably be best if the Arab League did the actual operations.
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Big news from Egypt over the weekend...
4 March 2011
Protesters stormed a SSI building and were attacked by the SSI officers from inside the building. Eventually, the protesters claimed the ground floor and the officers retreated to the upper levels before the Army intervened.
5 March 2011
Several SSI buildings were raided across Egypt by protesters, including the headquarters in Alexandria and Cairo. Protesters state they raided in the buildings to secure documents they believed to show various crimes committed by the SSI against the people of Egypt during Mubarak's rule. Some documents were found burned or shredded before the protesters could get to it. Some documents were saved and protesters found files for basically everyone in the country. Some protesters were shocked to find files of their own with their information and photos. The SSI is the the Egyptian secret police organization. It's equivalent to Hitler's Gestapo.
6 March 2011
New PM, Essam Sharaf, appointed new ministers for the foreign-affairs and interior portfolios in a further sign that ousted president Hosni Mubarak's old guard are being removed from the cabinet. Essam Sharaf named Nabil Elaraby, a former judge with the Hague-based International Court of Justice, and Mansour el-Essawy for the crucial positions on Sunday, according to a post on the Facebook page of the prime minister's office. Sharaf also named Mohammed al-Guindy, a former attorney general, as minister of justice to replace Mamdouh Marie, who has been widely accused of corruption.
The army has shot in the air to disperse a 1,000-strong crowd attempting to storm the Ministry of Interior's state security building in Cairo, multiple eyewitnesses report. The General Prosecutor has ordered the building sealed pending investigation and the military does not want protesters to enter the building.
Several reports of plain-clothed police and gangs found attacking protesters in the streets. There is even reports of military police attacking and running after protesters.
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This is a huge achievement. The second biggest thing since toppling Mubarak. The SSI is a hated organization and if it's not removed or reformed, the revolution would not be successful. And with all these leaked documents, it could help in putting the old corrupt regime on trial.
4 March 2011
Protesters stormed a SSI building and were attacked by the SSI officers from inside the building. Eventually, the protesters claimed the ground floor and the officers retreated to the upper levels before the Army intervened.
5 March 2011
Several SSI buildings were raided across Egypt by protesters, including the headquarters in Alexandria and Cairo. Protesters state they raided in the buildings to secure documents they believed to show various crimes committed by the SSI against the people of Egypt during Mubarak's rule. Some documents were found burned or shredded before the protesters could get to it. Some documents were saved and protesters found files for basically everyone in the country. Some protesters were shocked to find files of their own with their information and photos. The SSI is the the Egyptian secret police organization. It's equivalent to Hitler's Gestapo.
6 March 2011
New PM, Essam Sharaf, appointed new ministers for the foreign-affairs and interior portfolios in a further sign that ousted president Hosni Mubarak's old guard are being removed from the cabinet. Essam Sharaf named Nabil Elaraby, a former judge with the Hague-based International Court of Justice, and Mansour el-Essawy for the crucial positions on Sunday, according to a post on the Facebook page of the prime minister's office. Sharaf also named Mohammed al-Guindy, a former attorney general, as minister of justice to replace Mamdouh Marie, who has been widely accused of corruption.
The army has shot in the air to disperse a 1,000-strong crowd attempting to storm the Ministry of Interior's state security building in Cairo, multiple eyewitnesses report. The General Prosecutor has ordered the building sealed pending investigation and the military does not want protesters to enter the building.
Several reports of plain-clothed police and gangs found attacking protesters in the streets. There is even reports of military police attacking and running after protesters.
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This is a huge achievement. The second biggest thing since toppling Mubarak. The SSI is a hated organization and if it's not removed or reformed, the revolution would not be successful. And with all these leaked documents, it could help in putting the old corrupt regime on trial.
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Here is a video showing the storming of the SSI HQ in Cairo. I will explain what's going on and what they are saying since it's in Arabic. But I recommend watching it anyways for the visual elements.
The beginning shows protesters outside of the SSI HQ trying to take down the entrance gates while shouting "Peaceful" and "God is Great". It then shows them go through the gates and walk towards the actual building while shouting "Down with the SSI" and one person is saying "This is a historic day. We are actually inside the SSI HQ". A man is shown with a sign he ripped off the front door I guess. As they protesters enter the building, they shout "nobody break anything". Then, it shows protesters entering every room and retrieving documents and computers. A woman is shown holding shredded documents that were found before the protesters could get a hold of them. Later, it shows protesters having some fun by taking pictures of themselves with signs, sitting at the conference tables, and acting like officials.
The last part of the clip shows a former detainee of the SSI finding an electric shocking device and explaining to people how he was tortured during his time in custody.
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