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    Post by FCB Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:50 am

    Since Egypt aren't playing, I forgot all about this and that it even started already.

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    Talk about group of death.
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    Post by Weather130 Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:52 am

    The first group of death games are tomorrow which would hopefully liven things up again.  Something that is really strange is the Asian Cup is also being played right now which probably diminishes interest in this. 

    Result so far:

    Equatorial Guinea 1-1 Congo 
    Burkina Faso 0-2 Gabon 
    Zambia 1-1 DR Congo 
    Tunisia 1-1 Cape Verde
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    Post by Weather130 Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:45 am

    I must ask for FCB's opinion ; Do you think the African Cup of Nations have too many teams in the tournament?  Some of these group stage games are tough to watch.
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    Post by FCB Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:39 am

    No, I think 16 teams is good enough. I haven't payed attention to the last 3 tournaments though, so I don't know about the quality of the tournament these days.

    Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Tunisia, Cameroon, Egypt, South Africa, Algeria, Senegal, Zambia, Mali, Burkina Faso, DR Congo are the good teams. That's 13 teams. Africa is known for its surprise results and teams, so adding a 3-4 teams to make up a 16-team tournament is not a bad idea.
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    Post by Weather130 Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:21 pm

    Perhaps the tournament is good but the bad teams like Cape Verde are shockingly bad I think one time they gave up a goal because everyone except the keeper was standing around.  I guess the defenses have been good with 1.86 goals per game average and no player has scored more than one goal so far.
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    Post by Weather130 Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:25 pm

    Oh this could be good...  after two games played in group D every stat that is used to rank the teams for the standings is tied if somehow this stayed the same after all three games would be entertaining to see the least.  Right now all four teams are 0-2-0 2 GF 2 GA 0
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    Post by FCB Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:23 pm

    All the big teams have suffered upsets in this tournament.

    That would be fun to see the final results in Group D end in 1-1 scores. Then all 4 teams would enter a drawing of lots.
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    Post by Weather130 Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:35 am

    Congo and DR Congo will play each other in the next round this should be great!  Laughing
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    Post by Weather130 Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:30 am

    Did they have a drawing of lots for 2nd place?
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    Post by FCB Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:55 am

    They will
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    Post by FCB Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:57 am

    10 out of 24 matches in this tournament ended in 1-1.
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    Post by Weather130 Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:31 pm

    Afcon 2015: Mali and Guinea managers criticise drawing of lots

    The Mali and Guinea managers insist the drawing of lots should not be how their Africa Cup of Nations fate is decided.

    A draw on Thursday afternoon will decide which side reaches the quarter-finals after they finished joint second with identical records in Group D.

    "We have to solve the problems of qualification without a drawing of lots," said Mali boss Henri Kasperczak.

    Guinea coach Michel Dussuyer said: "Mali do not deserve to be eliminated in this way, just as we do not."

    The Frenchman added: "Mali didn't lose a game - they played very well in the tournament. I would be disappointed, but it's hard for any team. No-one deserves to be eliminated."

    Guinea winger Ibrahima Traore echoed his manager's thoughts after the two sides drew 1-1 in their final group match.

    "It's not fair for both teams - I don't make the rules but we could do it on penalty kicks or extra time," he said.

    "The team who deserve to win would do it on the pitch. Not like Thursday.

    "We and Mali will be really anxious because we don't know if we go home or stay and it's not up to us. It'll be really difficult to sleep - it's not a good situation."

    Lots were originally scheduled to be drawn, if required, at the post-match news conferences but it was announced during the first half that the draw had been moved to Thursday.

    The first such drawing of lots in the tournament since 1988, will now take place at a hotel in Malabo at 15:00 GMT, with the successful team playing their quarter-final against Ghana on Sunday afternoon.

    Mali's Kasperczak added: "You have to respect the rules, we have no choice. We are going to be nervous, Guinea also.

    "We must find a more sporting way, fairer. This does not correspond to a sporting spirit."
    I found this gem from the BBC and none of this is all that surprising, I see this was used in 1988 so it not all that strange I suppose.  I thought that if a drawing of lots was needed it would have been completed.  I guess they want a lot of media coverage for this.
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    Post by FCB Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:36 pm

    Yeah, I don't know why they have to wait for the next day to do it. The team should know as soon as possible to prepare for the next round.

    But I see the teams' point. Drawing of lots is just pure chance and not really fair for the losing team. They should have played extra time or a penalty shootout after the game since they knew it would end like this at 1-1.
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    Post by Glen Miller Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:43 pm

    Even a quick game of crossbar challenge would be a fairer way of determining the winner.
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    Post by Weather130 Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:09 pm

    I guess they have this format set in stone and done this way if the tied teams were not playing each other on the last match day.  What would you do if all four teams would have been tied?

    What I would do is draw lots, but for a different purpose where the nations would be paired up for two penalty shoot outs and the two winners would qualify.  All you do that the winners would have another shoot out to determine first and second place.
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    Post by FCB Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:23 pm

    Yes, I understand for the rules being set in place since the beginning. But they should adjust it for this specific situation. The two teams in question were playing each other in the last round of the group stage.
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    Post by Weather130 Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:20 am

    For those who are interested Guinea won the drawing of lots.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:40 am

    Should have just had straight shootouts between the teams in the event of a draw like they do in the Euros.
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    Post by Glen Miller Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:57 am

    I would hesitate to say that was a good save, that was just a horrendous miss from the Algerian player (I didn't see the name).  Punished only minutes later by Bony the Bosman.
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    Post by FCB Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:02 am

    Congrats, Ivory Coast.
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    Post by Scuba Steve Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:05 am

    Up 2-0 in penalties and you fucked it.

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